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Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:48 pm

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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:56 pm

Interesting read. Thanks.

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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:29 pm

Well considering the relations beween the US and Russia have been slowly going downhill (on a political level) and the fact that the article mentions that the WTO case has somehow found its way into the decision making process I would think that Airbus is on the upside here. Boeing already has a big R&D facility in Moscow and is participating in RRJ and Airbus I believe was investing in Irkutsk facilities and promising some more A350 work so it will be interesting to see what the end result of all these factors will be.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:46 pm

This is really turning into a major soap opera.

Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Boeing in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the US government.

One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:31 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

I'm not sure that is a serious concern for SU: they're still accumulating their 767 fleet, training cew etc. They surely can last at least 5 years before they start retiring the type.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:00 pm

Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Airbus in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the EU.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:03 pm

I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:05 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.

And both RR and GE? If trying to keep both Europe and the US happy is the point they could buy the 787 with RR or the A350 with GE.
 
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:12 pm

Again? Seems this will take forever until they decide.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:52 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
I have a funny feeling they may end up going with both Airbus and Boeing.

I like that feeling Gkirk.

Personally, I think SU colors will look much better on 787 then 350...
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:09 pm

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 5):
Having mentioned the WTO issue however, it could very well serve Russia to go with Airbus in order to win favor and subsequent approval of Russia's application into the WTO from the EU.

The EU already signed a trade accord a couple of years ago. They haven't done so with the US, as the article mentions. They are in negotiations to do so, so why would they order Airbus to get approval?
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:40 pm

I would say "ofcourse" Aeroflot postponed it for the time being. Aeroflot is going to join KL/Af's Skyteam.
 
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:44 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

Don't forget slots are hard to come by for the 787 nowadays so not sure that's very true.
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RE: Aeroflot Decision On Plane Deal Postponed

Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:24 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 3):
One other important issue for Aeroflot certainly must also be that Boeing will be able to deliver the 787 2-3 years earlier then what Airbus can with the A350 especialy now with its recent further 6 month delay in the program.

Im not so sure of that, I doubt there are many 787 slots left in the first few years of production. But its also possible that Boeing will ramp up the production rate.

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