mycrj17
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:08 pm

Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:44 am

I saw pic's of this airline and I just wanted to know where they flew to and did they have a hub in the US...And how many flight's did they have out of ORD..Plus did they have anything bigger then a 27 in there fleet....
Plus quite a lightning storm here at MDW today....
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
 
WesternA318
Posts: 4477
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:55 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter):
I saw pic's of this airline and I just wanted to know where they flew to and did they have a hub in the US...

The first Braniff was based at:
*Oklahoma CIty, OK
*Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX/Miami, FL

They had an extensive system throughout the US Latin and South America, Asia and Europe, in fact, it was the overexpansion from 1978 to 1981 that killed them off.

The second Braniff was also based at DFW, while the third was based out of MCI??

Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter):
Plus did they have anything bigger then a 27 in there fleet....

The flew (in the jet age):
* BAC 1-11
* BAC Aerospatiale Concorde (in coop with BA)
* Boeing 707
* Boeing 720B
* Boeing 727-100
* Boeing 727-200
* Boeing 747-100
* Boeing 747-200
* Boeing 747SP
* Douglas DC-8's of various types.
Check out my blog at fl310travel.blogspot.com!
 
AirCop
Posts: 5553
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:39 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:57 am

Braniff was very big in Dallas in the mid-70's. I believe they were #2rnbehind Delta and ahead of American. They had extensive flights to the midwest and the east. Aside from Seattle/Portland they didn't fly to California from Dallas until after 1978. It was all 727'srnfor domestic service. Flying colors, all the planes were painted inrndifferent colors. International hub to South America at Miami, laterrnwent to Eastern, then to American. Also some South American flights tornLima from LAX with a tag on to SFO. International service to SouthrnAmerica was DC-8, Hawaii and London service was 747's. Expanded to quickly after 1978 and was gone by 1982.
 
mycrj17
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:08 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:57 am

Thank you.. Where do you people find all of this stuff at?
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
 
dfwmzuri
Posts: 219
Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:34 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:00 pm

I flew them one time to Quito, Ecuador in the early 1980's. IIRC the plane was a DC-8, and the route was Chicago, Miami, Panama, Ecuador.
 
thomasphoto60
Posts: 3716
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2000 1:04 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:15 pm

I come from a proud Braniff family and have many fond memories of flying this very cutting edge and innovative carrier during it's hey day from the 60s up until it's demise in the early 80s. Below is a link to most informative and through Braniff related web site on the net. Everything from A-Z that involved Braniff is there.

http://www.braniffpages.com/

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
They had an extensive system throughout the US Latin and South America, Asia and Europe, in fact, it was the overexpansion from 1978 to 1981 that killed them off.

Indeed bad management and over expansion into unfamiliar markets was 'part' the reason for their demise. However let's not skim over the fact that AA did a great deal to push them over the edge with the abuse of their SABRE reservation system.

Thomas
"Show me the Braniffs"
 
WesternA318
Posts: 4477
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:55 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 5):
However let's not skim over the fact that AA did a great deal to push them over the edge with the abuse of their SABRE reservation system.

As well as the time Bob Crandall called Tom Plaskett and outright ASKED him (while he was being recorded) to raise fares by 15% so AA could make more money. He was later brought to a grand jury about this I believe, although I'd have to dig up my old school reports from the attic, lol.
Check out my blog at fl310travel.blogspot.com!
 
EMBQA
Posts: 7798
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:52 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting Mycrj17 (Reply 3):
Where do you people find all of this stuff at?

A great little web site called Google.

Braniff I... 1927 to 1982, Started in OKC then moved to DFW
Braniff II... 1984 to 1989 with very close ties to Braniff I, DFW Based
Braniff III... 1991, MCI based

http://www.braniffpages.com/
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
 
WDBRR
Posts: 599
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:28 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:27 pm

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 5):
Indeed bad management and over expansion into unfamiliar markets was 'part' the reason for their demise. However let's not skim over the fact that AA did a great deal to push them over the edge with the abuse of their SABRE reservation system.

Lets just say that AA has always been a ruthless competitor.
we will wait and see what happens with the Wright Amendment
and SWA at DAL.
 
thomasphoto60
Posts: 3716
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2000 1:04 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 8):
Lets just say that AA has always been a ruthless competitor.

Thats the understatement of the year!

