codc10
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CO 762 In HKG

Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:25 pm

Apologies if anyone caught this, but I certainly couldn't find it.

Anyone know what this Continental 767-200 was doing in HKG in January? CO does not rotate any 762s through the Micronesia system (which would have replaced the normal 738 to GUM), nor does the aircraft have the range for EWR-HKG. Was this a charter or maintenance ferry to HAECO?

If anybody with a deeper knowledge of the situation could enlighten me, it would be most appreciated.


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CX Flyboy
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:45 pm

CO have been sending some 767-200s and -400s here for maintenance, as well as some 737-800s with winglets.

There is a 767-200 here at the moment getting attention.
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:02 pm

Just to add the 738's at HAECO had the winglets installed in Hong Kong. The 762 here now (Mid March) is N69154, the 4th in order to visit HKG.
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:49 pm

There also was a 752 there. I was wondering the same thing CODC10.

Thanks for the info CX flyboy and N754PR.
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flypdx
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:47 am

I believe that CO does a lot of their bog MX checks in HKG. Well, it isn't CO doing the checks, but that is where they are outsourced to.
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 1):
as well as some 737-800s with winglets

Bet those were AirMic 800's.
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:28 am

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 4):
I believe that CO does a lot of their bog MX checks in HKG. Well, it isn't CO doing the checks, but that is where they are outsourced to.

it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic and back...granted there are no pax/cargo, but it still probaby will run a few grand each time to put enough petrol to fly it over....
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:51 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
but it still probaby will run a few grand each time to put enough petrol to fly it over....

CO doesn't specifically fly empty flights to HKG just to bring the aircraft over - they usually rotate them through HNL and GUM on regular pax flights to get them to HKG, either as an extra section or equipment substitution for the regular 764.

Separately, what is HAECO's reputation for maintenance procedures?

I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

Granted, Hong Kong is quite different from El Salvador, but still, does anyone know how they are viewed within the industry?
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:58 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 7):

I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

That was one event that was a somewhat common Airbus problem (I believe). I don't believe it was ever linked to faulty MX, and I believe that B6 has a wonderful record when it comes to MX.

[Edited 2006-03-19 22:26:36]
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:57 am

JetBlue does the overwhelming majority of its maintenance with Air Canada Technical Services in Winnipeg. TACA (El Salvador) only does a small share of the mx. Based on preliminary findings, the nose gear issues have nothing to do with mx.
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 7):
I know it sounds very ethnocentric, but I think of things like B6 outsourcing maintenance to El Salvador and then their subsequent nosewheel issue and wonder about the quality of work outside the US.

that's quite not right. If they are FAA and JAR approved, they are as good as anyone.It's the same standard rating for all of them, no matter where they are.Hispanic or Asian mechs are not less qualified than an ''American'' (if you can define that).plus, Aeroman, VEM and ENAER are getting more and more customers from all over the globe, taking advantage of the labor costs down here.

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 8):
That was one event that was a somewhat common Airbus problem

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N754PR
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:28 am

HAECO is one of the best names in the business, which is why so many people use them.

As for the CO 757's, only one came to visit HAECO. I think its now 3 764's and 4 762's plus all the 777's.
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:49 am

HAECO is, as mentioned, one of the most respected outfits in the industry. We have not had any problems with their work and the facilities (which I had the privilege to tour while in HKG) are sparkling new and world-class.

AFAIK, the 767-200s are ferried in from the States. Working them into the GUM/NRT/HNL/NGO/LAX/EWR/IAH rotation we use in the Pacific is not possible.

Last I saw, the 764s get ferried in from GUM. The 737-800s getting their winglets fitted are all GUM-based as well. This is all in addition to the normal maintenance our 777s have been receiving at HAECO for years during their extended ground time at HKG and periodic long-term checks.
 
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic and back...

More like over Pacific...

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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:37 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 6):
it must be a substantial cost difference in m/x labour for them to fuel the plane and fly it over the atlantic

That is, if CO pays for the fuel. The freight hauler I worked for a while ago was flying 727s from Europe to South America for MX but the MX company was paying for the fuel to get the planes there and back...
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RE: CO 762 In HKG

Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:54 pm

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 13):
More like over Pacific...

yah...duh..silly me  crazy 

Quoting Blueflyer (Reply 14):

That is, if CO pays for the fuel. The freight hauler I worked for a while ago was flying 727s from Europe to South America for MX but the MX company was paying for the fuel to get the planes there and back...

intersting....thanks for the info..... Smile

wait until lou dobbs finds out about this one. stirthepot 
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