TheFlyGuy2
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TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:06 am

Hi,

Does anyone have any memories of TWA and their service into ORD over the years. I know that they used ORD as a focus city throughout the seventies and even into the mid or late 80's (though much smaller).

Thanks,

Andy
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:11 am

I flew into ORD many times from MCI to connect to North Central (later
Republic). The last time I flew TWA to or from ORD was 1980.
The very first time I flew by myself on my dad's TWA pass (I was
13) was on that same trip.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:30 am

During the mid 1980s, my first visit to ORD was when I flew on TWA from STL to CMH with a stop in ORD. Upon arriving in ORD, I told myself this: "I see few TWA planes here, but, there are more TWA planes in STL." I seem to recall spotting TWA L-1011 and 747 during my stopover in ORD. I was impressed by TWA's service into ORD.
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:36 am

TWA ruled on the G except for G1 which was Trans/Air Canada.
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:45 am

I never flew TWA into ORD (never been there), but I do remember at the end it was 717's and MD-80's all day from STL and JFK (dropped by 1999), in the Icahn years it was pretty much anything under the sun in the red stripes up until the slaughter of the LHR routes. I have a photo of TWA's first 747 in the then-new (1974) twin stripe scheme, to the side of the TWA hangar with an L1011 inside.
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:50 am

In the 70's they served at one point:

SFO, LAX, OAK, DEN, LAS, PHX, TUS, ABQ, MCI, ICT, BOS, BDL, LGA, JFK, EWR, CMH, DAY, PIT, PHL, DCA, BAL, MDT, LHR, CDG. They had hourly service to LGA, in competition with AA (UA was third in the market then with less frequent service), the LHR flight was daily on a 747, CDG operated on and off, sometimes with a 747, sometimes with a 707. L10's were on routes to LAS, LAX, PHX, ABQ, SFO, DEN, LGA, PIT, PHL, BOS. The only gate on G they didn't operate from was G1, which was AC's lone gate for flights to YYZ, YUL and YWG.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting Aeroman62 (Reply 5):
. L10's were on routes to LAS, LAX, PHX, ABQ, SFO, DEN, LGA, PIT, PHL, BOS.

ORD-ABQ and ORD-PIT/PHL in an L1011? DAYUM!
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:53 am

Spooky memory for me was STL to ORD on a TW 747. It turned out to be the Flt. 800 aircraft. I did not realize this until after the crash when I was going through some old pictures and there was the pix of me at ORD and you could see the registration in the backround on the plane.

I loved TWA. I miss it today.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:31 am

My first, and only 707 flights were r/t MCI to PHL outbound through ORD and return through STL in February 1979 on TWA as a junior high school freshman. Even then, you had a sense of history as you stepped into those planes.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:37 am

My first trip to Europe in 92 started on a TWA L1011 to JFK from ORD. We had a connection on an IB DC10 to BCN. The weather was bad and we diverted to PHL for fuel. On our first approach to PHL an AA MD80 was on the runway and we did a last minute go around. We were too close to the runway and we actually did a touch and go. What a trip! So began my love affair with the L1011. We arrived 3 hours late giving us 1 hour before boarding for the IB trip. Was quite a trip. We returned from MAD a TWA 747 through JFK. At JFK I remember Deplaning through the right doors instead of the left. Was very cool. We then connected to the TWA L1011 back to ORD.

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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:49 am

I flew JFK-ORD-MCI in 1984, on a B727. On the return flight, it was TWA 814, an L1011, operating MCI-ORD-JFK-AMS. We were parked next to a TWA 747-100 going to LHR.

Very cool.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:19 am

Quoting Aeroman62 (Reply 5):
In the 70's they served at one point:

SFO, LAX, OAK, DEN, LAS, PHX, TUS, ABQ, MCI, ICT, BOS, BDL, LGA, JFK, EWR, CMH, DAY, PIT, PHL, DCA, BAL, MDT, LHR, CDG. They had hourly service to LGA, in competition with AA (UA was third in the market then with less frequent service), the LHR flight was daily on a 747, CDG operated on and off, sometimes with a 747, sometimes with a 707. L10's were on routes to LAS, LAX, PHX, ABQ, SFO, DEN, LGA, PIT, PHL, BOS. The only gate on G they didn't operate from was G1, which was AC's lone gate for flights to YYZ, YUL and YWG.

In the late 70's they peaked at about 110 flights per day at ORD, nearly as large as American's spot as #2 at ORD behind United.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:32 pm

TWA's selling point in the 70s on ORD-LGA was that its flights left 45 minutes after the hour, so that its planes didn't get caught in the hourly rush at either airport.

It was a good marketing scheme, since I was once on an AA 9:00am departure out of ORD for SLC and happened to look at the window. There were 2 other 727s, a DC-10, and a 707 all pushing back simultaneously.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:24 pm

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 12):
TWA's selling point in the 70s on ORD-LGA was that its flights left 45 minutes after the hour, so that its planes didn't get caught in the hourly rush at either airport.

