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How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:41 am

A friend of mine lost her wallet, with her drivers license in it obviously, and shes got a flight tomorrow on Southwest from DEN to MDW. How does one go about getting on a plane without an ID. I am guessing this is a frequent occurance. The Southwest agent (at 1800IFLYSWA) told her that a faxed copy of a birth certificate should work. Is this true or is she going to have some problems at the TSA tomorrow? The ID is from Illinois by the way, so she cannot get one re-issued in Colorado. Any thoughts? Thanks guys.

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:47 am

Chances are she won't make it pass TSA without some form of acceptable pictured ID. A driver license or a valid passport are required. Also, a ID issued by the DMV for those who do not drive is acceptable too. She may not make her flight in time tomorrow, but she'll make home eventually. Good luck & regards.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:04 am

Not good. I doubt TSA will let her through w/out an ID. You might wanna call WN again just to speak to a different person coz I know they won't let my girlfriend through when she lost her ID a while ago. She had to drive from LA to Sacramento instead.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:15 am

$50 slipped to the TSA guy under the ticket?

/how to get arrested
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:21 am

I lost my drivers license and I still was able to fly on Continental Airlines last year from IAH to DFW.

I did have other forms of ID available, but more or less, not government issued. I also showed them all of my credit cards, etc......

It is tough, but can be done.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 4):
I lost my drivers license and I still was able to fly on Continental Airlines last year from IAH to DFW.

I did have other forms of ID available, but more or less, not government issued. I also showed them all of my credit cards, etc......

It is tough, but can be done.

It sounds like she lost her wallet meaning she probably had all her stuff in it.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:39 am

Not this will be of any help, since she probably lost everything, here's the official policy:

Proper Identification

If you have a paper ticket for a domestic flight, passengers age 18 and over must present one form of photo identification issued by a local state or federal government agency (e.g.: passport/drivers license/military ID), or two forms of non-photo identification, one of which must have been issued by a state or federal agency (e.g.: U.S. social security card). For an international flight, you will need to present a valid passport, visa, or any other required documentation. Passengers without proper ID may be denied boarding.

For e-tickets, you will need to show your photo identification and e-ticket receipt to receive your boarding pass.

There are four ways to obtain a boarding pass:

Go to your airline's ticket counter at the airport
Use curbside check-in
Use your airline's self-service ticket kiosk in the airport lobby
Print the boarding pass from your airline's website

Note: Persons with parental, official, medical business or similar reasons may be able to access the checkpoint, but should check with their airline for required documentation.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:43 am

It's possible without picture ID, but if you lose your whole wallet, I think you're in trouble. My girlfriend did however say it was quite the runaround, she had to show them basically everything she had to get them to allow her past security.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:56 am

What's up with aviation girlfriends and losing wallets anyway?  tongue 
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:05 am

A photo ID is not required.

This is not uncommon and the TSA will get you through with whatever you have, but probably need at least some form of ID. She'll be SSSS extra searched but no big deal.

There is probably some other ID or credit card you can overnight to her??


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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:06 am

A year or so ago I lost my driver's license while out of town and didn't realize it until I was checking in at the airport and pulled out my wallet to show some ID. The agent was very nice about it and suggested I scour my bag and the pants I was wearing the night before. No such luck, it wasn't there, but I had no problem flying. I just got the special SSSS treatment at security where all of my belongings were searched.

My ID showed up months later in the mail thanks to some unidentified kind soul... maybe it fell into a gutter or something? Stupid me...  banghead 
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:11 am

ALWAYS make a color copy of your photo ID and carry it separately from everything else. I have been fortunate to never have lost my ID; however, one cannot predict the future.

I keep it stashed in a hidden compartment of my suitcase. If I lose my wallet, I've got that. If my luggage gets lost, I hopefully still have my wallet. If I've lost both, well, I'm screwed.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:25 am

I keep one passport in my wallet and one in my carryon. I hope never to lose both.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 12):
I keep one passport in my wallet and one in my carryon. I hope never to lose both.