Thomas
"Show me the Braniffs"
 
ANCFlyer
Posts: 21391
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:51 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:50 pm

Excellent site. . . . I flew Braniff a lot when I was stationed in Texas . . . great airline. I liked the "Flying Colors" years.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
http://www.braniffpages.com/
FOR THOSE THAT FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW OR UNDERSTAND
 
OPNLguy
Posts: 11191
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 1999 11:29 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:46 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 6):
As well as the time Bob Crandall called Tom Plaskett and outright ASKED him (while he was being recorded) to raise fares by 15% so AA could make more money.

I believe you'll find that person Crandall called and had this conversation with wasn't Plaskett, but Howard Putnam, the then president of Braniff....
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
N1120A
Posts: 26468
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:40 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
Braniff I... 1927 to 1982, Started in OKC then moved to DFW

Actually, they moved from OKC to DAL. DFW came later.
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
 
WesternA318
Posts: 4477
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:55 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:57 pm

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 11):
I believe you'll find that person Crandall called and had this conversation with wasn't Plaskett, but Howard Putnam, the then president of Braniff....

My mistake, sorry bout that!
Check out my blog at fl310travel.blogspot.com!
 
PGV
Posts: 120
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:08 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:48 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
I liked the "Flying Colors" years.

Oh yeah...they had some wild designs and had quite a bit of money wrapped up in paint.

A good friend of mine, his mother was a Braniff F/A for 20 years. She was recently offered an insane amount of money for her Emilio Pucci uniforms that she had left over. Airlines were a lot different then...
"To hell with a Ferrari...give me a Super 70!"
 
sunking737
Posts: 1116
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:33 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:26 pm

When Braniff #1 shut down it opened the door to the formation of another airline, MSP based Sun Country Airlines. The founders of SY were all Braniff employees.

Many of those same people are still the driving force behind the carrier today.

SY hosted a Braniff reunion hanger party back in early Oct. 2005. It was great to see all the old uniforms and other items people brought in. A gentleman even wore his old pilots uniform, complete with his ID badge. He looked like he just finished his flight for the day.

SY even named one of their planes the "Spirit Of Braniff", to honor the company
Just an MSPAVGEEK
 
texan
Posts: 4061
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:23 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:02 am

Braniff used to have then Terminal 2W (now Terminal B) out at DFW almost all to themselves, if I remember right. As soon as deregulation hit, Braniff applied for nearly every open route they could think of. Since the routes were granted on a use it or lose it authority, they ended up flying some really low traffic routings and overexpanding very quickly. BUF, ROC, ALB all had nonstops to DFW at some point between 1978-1981.

The Flying Pumpkin was great, the 747 that flew between DAL/DFW and HNL. The Flying Colors of Braniff used to grace the skies down here, but not even pleas from the legendary Tom Landry could save them from themselves. I have a really old Braniff timetable sitting at home, I'll run down some highlights once I get back.

Texan
"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
 
tcxdegsy
Posts: 356
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:47 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:34 am

They were also the airline who used the marketing tagline "Fly Me" on all their commercials. Very controversial at the time, as it was very much 'sex sells', which was ahem, racy, well, for those days anyway!!
next flights: BA1441 0566 0581 1446 EDI-LHR-MXP-LHR-EDI
 
maury
Posts: 526
Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 6:27 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:01 am

"Fly me" was National Airlines.

Matt, you might check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braniff_Airways for a few things, too.

Braniff was an interesting carrier...all of the Lawrence's marketing hype, cool/hip/fab image stuff, and yet BN was still "the plane to Lubbock" for a lot of people.
 
jlp123
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 6:40 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:04 am

Actually the "Fly Me" champaign was used by National Airlines.

http://www.airchive.com/SITE%20PAGES/MEM-NATIONAL.html
 
jlp123
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 6:40 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:16 am

Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter):
I saw pic's of this airline and I just wanted to know where they flew to and did they have a hub in the US...And how many flight's did they have out of ORD

Here is the answer to your original question.

11/15/1979 Braniff ORD schedule

CLE 2x
DFW 10x
IAH 3x
MCI 5x

taken from http://www.geocities.com/departing1983/index.html

I have a timetables from 1976 & 1978 at home, they show additional nonstops to ICT, OKC, and TUL, with no CLE service. I'll try to post that latter.

[Edited 2006-03-13 21:17:14]
 
ord
Posts: 1356
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 1999 10:34 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Braniff was very big in Dallas in the mid-70's. I believe they were #2rnbehind Delta and ahead of American.

Braniff was #1 at DFW until deregulation (and for a short time after) and had about 160 departures. American was always a strong #2 with about 100 departures. Delta was a distant #3 with 50 departures (they didn't start building DFW until after deregulation).
 
ord
Posts: 1356
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 1999 10:34 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Braniff was very big in Dallas in the mid-70's. I believe they were #2rnbehind Delta and ahead of American.