What was it...15 BTRS coaast to coast?
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:20 pm

The ORD-NYC routing was very popular at ORD. There was a flight to a NYC area airport every 15 minutes. It went something like this, UA left on the hour, TW left at 15 past the hour, AA left at 30 minutes past the hour and I forgot who left at 45 past the hour.
And also they dispatched the NYC flights from gates close into the terminal to make them easier to get to.
And yes, there always seemed to be an AC DC-9 sitting at G-1. As soon as one departed another one would arrive.
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:40 pm

I don't know much of TWA's history at ORD. But I do know that CO took over their last 3 gates at terminal E after they merged with AA.
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RE: TWA In ORD

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:50 pm

I remember taking ORD-LHR several times in the late 70's, early 80's. Flts. 730/731 IIRC. Back then, there were only two Chicago-London flights: One on TWA the other on BA.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:01 am

My dad and uncle worked for OZ, and my uncle stayed on when they got bought by TW, working at ORD and then HOU.
I suppose my coolest TW memories are flying STL-DAY-EWR-MUC on the same plane, and STL having int'l service. Sorry, not very ORD-related.
Wasn't there a fire onboard an L-1011 at ORD, which was either a TZ aircraft with a TW crew, or vice-versa? I seem to remember hearing that the crew did an excellent job getting the pax off.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:18 am

My first ever flight was on a TWA 72S from ORD to EWR, so I definitely have a special place in my heart for TWA and their old ORD ops. Unfortunately, it was also the only time that I ever flew on TWA.  Sad
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:07 am

TWA had an outstanding presence at ORD thru the 70's and into the early 80's before the slow drawdown. One little item of note was that after deregulation was passed one of TWA's marketing ideas was an all coach, low price flights to LAX on 707's. By packing 'em in it maybe made it break-even but kept TWA in the ORD-LAX market. IIRC there were 2 707's assigned to this duty, thus 2 round trips daily. I also flew on the ORD-LGA hourly service. I thought it was on the half hour from ORD as AA & UA did the hourly slots..but that was 26-30 yrs ago!!

Also remember 707's from BOS as well as 707/727/1011's to PHX.

Great memories!
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 16):
I remember taking ORD-LHR several times in the late 70's, early 80's. Flts. 730/731 IIRC. Back then, there were only two Chicago-London flights: One on TWA the other on BA.

TW's ORD-LHR flights were 770 and 771 (the return from LHR). They
were on 747 for a long time and then went to a 1011. I think
during the first Gulf War they might have even been on a 767 until
Icahn sold the routes to American.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:39 am

I went to my cousin's graduation in Evanston (IL) north of Chicago in 1987, and when I made my reservations I saw that there was an L-1011 flight that would arrive at around the time my other relatives were arriving.

There were 50 on the flight - the gate agent just boarded us without regard to row numbers or anything. The flight was really quick as it felt like the pilot flew at full power all the way.

The flight was continuing on out of the states (perhaps Rome) and I thought to myself that it was ironic that STL was considered the hub, but many of the international flights went out of ORD. I thought it was INSULTING. But back then I had no way of seeing the day when AA took over TW and then slashed most mainline service - NOW THAT'S INSULTING Silly  Yeah sure

OTOH, it was nice to be on something other than a 727; we were stuck on the taxiway for an hour waiting in the takeoff queue next to 9R/27L with the sun beaming down on the wing and right into my window. That's what I wound up fliying home on and was a little perturbed when I realized there was an L-1011 flight going back to STL  bomb 

I remember TW having quite a few gates on the G Concourse, but I don't remember if baggage claim was in Terminal 2 or 3 (I thought it was 3 since my relatives arrived on CO at T2). If so, that was really ironic considering how TW was absorbed into AA years later!

what I want to know is if TW ever had its gates on another concourse - like E/F or did they ever share gates on H/K? I remember that AA wasn't the only airline on H/K back in the day. DL comes to mind in the days before the the L Concourse.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting Chase (Reply 17):
Wasn't there a fire onboard an L-1011 at ORD, which was either a TZ aircraft with a TW crew, or vice-versa? I seem to remember hearing that the crew did an excellent job getting the pax off.

The only major TZ fire at ORD was on a DC-10-40 that they leased from NW. That fire is one of the reasons that TZ droped the 10 for the Tristar.


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RE: TWA In ORD

Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:32 am

Did TWA ever fly any international routes from ORD and when?
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:16 am

If memory serves, TWA check in area was at the right end of Terminal 3, with a huge LED display of TWA arrivals and departures Service between ORD and BOS was usually with a 707,727, or a L1011!
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting TheFlyGuy2 (Reply 23):
Did TWA ever fly any international routes from ORD and when?

Whereas no international flights to/from ORD are shown in TWA's July 3, 1970 timetable, by Dec. 1, 1975 TWA had begun ORD-LHR-ORD 747 service as flights 770/771, operating "Ex Tu We" eastbound and "Ex We Th" westbound. Frequency was later increased to 6x weekly and then daily (may have been seasonal adjustments). Checking later timetables from 1981, '82, '84, '86, and '89, LHR was TWA's only international destinations served non-stop from ORD. TWA's ORD-LHR-ORD route was taken over by AA in 1991 after TWA sold their LHR routes to AA.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 22):
The only major TZ fire at ORD was on a DC-10-40 that they leased from NW. That fire is one of the reasons that TZ droped the 10 for the Tristar.

I was on a flight to michigan just after this fire and we taxied past this plane just before take off, it scared the living sh_t out of me, I was only 14.
 
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RE: TWA In ORD

Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:08 am

One of my first jobs was as a ticket agent for TWA at ORD (and also at MDW due to a furlough) in the mid-90's. The folks I worked with had a lot of seniority and were always talking about the good old days when they had lots of flights. From what I recall, there were records of international service to both LHR & CDG from ORD. At one point, TWA had the entire G concourse. By the time I was there, we were subleasing one-two gates from AA. Those were some of the greatest people I have yet to work with - a whole lot of spunk.

I eventually went to work for the Evil Empire known as AA (before the merger) and the old TWA Ambassador Club had turned into a neglected storage/training/conference room. Very sad.

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RE: TWA In ORD

Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:31 am

Quoting TheFlyGuy2 (Reply 23):
Did TWA ever fly any international routes from ORD and when?

During the summer of 1977, Homeric Tours in conjunction with TWA had charter flights operating from ORD, JFK and BOS to ATH and TLV.
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