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Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:19 pm

Beginning sometime in July, Air Canada will go twice daily on their recently launched SAN-YVR route. The entire flight schedule will be modified so an aircraft overnights at SAN.

SAN-YVR
AC 8113 07:30 10:50
AC 8111 16:00 19:20

YVR-SAN
AC 8110 12:20 15:25
AC 8112 19:55 23:00

The one downside is that both flights will be operated with a CRJ-200 as opposed to the current CRJ-705. However, this remains an increase in the number of daily seats on SAN-YVR.

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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:31 pm

Well, it's a good thing that Air Canada is doing well enough in the SAN market that it can increase the number of seats offered, but it would have been cool to see the CRJ-705 upgraded to a EMB-175 or 190 instead.

Guess we'll be seeing a lot more of this in SAN:
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:35 pm

Perhaps the CRJ200 is just filling in for the CRJ705 while the -705 is having its PTVs installed...?
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:06 am

The flight re-timing will also allow for the introduction of SAN-YYZ which arrives at the current CRJ-705 arrival time.

The re-timing of flights will also will connect to YVR-Asia banks in both direction.

There will be a chance of an upgrade when AS ceases SAN-YVR in September.
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:21 am

Wow those are pretty looong legs to operate a CRJ with.
 
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting Lindy Field (Reply 1):
it would have been cool to see the CRJ-705 upgraded to a EMB-175 or 190 instead.

I agree. I'm glad AC is bringing back its presence at SAN, but I don't like to see it downgraded...
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting DCAYOW (Reply 3):
There will be a chance of an upgrade when AS ceases SAN-YVR in September.

I saw that in OAG, but AS' website still lists the flight. You think it's true?

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In other SAN news, Midwest will be increasing SAN-MCI from 1x daily to 2x daily over the summer. This is a seasonal addition.

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AC//YYZ-SEA 2nd FLT -- First E190?

Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting YOW (Reply 4):
Wow those are pretty looong legs to operate a CRJ with.

While mainline AC CRJ's are almost fully integrated into JAZZ's fleet, the YVR-SAN flights would have to operate with original JAZZ "metal", as they have extended range capability. Don't believe there are currently any E75's based in YVR, but as more E90's arrive, the equipment could very well shift.

Quoting San747 (Reply 5):
I'm glad AC is bringing back its presence at SAN, but I don't like to see it downgraded...

"Downgraded" is a relative term. Between the 220 daily seats AC will be operating from YVR/YYZ to SAN this year, versus 0 daily seats operated last year, it's a vast upgrade!
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:42 am

Quoting DCAYOW (Reply 3):
There will be a chance of an upgrade when AS ceases SAN-YVR in September.

Why is Alaska discontinuing the non-stop SAN-YVR flight? Is there really not enough room for two players on this route? Is Air Canada hurting AS on this one? On this 2 plus hour route, I'd sure prefer an MD-80 or 737 to AC's 50 seat Barbie jet or even a larger 70 seat Barbie jet.
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:02 am

Alaska will be dropping YVR-SAN eff Sept 06
 
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:35 pm

Not to be a total tight-wad, but is there a link somewhere that says AS is dropping this route? It's still in their schedule well past September 6.

If they are suspending it September 6, methinks that this will become a summer seasonal flight, as the summer schedule ends on September 6 (or somewhere close to it).
 
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:35 pm

The 3hr+ on the CRJ just gave me the chills!

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 8):
Why is Alaska discontinuing the non-stop SAN-YVR flight? Is there really not enough room for two players on this route? Is Air Canada hurting AS on this one? On this 2 plus hour route, I'd sure prefer an MD-80 or 737 to AC's 50 seat Barbie jet or even a larger 70 seat Barbie jet.

Definitely. But if going for a smaller aircraft, the ERJ175s would be much better for this than good ol' CRJs.
 
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RE: Air Canada To Increase SAN-YVR To 2x Daily

Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:11 pm

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 8):
Why is Alaska discontinuing the non-stop SAN-YVR flight? Is there really not enough room for two players on this route? Is Air Canada hurting AS on this one? On this 2 plus hour route, I'd sure prefer an MD-80 or 737 to AC's 50 seat Barbie jet or even a larger 70 seat Barbie jet.

The loads have been abysmal, its basically an O&D flight - no flow for Alaska. Plus, the flight was added purely as a competitive response to HP's addition of an RJ flight between SAN-YVR. Remained in the schedule until after the start of AC service. I think they feel they could have competed against HP, but no AC with AC's flow over YVR to places like YEG, YYC, YLW, YYJ.

Quoting Chugach (Reply 10):
Not to be a total tight-wad, but is there a link somewhere that says AS is dropping this route? It's still in their schedule well past September 6.

No link, but based on alaskaair.com queries, it appears now it is ending sometime in October, probably with the Autumn schedule shift. Not bookable in late October into November.
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