Braniff was #1 at DFW until deregulation (and for a short time after) and had about 160 departures. American was always a strong #2 with about 100 departures. Delta was a distant #3 with 50 departures (they didn't start building DFW until after deregulation).
 
BNinMSY
Posts: 217
Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:19 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:36 am

Braniff International Airways was, simply put, the classiest and coolest airline in the skies during the late 60's,70's and early 80's ... leather seats, designer uniforms, cool route structure / hubs ---- all those S. America routes, cappucino served inflight.... no other airline could touch their style and sophistication in my eyes.

Braniff will forever live in my heart and eyes!
 
phuebner
Posts: 240
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:37 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
Braniff II... 1984 to 1989 with very close ties to Braniff I, DFW Based
Braniff III... 1991, MCI based

According to the article you posted, isn't Braniff II MCI based and Braniff III DFW based?
Remember this, Your Body is a temple Not a pull toy!
 
jlp123
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 6:40 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:50 am

Both Braniff II & III were based in Dallas. Braniff II moved it's base to MCO (around 88 or 89) after it's purchase of Florida Express.
 
thecamel67
Posts: 34
Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 3:12 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:07 am

Check out the book (if you can find a copy) "Flying Colors" by John Nance. It is an excellent book about Braniff's beginnings, growth, and ultimate demise.

My first flight solo was on the Calder Flying Colors of the US from SAT-DFW to visit my aunt and uncle.  Smile
 
phllax
Posts: 338
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:53 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:17 am

I thought Braniff III had a lot of flights from the NE to Florida, the Bahamas and SJU?
 
texan
Posts: 4061
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:23 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:25 am

Alrighty, found the old flight schedule, let's take a trip down memory lane Smile

From Chicago Midway:
Flight 525, Convair: 0130 MDW-MKC 0240-0305 MKC-ICT 0410-0425 ICT-OKC 0518-0533 OKC-DAL 0633-0655 DAL-FTW 0710-0720 FTW-AUS 0829-0839 AUS-SAT 0904 "Aircoach Chicago-San Antonio"

Flight 851, C-46: 0500 MDW-MKC 0605-0635 MKC-ICT 0748-0820 ICT-DAL 1021 Cargo only with an OKC flag stop. Operated x17

Flight 127, DC-3: 0800 MDW-MLI 0805 (seriously, that's what it says)

Flight 161, DC-3: 0840 MDW-ALO 0925-0940 ALO-SUX 1100

Flight 31, Connie: 0910 MDW-MKC 1000-1025 MKC-ICT 1125-1145 ICT-OKC 1235-1255 OKC-DAL 1355-1425 DAL-HOU 1535

Flight 73, DC-3: 1040 MDW-MLI 1045-1055 MLI-MKC 1253

Flight 51, Convair: 1230 MDW-MKC 1340-1405 MKC-ICT 1510-1525 ICT-OKC 1618-1633 OKC-FTW 1733-1800 FTW-HOU 1914-1935 HOU-CRP 2034

Flight 55, DC-6: 1525 MDW-DAL 1745-1810 DAL-HOU 1920

Flight 393, Convair: 1600 MDW-MKC 1710-1730 MKC-TUL 1841-1856 TUL-DAL 2012-2045 DAL-AUS 2144-2154 AUS-SAT 2229

Flight 61, DC-6: 1755 MDW-DAL 2015-2040 DAL-HOU 2154 "The Texan-Aire"

Flight 363, Convair: 1830 MDW-ALO 1855-1910 ALO-SUX 2022-2034 SUX-FSD 2104-2119 FSD-MSP 2218

Flight 41, Connie: 2045 MDW-MKC 2135-2200 MKC-ICT 2300-2320 ICT-OKC 0010-0025 OKC-DAL 0125

From Chicago O'Hare:

Flight 165, DC-3: 1215 ORD-ALO 1300

That's all she wrote in the August 15, 1956 Braniff International Airways timetable for Chicago. Hope that helps!

For random information from the timetable, I count 23 daily flights (one way) between DAL-FTW Smile

Texan
"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
 
tcxdegsy
Posts: 356
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:47 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting Maury (Reply 18):
Fly me" was National Airlines.