WHAT? How did you obtain 2 passports? How do you fit a passport in a wallet?  confused 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:00 am

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 4):
lost my drivers license and I still was able to fly on Continental Airlines last year from IAH to DFW.

I did have other forms of ID available, but more or less, not government issued. I also showed them all of my credit cards, etc......

It is tough, but can be done.



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 7):
It's possible without picture ID, but if you lose your whole wallet, I think you're in trouble. My girlfriend did however say it was quite the runaround, she had to show them basically everything she had to get them to allow her past security

It is possible - did it here in Canada once when I left my wallet in my office... My technique, in a nutshell? I begged.

The lead agent not only checked me in on the basis of a telephone bill in my name (which happened to be in the car), but she put a note on file that I did not have my i.d. so I was not even ASKED for i.d. checking in for my return flight.

Here is a question: does the TSA check i.d. at the security point in the US? Here airlines check i.d. before issuing a boarding pass and before permitting you on board, but you only show the boarding pass at security.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:06 am

Well now due to 9/11, you are required to show your ID to someone, not necessarily a TSA employee, as you enter the line for TSA screening.

What is rather ironic about this is, many times, the person you are showing your ID to is of Middle Eastern descent........and I'm sorry, but with all the
racial profiling going on these days, I just find that sort of funny, in a sick sort of way.............

Then you just go through the screening process and you don't show your ID again............
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:35 am

I always have digital copies of my passport and other I.D. stored with people I can contact anytime and also keep the .pdf files on my memory stick that usually lives in my briefcase. Not quite like having the real thing, but I've been told that in a pinch it is much better than nothing, especially if you are standing at the USA embassy begging to get a passport replaced.

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting Mcmahonsmr (Reply 6):
passengers age 18 and over must present one form of photo identification issued by a local state or federal government agency (e.g.: passport/drivers license/military ID), or two forms of non-photo identification, one of which must have been issued by a state or federal agency (e.g.: U.S. social security card).

TWA902fly, is your friend under 18? If not, can she pretend to be one?

How does it work for under 18s? Do they just say they are under 18 ...or do they have to proof their birthday?
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:48 am

Ala passport? If you don't have one you can always go to the nearest government office and apply for one. I've always had one as my family travels but I want to say that after you apply you will recieve a recpt for your applacation with a black and white of your photo along with all of your proper ID information.

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:27 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 13):
How did you obtain 2 passports?

Lots of people have 2 or more passports.

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 13):
How do you fit a passport in a wallet?

Tumi makes a nice wallet specifically for fitting a passport.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:28 am

Just google for the result of the recent 9th Circuit Court decision in the Gilmore lawsuit:
The one ray of light from the court was its confirmation that the secret law "requires that airline passengers either present identification or be subjected to a more extensive search". This would be a surprise to anyone who reads a TSA checkpoint sign or TSA's own website, all of which claim that ID is "required". It is now clear that air passengers are NOT required to present identification; instead, they can opt to be searched, as a "selectee"..

Print it out, and leave enough time to be "extensively searched". You can also expect ignorance and an attitude from everyone about it. It might be best to call for WN's Ground Security Coordinator (GSC) from the outset.

The TSA screeners need to see your boarding pass, they do NOT need to see your ID (despite what they say/think).
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:37 am

I had my wallet stolen at EWR last year, and was told that I would not be allowed through security without some form of ID.

I had to go home and because of the rules of the auction site I bought the ticket from, I couldn't even change the ticket to an alternate date. What sucks is that I got my wallet back 4 hours after the flight left, with everything in it except $100 in cash.

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 13):
WHAT? How did you obtain 2 passports? How do you fit a passport in a wallet?

You fold it in half and cram it in.

[Edited 2006-03-16 22:42:43]
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 13):
WHAT? How did you obtain 2 passports? How do you fit a passport in a wallet?

