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A330 In Mexicana Video

Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:04 pm

Last weekend I had the chance of "finally" sample MX's awarded business class long haul service on MX's sole B767 routing MEX-EZE. (Trip report later in the correponding section).

While watching the newly produced security briefing video in several other MX's flights, I always paid attention to the fact that the plane showed always was the actual type I was flying. That is why I could not help to notice that in the case of this flight the plane showed was not a B767 but an A330. (sleek widebody, two engines, winglets), and as we all know, Mexicana does not have (still) any 330.

Any thoughts, or should I say ....hopes?

Regards.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:51 pm

Let's hope that's because they are seriously thinking about getting A330's in a near future to replace the B 767, and didn't want to make a video with a plane they wouldn't use too long, but using the "definitive" one.

I really hope this could be true... it would sound logical to me, they have a complete Airbus fleet (except for the B767).
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting BA0242 (Reply 1):
Let's hope that's because they are seriously thinking about getting A330's

Yes, I think they are going to move towards the A330 for sure.

To me, the safety video is conveying this message perfectly well !

BA0242, welcome to the a.net forums... Looking forward to learning from what you have to say about aviation... the craze we all suffer from here !!!

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:41 am

Wellcome BA0242 to the forums.

Quoting BA0242 (Reply 1):
they have a complete Airbus fleet (except for the B767).

And the 757 but it´ll be replaced also (hopefully for the A321, but w&b restrictions keep that aircraft away from MX fleet; at least for now).

Quoting XA744 (Reply 2):
To me, the safety video is conveying this message perfectly well !

It´s a good way to start showing the passengers or getting them used to the new aircraft.....

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:58 am

I really hope MX does not get rid of the 757, first of all its a much better plane suited for Hot and High situations, and they in my view are one of the best looking planes.

now back on topic, a fleet of 4 A330, would be great for high density routes and long range, but A340 left by Air Canada would be even better for the "orient" routes that have been floating around in rumors....anyway I hope MX gets wide aisles and return to "azteca de Oro" paint Scheme...!!

Keeping fingers crossed...

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 4):
I really hope MX does not get rid of the 757, first of all its a much better plane suited for Hot and High situations, and they in my view are one of the best looking planes.

Indeed it´s a great performer, but it´s getting to expensive to maintain, now is only used on really high density routes or with too much weight to take.

Quoting Theredbaron (Reply 4):
anyway I hope MX gets wide aisles and return to "azteca de Oro" paint Scheme...!!

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:43 am

So, how many 757's does MX currently operate? They fly one daily MEX-JFK-MEX, one daily MEX-CCS-MEX, and I am sure they fly a lot to LAX and ORD from MEX and, perhaps, from other Mexican cities, right?

I took the 757 in February in flight MX0001 JFK-MEX and it still had 20 business class seats (and the business cabin was 100% full, whereas the coach cabin was not). Is MX still thinking of reducing the number of business seats?
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:09 am

Thanks for your welcome messages, guys!!

Sorry, I indeed had completely forgotten MX's Boeing 757s.

Quoting N405MX (Reply 3):
And the 757 but it´ll be replaced also (hopefully for the A321

That would be excellent, the A321 is a great bird! Futhermore, I definetly think it would be much less expensive to operate for MX than the 757s.
Don't you think?
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:19 am

In my opinion, the thing with the A321 is that it only has a chance to be ordered by MX if MX decides to build a mini-hub at CUN. With a few A321's based out of CUN, MX would be able to serve leisure passengers from MEX and the U.S. East Coast traveling to Cancún and the Mayan Riviera quite effectively.
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:44 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
So, how many 757's does MX currently operate? They fly one daily MEX-JFK-MEX, one daily MEX-CCS-MEX, and I am sure they fly a lot to LAX and ORD from MEX and, perhaps, from other Mexican cities, right?

They tend to fly the most busy of the several daily flights on the following routes: GDL-SJC, GDL-LAX, MEX-LAX.

I just don't think there's any other type of bird right now that fills the need so well for Mexicana.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting N405MX (Reply 3):
And the 757 but it´ll be replaced also (hopefully for the A321, but w&b restrictions keep that aircraft away from MX fleet; at least for now).

What do you mean with "w&b" ? Maybe hot&high/weight ??? MX already has the A320, right ? Several A32S pilots here say the A321 has a better airfield performance than the A320, so this shouldn´t be a problem.
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
So, how many 757's does MX currently operate? They fly one daily MEX-JFK-MEX, one daily MEX-CCS-MEX, and I am sure they fly a lot to LAX and ORD from MEX and, perhaps, from other Mexican cities, right?