Quoting Jlp123 (Reply 19):
Actually the "Fly Me" champaign was used by National Airlines

Oops, sorry guys - it's Monday!  crazy 
next flights: BA1441 0566 0581 1446 EDI-LHR-MXP-LHR-EDI
 
jlp123
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 6:40 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:22 am

Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter):
saw pic's of this airline and I just wanted to know where they flew to and did they have a hub in the US...And how many flight's did they have out of ORD

Okay now that I'm home now, I can offer BN ORD schedules from 1976 and 1978.

Braniff ORD (Spring/Summer) 1976

DFW 9x
IAH 4x
MCI 7x
TUL 1x
ICT 1X

Total 22x

Braniff ORD (Summer) 1978

DFW 10x
IAH 5x
MCI 6x
OKC 1x
TUL 1x
ICT 1x

Total 24x

I hope that answers your question. If you have more interest in BN's schedule may I suggest Ebay, there are always timetable's for sale.
 
WDBRR
Posts: 599
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:28 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:10 pm

Quoting Jlp123 (Reply 19):
Actually the "Fly Me" champaign was used by National Airlines.

Here is a funny link to the "Fly Me" ads, several "girls" are featured.
you have to click on each name to see...one appears to be a British Airways
flight attendant. Interesting is one from Braniff I with the space bubble uniform.
http://www.seeitfirst.co.uk/pamann/pamann.html
 
FlyGuyClt
Posts: 1579
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:23 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:30 pm

As a Proud former Braniff II employee.

Braniff International Airways. OKC< DAL< DFW Based.
Braniff Inc. DFW based. Dalfort was still at 7701 Lemon Ave. (Love Field)
Braniff Inc. After merger with Florida Express Airlines Inc. Moved HDQ to MCO.
Braniff International Airlines. Based in DFW.

Some other web sites for BN history are:

www.braniffinternational.org
www.flybraniff.com
Fly Braniff even has commercials.
Safe Flying  

Hot towel anyone?

[Edited 2006-03-17 04:31:50]

[Edited 2006-03-17 04:32:45]
Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
 
FlyGuyClt
Posts: 1579
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:23 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:02 pm

Braniff International Airways.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Garrard



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Garrard



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Vito Cedrini



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gerard Helmer



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Ellis M. Chernoff



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Garrard



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Garrard



Braniff Inc.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bob Garrard



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Juerg Schmid



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Frank C. Duarte Jr.



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Chris E. Novak



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © JetPix




Braniff International Airlines.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gerard Helmer



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Aad van der Voet



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Frank Schaefer



Safe Flying  Smile
Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
 
citationjet
Posts: 2259
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2003 2:26 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:37 pm

Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter):
I just wanted to know where they flew to and did they have a hub in the US...

This site has old Braniff timetables showing where the airline flew:

http://www.airchive.com/SITE%20PAGES/TIMETABLES-BRANIIF.html

Braniff Firsts:
During its fifty years of service to the flying public, Braniff has been recognized as an innovator and pace-setter in passenger service, safe flight operations, streamlined reservations, ticketing procedures, and air freight handling. In many instances, Braniff innovations became standard procedure for all the airlines. Here's a listing of Braniff's noteworthy "firsts":

In 1940, conceived and helped develop the Air Transport Association (ATA) Clearing House which expedited the handling of interline accounts for all scheduled air carriers.

First airline terminal hostess in the aviation industry, Miss Beth Haley, who served in the lobby of the early-day Love Field Terminal at Dallas, Texas (1940).

Braniff was the first airline to conduct an apprentice mechanic program (1941).

Braniff was the first airline to hire and train women to become certified airline mechanics (1941).

The first woman traffic manager in the airline business Mrs. Inez Blancett, in charge of Braniff's office at Wichita Falls, Texas (1942).

Instant Confirmation of Airline Reservations via teletype to control office was inaugurated by Braniff Oct. 15, 1946, the first system of its kind to be adopted by a commercial airline.

Braniff, credited with excellent advance training of its pilots, was the first commercial airline in the U.S.A. to be certificated for use of Instrument Landing System (ILS)

Braniff was the first airline to introduce combination first class/tourist passenger service to South America (1948).

A chartered Braniff DC-6, for White House staff members and newspaper correspondents, was the first domestic commercial plane to land passengers at New York's International Airport (Idlewild) when it was officially opened by President Harry Truman on July 30, 1948.

On Jan. 17, 1949, Braniff was the first airline certificated by the FAA to operate DC-4 flights to La Paz, Bolivia (world's highest airport) with the use of JATO (jet assist takeoff) as a supplementary safety measure.

Braniff was the first airline to operate non-stop daylight flights between Lima, Peru and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (March 1948).