I have a Polish one and a USA one...its called dual citizenship  Silly
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1):
Chances are she won't make it pass TSA without some form of acceptable pictured ID. A driver license or a valid passport are required. Also, a ID issued by the DMV for those who do not drive is acceptable too. She may not make her flight in time tomorrow, but she'll make home eventually. Good luck & regards.

Not true, I lost my wallet in LA while on a big round of travel, I had no other ID, not even business cards. I flew LAX-IAD, IAD-MSP and MSP-LGA all without any id. I was subjected to additional screening, but really had no problem.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:21 am

Did she file a Police report on her stolen wallet?
Perhaps if she did file one, the police there could verify her ID by checking the driver's license computers access they have with other states and a copy of the report could be used as a temporary ID.
About 6-7 years ago, my brother got mugged at a loop station in Chicago and his wallet got stolen (and he even grabbed one of the thugs - cops said he shouldn't have done that). He filed a police report and along with some info his wife FedEx'ed him and with some stuff he had in his briefcase, he was able to get home.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:00 am

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 4):
It is tough, but can be done.

Agreed. It happened to me. TSA, other than D. L. or passport, did let me on. I had lots of other I D including photo. The super was called over and after a minute or two of simple q's, I got through and was able to board my Comair flight to CVG.
This happened in a southeastern state last June. I Will not mentioned the city because of possible repercussions to TSA people there.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:15 am

At CVG, TSA would not let me pass because my driver's license had expired a week prior. I even presented my pilots license, which is government issued, and they would not let me pass. It was not until I got them to get the supervisor did they let may pass. Returning on the same trip, with the same expired driver's license, TSA at PBI had not problems accepting it. So I guess it really depends on the airport and TSA at that airport.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:51 am

I keep a copy of my passport, Drivers License, Mil. ID and birth certificate on my Ipod, just in case  Wink
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:55 am

ID is not actually required by the TSA if you are willing to submit yourself to extensive secondary screening. It may be required by the airline to issue your ticket in order to prevent credit card fraud though.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:46 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 11):
ALWAYS make a color copy of your photo ID and carry it separately from everything else. I have been fortunate to never have lost my ID; however, one cannot predict the future.

Wow, I never thought of doing that. I am sure they would still want to process you as SSSS but at least they would have a little less of that "sure you lost your wallet" look to them.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting TWA902fly (Thread starter):
How does one go about getting on a plane without an ID

Hiding in the gear well is popular in some parts of the world.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:16 pm

In FLL we allow customers to travel without proper ID, however when this is the case they are automatically made a selectee to be processed through the secondary security screening...it happens, not everyone is going to have a government issued ID or there ID has expired...as long as they are properly screened they can fly...hope this helps =)
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:27 pm

Quoting TWA902fly (Thread starter):
How does one go about getting on a plane without an ID.

I've got an acquintance who says she never flies without ID. She tells the airline in advance and they just put it in the computer.

Curiously sometimes the computer doesn't necessarily even print up an SSSS boarding pass. (Advanced notification of no ID seems key, but not necessarily the amount of previous travel on the carrier.)

Thanks to the sealing of the security regulations regarding ID and travel, we'll never really know how things work exactly. (I also suspect that many agents and TSA people do things by the seat of their pants and aren't necessarily informed of things.) All you can do is try different approaches and report them.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:02 pm

Last year I was flying FLL-SAN on WN. We had already printed out boarding passes off southwest.com. Got to the airport, and pulled out my wallet, no Drivers Liscence. I had left it in the flie of papers I signed at the bank the night before. So I told the initial screener what a dummy I was and after giving me a dirty look she said quietly "Give all your luggage to your wife, they are going to search everything you carry through." So I went through screening with only my camera case. Got patted down, wanded, the whole nine yards, and my camera case was almost tipped upside down and shaken out, if you know what I mean. Meanwhile my wife is carrying all her crap, and mine, and waiting on the clean side for me to get done. They were very friendly about it, but so was I, told the guys "Do what you have to do, as long as I get on the plane." One of them even commented "you like Southwest Airlines do you?" as I was wearing a WN T-Shirt. After it all, they let me go and I flew on no problem. My sister Prority Mailed my liscence to California for the flight back.

