simairlinenet
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Pan Am Interchange Questions

Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:01 pm

I'm interested in the interchange flights Pan Am had with domestic carriers over the years. I've been able to find the following from my timetables:

Braniff: Houston-Dallas-Chicago-London-Frankfurt (707)
Delta: New Orleans-Atlanta-Washington-London-Frankfurt (DC-8)
Northwest Orient: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Detroit-London (707)

Some unusual questions:
-The domestic carriers' aircraft did fly on to Europe, but what about vice versa?
-What specific models were used? Did Delta use the -33s they bought from Pan Am?
-Did Northwest Orient participate in it to Europe, or was that just Braniff and Delta? Route maps from Airchive seem to indicate this to be the case.

Thanks in advance!
 
A999
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RE: Pan Am Interchange Questions

Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:41 pm

The 7 ex-PanAm DC-8-33s were indeed deployed on the DL/PA interchange to Europe (and on selected long-haul domestic routes as well). At that time you could see the Delta Widget at LHR! The others I have no info about, but as the domestic carriers flew to Europe they also had to return, didn`t they?
 
srbmod
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RE: Pan Am Interchange Questions

Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
Delta: New Orleans-Atlanta-Washington-London-Frankfurt (DC-8)

The ATL-IAD-LHR route during the mid-70s was done using the 747:


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Quoting Simairlinenet (Thread starter):
Did Delta use the -33s they bought from Pan Am?

The 747's DL used were 747-132s, which they had ordered themselves. I believe they had a total of five. Pan Am's Boeing code was -21.
 
xaphan
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RE: Pan Am Interchange Questions

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:51 am

I made several trips on DL DC 8-33s on domestic runs from MIA-SFO nonstop. That was a long flight, but certainly not beyond the capabilities of the DC 8-51.
 
BostonBeau
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RE: Pan Am Interchange Questions

Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:02 am

There were also interchanges at Boston between Pan Am, Delta, and Northwest. More often than not, it was a Northwest B707 that operated PanAm's Boston-London flight in the Winter, and a Delta DC-8 between Boston and Paris. I believe the Northwest flight was operated MSP-DTW-BOS-LHR and the Delta flight ATL-IAD-BOS-Paris (not sure whether ORY or CDG at that point)

Added: I think the actual interchanges may have taken place at DTW and IAD since neither Delta nor Northwest operated on their own to BOS at that time.

[Edited 2006-03-12 17:04:20]
 
lhrmaccoll
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RE: Pan Am Interchange Questions

Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:13 am

Quoting A999 (Reply 1):
At that time you could see the Delta Widget at LHR!

Good times. Can't wait for it to happen again
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