Braniff operated the first passenger flight to South America equipped with airborne radar (1954).

Braniff was the first airline in the world to adopt electronic reservations "brain", thus joining all of its domestic cities with an electronic reservations system (1955).

Braniff set record for scheduled commercial airliners when one of its DC-7C planes flew from Chicago to Dallas in two hours and eight minutes, compared to regular scheduled time of 2 hours, 50 minutes (1955).

Braniff was the first airline to fly the Douglas DC-7C, 360 miles per hour aircraft in the U.S. domestic service (1956).

Braniff operated the first non-stop flight between Rio and Miami on a DC-7C pre-inaugural flight. The aircraft flew the 4,360 miles non-stop in 14 1/2 hours. (1959).

Braniff was the first and only airline in the world to fly the Boeing 707-227 Super Jet (1959).

Braniff set record flight time, 6 hours, 8 minutes – between the U.S.A. and Lima (1960).

A Braniff 707 set a new speed record, Miami to Buenos Aires, Argentina - 8 hours 15 minutes flying time (1960).

Braniff’s R.V. Carelton chaired the first world SST assembly in Montreal, Canada, where plans were formulated for development of the supersonic transport (1961).

The first carrier in the U.S.A. to introduce the BAC 111 twin jet short range jet (1965).

Revolutionized aircraft exterior and interior design with its “End of the Plain Plane” campaign in 1965.

First airline to commission a fashion couturier (Emilio Pucci) to design its flight attendant uniforms (1965).

First Drive-In Airline Ticketing Facility at the Braniff Love Field in Dallas (1966).

First non-stop flight, Tokyo to Dallas Love Field 6,700 statute miles (1967)

Braniff inaugurated the first non-stop service between Texas and Hawaii (1967).

First airline to provide the wide-body interior concept of its 727 fleet (1971).

First airline to commission "Flying Art" when Alexander Calder painted a DC-8-62 (1973) and a Boeing 727-200 in 1975.

First non-stop service from Texas to London (1978).

First and only U.S. airline to fly the supersonic Concorde jet (1979).

http://www.braniffinternational.org/history/firsts.htm
Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
 
BR715-A1-30
Posts: 6525
Joined: Thu May 30, 2002 9:30 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:40 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 6):
As well as the time Bob Crandall called Tom Plaskett and outright ASKED him (while he was being recorded) to raise fares by 15% so AA could make more money

Wasn't this the conversation when he said "You raise your god damn fares, and I'll raise my god damn fares!" ???
Puhdiddle
 
jetdeltamsy
Posts: 2688
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2000 11:51 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:31 pm

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 35):
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 6):
As well as the time Bob Crandall called Tom Plaskett and outright ASKED him (while he was being recorded) to raise fares by 15% so AA could make more money

Wasn't this the conversation when he said "You raise your god damn fares, and I'll raise my god damn fares!" ???

That conversation took place between Crandall and Howard Putnam, not Tom Plaskett. Plaskett was VP of Marketing @ AA at the time.
Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
 
727LOVER
Posts: 6683
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 12:22 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:40 pm

Not to add confusion,....oh, why not! Big grin



but the Braniff that ended in 1982 was ACTUALLY the 3rd version, so TECHNICALLY there were 5 Braniffs.
Love Trumps Hate
 
jetdeltamsy
Posts: 2688
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2000 11:51 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 37):
the Braniff that ended in 1982 was ACTUALLY the 3rd version

how so? never heard that one before.
Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
 
727LOVER
Posts: 6683
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 12:22 am

RE: Braniff Airways?

Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 38):
how so? never heard that one before.

See reply # 16:
RE: I Just Saw A Commercial For Braniff (by 727LOVER Mar 19 2004 in Civil Aviation)#ID1466187

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 38):
how so? never heard that one before.
Love Trumps Hate
 
NW305
Posts: 33
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:37 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:52 am

Braniff operated a very large contract for the Military Airlift Command (MAC) during the Vietnam conflict (1966-1973). Aircraft departed from Travis AFB, CA; McChord AFB, WA and Norton AFB, CA and flew to Hickam AFB, HI, Wake Island, Andersen AB,Guam, Clark AB, Philippines, Taipei, Taiwan; Kadena AB, Okinawa; Yokota AB,Japan; Danang and Saigon in South Vietnam all the way to Bangkok, Thailand. The Boeing 707-300 was the primary aircraft used on these routes.
 
NW305
Posts: 33
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:37 pm

RE: Braniff Airways?

Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:50 pm