My booking for sunday has the B757 as the aircraft for my roundtrip MEX-BOG-MEX. Since the aircraft spends the night in BOG, one is used exclusively for this route.
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:22 am

Well I hope we do see those A330s in MX fleet very soon. It would be nice to see MX have a fleet of four A330s and two A340s.  spin 

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
how many 757's does MX currently operate? They fly one daily MEX-JFK-MEX, one daily MEX-CCS-MEX, and I am sure they fly a lot to LAX and ORD from MEX and, perhaps, from other Mexican cities, right?

Mexicana doesn't send the 757s to ORD anymore.  frown  Its all airbus, A319s and A320s to MEX.
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:26 am

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 12):
Mexicana doesn't send the 757s to ORD anymore. Its all airbus, A319s and A320s to MEX.

What would you say are the most popular routes from ORD?

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:26 am

Many years ago I walked into a Swissair office in Zurich and noticed a poster of an A320 in SR colours. Since no announcement had then been made about an MD-80 replacement it seemed, er, premature but very soon it indeed came to pass. Fingers crossed for Mexicana!
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:32 am

Quoting Rojo (Reply 11):
My booking for sunday has the B757 as the aircraft for my roundtrip MEX-BOG-MEX.

Interesting. I understand, though, that the 757 to BOG is the exception rather than the rule, as this route is mainly flown with A319's. I guess there is significant demand to BOG and that AR and its really low fares has not made a dent on MX's loads.

So, I ask again, how many 757's does MX have?
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:49 am

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:55 am

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 13):
What would you say are the most popular routes from ORD?

Good question, MEX and GDL would be the most popular. MX has 4X daily ORD-MEX, 2x daily ORD-GDL. The service to MEX is flown by A319/A320. Flights to GDL have the A320. But the increase in flights between ORD-MEX has to do with AA codeshare.

I can probably stick MLM as a popular route since it sees A320 service some days. MTY sees daily A320 service. The only A318 flight being operated at the moment is ORD-ZCL. Lately MX has been flying ORD-BJX, I dont know if this is a seasonal destination.
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:39 pm

Vámonos por partes:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 8):
In my opinion, the thing with the A321 is that it only has a chance to be ordered by MX if MX decides to build a mini-hub at CUN.

Indeed, the idea (still) is to make hubs at GDL and CUN, where the aircraft can operate without any problem.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
So, how many 757's does MX currently operate?

If I remember right are 5, N765MX,N763MX,N762MX, N380RM and XA-TRA

Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
What do you mean with "w&b" ? Maybe hot&high/weight ??? MX already has the A320, right ? Several A32S pilots here say the A321 has a better airfield performance than the A320, so this shouldn´t be a problem.

Indeed it has a great performance at sea level but at MEX the things are really different (even the 757/767 get´s a hell of restriction), the A321 can suit really well some MX needs, but departing MEX it´s really hard for it, even for the -200.

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 17):
I can probably stick MLM as a popular route since it sees A320 service some days. MTY sees daily A320 service. The only A318 flight being operated at the moment is ORD-ZCL. Lately MX has been flying ORD-BJX, I dont know if this is a seasonal destination.

Routes operated in 757:
MEX-JFK/CCS/SJO/BOG and HAV.
ORD is served mainly with A320´s, but MX806/807 MEX-ZCL-ORD-ZCL-MEX it´s operated in A318 (lifting 100pax and 3.5tons of bags).
MTY we are used to the A318, only fridays we see the A319 and the A320 as the loads got really high.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:22 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 15):
Interesting. I understand, though, that the 757 to BOG is the exception rather than the rule, as this route is mainly flown with A319's. I guess there is significant demand to BOG and that AR and its really low fares has not made a dent on MX's loads.

When I booked my flight, I originally did so on AR, since I wanted to fly the A310 to BOG. Unfortunately my travel agency got the strike info and cancelled my AR flight and rebooked me on MX. The price went up from $500 to $800 tax included. My travel agent told me that I am the only crazy employee trying to book AR, they only send people on MX and AV...
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:29 am

Further comments.....

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
I took the 757 in February in flight MX0001 JFK-MEX and it still had 20 business class seats (and the business cabin was 100% full, whereas the coach cabin was not).

As some of us have stated before, it is becoming a regular practice for MX to indiscrimnitaley upgrade just to fill up the front cabin. Even on my MEX-EZE flight where a restricted C fare is up to $1800 usd one way, they were bringing people from coach even when they were already seated and doors closed, just to fill 3 empty seats. I did not mind it (because I had paid the lowest mex-e-saver fare of just US$620 r/t and got upgraded because of my MEX *I status  Smile  Smile  Smile ), but you should've seen the face and other languaje expressions of this guy seated next to me.......

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6):
Is MX still thinking of reducing the number of business seats?

I had not been on a MX B757 since 2002, and back then, there were only 12 seats in C. Great legroom. I was surprised when they cramped 8 more seats.

