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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:37 am

Couldn't resist it, given the breathless nature in which stuff like this is posted on a.net. Sorry guys  Wink

It's just a minor change - the existing graduated teal backdrop to the koru is to be replaced with greenstone,

The first aircraft to feature the new paint scheme is likely to be one of the Boeing 777s yet to be delivered.


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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:42 am

Wow, it's almost as if someone already started a thread on this, and you were so 'excited' to be funny that you didn't bother to do a search.  Wink
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:51 am

The other thread seems to have been deleted for some bizarre reason.

But anyway, I was wondering if the design shown in the picture on the stuff website is what will be used for the tail background.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/

I wish they had something bright and beautiful rather than the drab colours of the new interiors and new uniforms.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:57 am

No offense Aerokiwi, but have you actually been in the new aircraft? As someone who works in them just about daily I don't really find them drab - I do find them subtle and relaxing to the eye. To my mind they're a million percent improvement on the garish blue green and red seat colours they replaced.
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:58 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Wow, it's almost as if someone already started a thread on this, and you were so 'excited' to be funny that you didn't bother to do a search. Wink



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 2):
The other thread seems to have been deleted for some bizarre reason.

Don't you just hate it when you're wrong, Ikramerica  Wink
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:30 am

Glad they're keeping the koru, but what is this "extension" they speak of? I've always though that ANZ aircraft look simply stunning. Such grace and earthiness in the color and the lines and the koru. But I guess that's what they were going for, lol.

What's this new "greenstone" color? Is it basically the color of the new uniforms in that pic on stuff?
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I was wondering who would spill first. I've been sitting on this for 3 months now. Everytime a comment was made on the state of the current livery I have been itching to say something. We have a 737, ZK-NGE due to be painted in a few weeks which is to be painted in this new (tail) scheme.

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Hehe, and I was just about to ask if it was going from a stark white fuselage to blue like others?  tongueincheek 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting TG992 (Reply 3):
No offense Aerokiwi, but have you actually been in the new aircraft?

Yup, a recent 777 flight to and from Melbourne. New IFE is great, but again with the drab. I was hoping for the warms brown leather of the A320 but they went for this, which should help blend in with the crew until it's just one big grey blob.

I still reckon they should get rid of the Pacific Wave. It was always weak looking and a logo with no real basis in national identity. They should replace it with a silver decal of the silver fern, in my opinion, that is larger than the Wave but follows the same contours. Would look stunning.

I also reckon they should keep the gradiated koru insignia rather than have the koru extend all the way to the back of the tail. Maybe update the typefont used as well.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:06 pm

Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3613786a13,00.html

"An extension of the koru design, by Maori artist Derek Lardelli, would become a background feature throughout the branding, including crew uniforms and the walls behind check-in counters in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch and eventually on the aircraft tails."

"The changeover follows the clock around the world. Some crew on 13 international flights in the air at the time of the changeover will reappear after their rest breaks in their new uniforms."
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3613786a13,00.html

"An extension of the koru design, by Maori artist Derek Lardelli, would become a background feature throughout the branding, including crew uniforms and the walls behind check-in counters in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch and eventually on the aircraft tails."

"The changeover follows the clock around the world. Some crew on 13 international flights in the air at the time of the changeover will reappear after their rest breaks in their new uniforms."

Ooohhh boy...now asid from flying ANZ all over the place, how can I find one of THEM F/A's?
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:10 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Here is a better stuff.co.nz link

I was going to say... all I see is something about some athlete at the Commonwealth games. Could be worse I guess - could be a lawn bowler.  Smile
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:13 pm

Apologies for that. Was a bit rushed at the time.

Sounds kind of reminiscent of the brief PIA scheme a few years back that had a classy floral pattern on the tail. As long as they keep the tail colours bright, I'll be happy.
 
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 3):
As someone who works in them just about daily I don't really find them drab - I do find them subtle and relaxing to the eye. To my mind they're a million percent improvement on the garish blue green and red seat colours they replaced.

Does the new B772ER have this new scheme? If so I found it without impact: no-name, bland. I much preferred the turquoise theme of the old interiors that went way back to the days of TEAL.

Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
new "greenstone" color? Is it basically the color of the new uniforms in that pic on stuff?

The colour of the new uniforms in the pics on stuff.co.nz pics looks more like paua than greenstone.