The moral of the story: Tell the truth, be friendly, polite, and apologetic, and prepare to be fondled by strangers. She should get through ok. If not, recruit some help from the Southwest Ticket counter. I'm sure they'll help you out.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:27 pm

happened to a friend of mine and they let her through, she just had to undergo extra screening
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:38 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 7):
My girlfriend did however say it was quite the runaround, she had to show them basically everything she had to get them to allow her past security.

Yeah, a trick that never fails Big grin

Quoting USAir734 (Reply 35):
happened to a friend of mine and they let her through, she just had to undergo extra screening

That's what I mean  Wink
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:11 am

well guys thanks for your help ill forward this info to her, flight is at 8pm tonight (WN DEN-MDW). Seriously, this website is a faster source of information than searching for this stuff on google. Thanks.

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:12 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 13):
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 12):
I keep one passport in my wallet and one in my carryon. I hope never to lose both.

WHAT? How did you obtain 2 passports? How do you fit a passport in a wallet?

Even my 5 months old daughter has two passports  Wink. One Swedish and one US.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:20 am

I didn't know that when flying domestic in the US you need id... When I fly domestic within the Netherlands or Ireland or what so ever, i don't need an ID. At least they never asked for it... is this different in the USA, maybe since it's a very large county?
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Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:23 am

Why not go to the Department of Motor Vehicals (DMV) tell them you lost your licience and they will issue a replacement for a nominal fee. My daughter lost her licience and it took no longer then any trip to the DMV takes!!!
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:45 am

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 14):
Here is a question: does the TSA check i.d. at the security point in the US? Here airlines check i.d. before issuing a boarding pass and before permitting you on board, but you only show the boarding pass at security.

Your ID gets checked at the security checkpoint always here in the States. If you get your boarding pass from an agent they check your ID which I would assume is for credit card fraud, etc. If you use the kiosk to checkin then the airline assumes you are who you say you are since you have your FF number and PIN or you have a credit card that ties your name to a ticket.
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:46 am

Maybe she can use the passport as an ID !
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting Byronsterk (Reply 39):
I didn't know that when flying domestic in the US you need id... When I fly domestic within the Netherlands or Ireland or what so ever, i don't need an ID. At least they never asked for it... is this different in the USA, maybe since it's a very large county?

After 9/11, everything changed... I don't know if the requirement existed before then. If so, it was mostly to check that you were the one on the ticket in case you had a counterfeit or something.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 40):
Why not go to the Department of Motor Vehicals (DMV) tell them you lost your licience and they will issue a replacement for a nominal fee. My daughter lost her licience and it took no longer then any trip to the DMV takes!!!

Like, 10 hours? Big grin
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 40):
Why not go to the Department of Motor Vehicals (DMV) tell them you lost your licience and they will issue a replacement for a nominal fee. My daughter lost her licience and it took no longer then any trip to the DMV takes!!!

Her license is an Illinois one. She in Colorado...

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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:11 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 43):
Like, 10 hours?

At least, I always take a lunch.

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 44):
Her license is an Illinois one. She in Colorado...

Sorry, missed that part.
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting Byronsterk (Reply 39):
is this different in the USA, maybe since it's a very large country?

No, it's because it is being run by very large idiots  blockhead . ID has nothing (that's NOTHING) to do with security, but the vast majority of the American public and American government can't see that.  banghead 
 
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RE: How To Get On A Plane Without ID (its Lost)

Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:48 am

Last summer my wife accidently checked in her driver's license when we were flying home from PIT. She had to get a boarding pass that was marked SSSS and go through the extra screening, but that was it. In short, no problem!

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