BTW, I really hope that in case of MXA330 becomes a sweet reality, they consider so keep the legroom they have onboard de B767, both in Y and C. And let me tell you, those "clase ejecutiva" seats may be old and lacking of high tech gizmos, but they are really comfortable and recline to a full 180. And there is still space to walk through without waking up your seatmate.

Quoting PM (Reply 14):
Many years ago I walked into a Swissair office in Zurich and noticed a poster of an A320 in SR colours. Since no announcement had then been made about an MD-80 replacement it seemed, er, premature but very soon it indeed came to pass. Fingers crossed for Mexicana!

It would be very nice if something like this happened regarding all coments and rumours we write here. An MX A380 in the Azteca de Oro Livery? anyone?
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting Orbis (Reply 20):
As some of us have stated before, it is becoming a regular practice for MX to indiscrimnitaley upgrade just to fill up the front cabin.

Not anymore, as there is a new order not to fill Ejecutiva, as there was a missunderstanding of the first order to fill up ejecutiva, now the upgrades are only to elegible passengers, also you can buy your upgrade in the airport at check in for $25USD for national flights ($500 MEX-EZE) one way trip, so you´ll see again empty ejecutiva seats.

Quoting Orbis (Reply 20):
An MX A380 in the Azteca de Oro Livery? anyone?

Count me there  biggrin 

As maybe we can see first an A350 in MX Aztec livery.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:30 am

Do any of you guys think think that if MX starts flying Asia, Europe anytime will create a first class besides its business class?

that would be cool to europe
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:53 am

I am sure MX would be able to provide a truly outstanding First Class service, but unfortunately First Class is a dying animal. I guess if MX gets widebody Airbuses for transoceanic flights, they will be configured with quite large Business Class cabins that will, in practice, be a hybrid between F and C.
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:25 am

If you pay attention on the safety cards of MXA airbuses the plane is a B737!!! instead of a real Airbus, so are you going to think that MXA is nearly to buy B737 NGs? please. The guys that made the animated safety demo don't know anything about airliners, they just put a twin engine widebody with eight doors and that's all, as well as the MXA flight safety department, they don't care if it's a real B767 or A330,A300,A310, etc. The only goal on this video is a safety demonstration, not to show to the passengers the future intentions of the airline.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting N405MX (Reply 18):
Indeed it has a great performance at sea level but at MEX the things are really different (even the 757/767 get´s a hell of restriction), the A321 can suit really well some MX needs, but departing MEX it´s really hard for it, even for the -200.

But following this logic, A320s would also be heavily restricted ? Correct me if I´m wrong, but if aircraft X performs better than aircraft Y at sea level, aircraft X will also perform better in hot&high conditions than aircraft Y (excluding comparisons of aircraft with different # of engines).
Exceptions confirm the rule.
 
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:09 pm

Quoting A342 (Reply 25):
But following this logic, A320s would also be heavily restricted ? Correct me if I´m wrong, but if aircraft X performs better than aircraft Y at sea level, aircraft X will also perform better in hot&high conditions than aircraft Y (excluding comparisons of aircraft with different # of engines).

Not at all, as the A321 is heavier than the A320, also because it´s wing is the same for the bigger aircraft, the lift Cx is reduced as you have more to lift; using your example, you have an X wing on Y plane, but if you have the same X wing on Z plane, the performance will change back to physics this will be
FpBp = FrBr where Fp is the force produced by the wing to lift Fr, in this case the aircraft. It´s all based on Archimedes principle.

Quoting Luis777 (Reply 24):
If you pay attention on the safety cards of MXA airbuses the plane is a B737!!! instead of a real Airbus,

IF you look closer you´ll see that the wings end on wingtip fences, not blended winglets.

Quoting Luis777 (Reply 24):
The only goal on this video is a safety demonstration, not to show to the passengers the future intentions of the airline.

Why not.....

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[Edited 2006-03-12 07:12:28]
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting N405MX (Reply 26):

This is not what I meant. In my reply 10 I said pilots say generally the A321 has a better performance than the A320. I wondered why this shouldn´t also apply to MEX.

Also, the A321 has double-slotted flaps and much more powerful engines. also see this topic:
A321 Range: UK-Egypt Possible? (by Horus Feb 8 2006 in Tech Ops)
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting Luis777 (Reply 24):
If you pay attention on the safety cards of MXA airbuses the plane is a B737!!! instead of a real Airbus,

I have here in my hands a bunch of safety cards of every type flown by MX and others. Airbuses cards depict indeed Airbuses drawings......

If you look closer in the video, the 318 and 319 have only 1 emergency exit over the wings, whereas the 320 has 2, the 318 being shorter and all with the caracteristic wingtip. The a330 (for the B767) shows a plane with two aisles and winglets. So I think that contrary to the general aproach the publicist give the aviation industry, there was actually some "research" by the media guys who made the videos.

I have not seen the video for the B757, but I would really like to see a B757 with wingtips  Wink.........

OTOH, an all white unmarked B767 has been parking at the ramp beside the MX maintenaince base at MEX. I asked a MX f.a. yesterday and he told me that it "might" be a new plane for MX waiting to be checked and repainted. But since I have not read anything about it neither here or at the APM webpage, I asume this guy may be missinformed.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 23):
I am sure MX would be able to provide a truly outstanding First Class service, but unfortunately First Class is a dying animal. I guess if MX gets widebody Airbuses for transoceanic flights, they will be configured with quite large Business Class cabins that will, in practice, be a hybrid between F and C.

I agree. However, there seems to be a market niche for some airlines devoted to keep the first class. As I learned recently, LH's F passengers increased in 2005. If you ever have the chance to fly LH's MEX-FRA-MEX in F you will see the cabin almost full. (well, the whole plane is usually full).

Now, regarding the Mexican high yield passenger, and taking in to account that the New Mexican and Latinamerican Rich people is "status, cliched and I-want-to-have-more driven", I can not help but to think that if MX or AM ever have a "real" first class, it could be a success.
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting Orbis (Reply 28):
OTOH, an all white unmarked B767 has been parking at the ramp beside the MX maintenaince base at MEX.

It belongs to Air Atlanta Icelandic and came here only for mx. Last year MX signed a mx agreement with Air Atlanta. This is the 4th aircraft from Air Atlanta visiting MEX. We better not lost our patience! MX will have to decide sometime later this year it's B767 replacement and expansion. I highly doubt they will renew MXB's lease.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting Orbis (Reply 28):
I have here in my hands a bunch of safety cards of every type flown by MX and others.

"Please do not remove from aircraft" sounds familiar to you? I am kidding, of course.

Quoting Orbis (Reply 28):
taking in to account that the New Mexican and Latinamerican Rich people is "status, cliched and I-want-to-have-more driven", I can not help but to think that if MX or AM ever have a "real" first class, it could be a success.

Well, well, you sounded a bit like this Thai guy who lives in Guadalajara and who seemed to have a problem with the girl using her cellphone and carrying a Louis Vuitton bag in the bus that took them to the airplane. Anyway, I am not sure if I agree with you. Whereas LA, RG and JJ may have good results with their first class service, I think it is a smarter idea for AM and MX to offer only an above-average business class... I still don't see the market for first-class service from Mexico and the reason is that most of the international flights from Mexico are to the U.S., and the longest flight is not more than 5 hours, so first class service is not necessary. True long-haul (EZE, GRU, SCL, MAD and CDG) return tickets are already quite expensive in coach and in business, and I don't think the loads of the first class cabin (considering paying passengers only, not upgrades or reward tickets) would be sufficient to justify the service.

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 29):
I highly doubt they will renew MXB's lease.

This is a plane that belongs to SK. SK is, unless I am wrong, no longer a 767 operator. Maybe SK is not in a hurry to get it back and could agree to extend the lease a few months if MX is unable to get its A332's soon. What do you think?
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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:38 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 30):
"Please do not remove from aircraft" sounds familiar to you? I am kidding, of course.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:49 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 30):
What do you think?

Hopefully.....

Quoting A342 (Reply 27):
Also, the A321 has double-slotted flaps and much more powerful engines. also see this topic:

But like i said before; is the same wing, with the flaps it only helps for take off and landing, also the engines for the more weight of the aircraft, about handling, all A320 family handles the same, except for the A318 it has a slightly variance.

Quoting A342 (Reply 27):
I wondered why this shouldn´t also apply to MEX.

Because hot & high conditions, it really kills the performance of every aircraft, and for example, for a one engine go around, your safety margin it´s almost zero.

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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 30):
"Please do not remove from aircraft" sounds familiar to you? I am kidding, of course.

Thanks to this, yesterday I got the wrong safety card for the aircraft I was flying. I flew XA-TRA, a B757 with 4 emergency exits over the wings and got the card for the other B757's on MX's fleet. In the seat next to me there was a safety card exclusively for XA-TRA...

Additionally, the safety video shown during the flight was made for all B757 in MX's fleet except XA-TRA, therefore, I don't think that MX will get rid of XA-TRA just because the safety video showed a different B757!!

For those who haven't seen the difference in MX's B757 fleet:


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RE: A330 In Mexicana Video

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:27 pm

Quoting Rojo (Reply 33):
Thanks to this, yesterday I got the wrong safety card for the aircraft I was flying. I flew XA-TRA, a B757 with 4 emergency exits over the wings and got the card for the other B757's on MX's fleet. In the seat next to me there was a safety card exclusively for XA-TRA...

TRA was exclusively for charter flights with 101LF, but LF is already gone, and TRA was changed the interior for 20-156 passengers, but because it´s diferent exit configuration MX had to do different safety cards, also the W&B for this aircraft is a little bit different.

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