New tail looks great.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:13 pm

Quoting Antskip (Reply 13):
New tail looks great.



how do you know ....? they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail Big grin
 
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Something a little different is always nice.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:31 pm

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):

how do you know ....? they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail Big grin

Was wondering that meself...  scratchchin 
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
they haven't painted one yet - the photo in the OP is the current tail

Oh my!  blush  No wonder I liked that tail!  biggrin  One of the best around, still. Love the koru. Love the colours.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:50 pm

I must say I haven't seen either of those F/As before Kim Boa, and Nicola Winter. They are both pretty cute tho eh?  Wink

The greenstone background kinda reminds me of AC when they had green with their maple leaf symbol... cept ours is a white koru  Smile
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Quoting NZ1 (Reply 6):

Oh you are sly NZ1, very sly indeed.
Where are they being painted???

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Quoting NZAA (Reply 19):
Where are they being painted???

There is a paint shop at CHC, not sure if thats only for narrow body thou
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I was starting to suspect we would be changing it, when I read it on the intranet . Hopefully it will be a boost for our cause. I'm hoping that the feedback will be more favourable than the uniform was.
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Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 18):
I must say I haven't seen either of those F/As before Kim Boa, and Nicola Winter. They are both pretty cute tho eh?

Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!
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Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!

Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 23):
Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!

Well then, that does it...I'm booked on tomorrow's flight from LAX to AKL. For $6280.20, I've booked meself on Business class on the following:

Tomorrow:
NZ1 LAX-AKL 8:15PM 5:00AM+2 744

March 27:
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This sounds like fun, I can't wait! And now, to get to LAX, I've booked myself on the 810AM out of SLC and into IAH then out to LAX. Some things just never change though...lol.
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 23):
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!

Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!

Alas, I don't fly ANZ as much as I'd like, but when I can, I do and one of the reasons that the cabin staff attitude is so good.

As an aside, I'm excited about the prospect of ANZ flying NZ-Europe via asia. I'll be lining up for that one - esp the premium economy.
 
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Why didn't they decide to paint the tails before the new 777s and Q300s arrived? We now have pretty well brand new A/C already looking at the possibility of tail re-paints? After all when you but a new plane the paint job is all included in the cost,why pay twice?

Would be good if they painted the engine cowls green as well then they will stand out, grey engines are a bit boring.
 
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Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 26):
Would be good if they painted the engine cowls green as well then they will stand out, grey engines are a bit boring.

How about a silver Fern?
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 23):
Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!

I have come across them (no not like that Wink) departing a flight or two...
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:29 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 27):
How about a silver Fern?

I say keep the Koru of course, Maori heritage etc is really important and shouldn't be lost as an icon of this country.

But I would absoloutely love to see NZ bring out a special livery with the Silver Fern! It could look cool with the Star Alliance livery aircraft (since it looks totally boring with just letters on it!)

Why aren't we seeing special liverys for sporting events etc like we have seen a couple in the past?

And is the new greenstone colour on the tail going to match the Pacific Wave on the front of the aircraft???

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Quoting TG990 (Reply 29):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 27):
How about a silver Fern?

I say keep the Koru of course, Maori heritage etc is really important and shouldn't be lost as an icon of this country.

I was talking about on the engine coulings because Kiwiflyer791 said grey engine coulings are boring
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 27):
How about a silver Fern?

That would look pretty ugly in my opinion, just some how cant picture it matching very well
 
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Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 31):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 27):
How about a silver Fern?

That would look pretty ugly in my opinion, just some how cant picture it matching very well

IMO somewhat like the ones on the 2nd LOTR 744.. Didn't look very nice.
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Quoting TG990 (Reply 29):
And is the new greenstone colour on the tail going to match the Pacific Wave on the front of the aircraft???

I think the wave will disappear. I know nothing of the design for sure. Only the hearsay so far.
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 23):
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
Zk, if the airline has more of these angels, and theyre single, lol, then I've just become youre No. 1 fan!

Having flown with both of them it's my pleasure to confirm they're gorgeous people in personality, as well as appearance!

I'm very pleased to hear that! Maybe you could introduce us sometime! PM me  Wink
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I too would like to see something on the engine cowls... a massive silver fern on the a/c would look cool too!  Smile

It does seem a bit wastefull to have several brand new a/c requiring a repaint...

I too like NZ1 knew about this about a month or so ago.. I have the feeling NZ1 has known about this much longer you smooth operator you! haha  Smile
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What's wrong with the current tail? It has a great color and the Maori looks great against the blue-green background.

They need to add some COLOR to that fuselage, change that wimpy typefont and maybe even get rid of that wave. Now we're talking!
 
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New Livery? that's an old news! I saw that Koru didnt have shaded at the right side of the Koru on my B744's fin tail from SFO-AKL in August(with new seats).
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new livey sounds very exciting...will the remaining 744s that are to be refitted
get the new livery??
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Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 36):
New Livery? that's an old news! I saw that Koru didnt have shaded at the right side of the Koru on my B744's fin tail from SFO-AKL in August(with new seats).

I understand the changes are more substanial than that so I don't think what you saw is what is being discussed here.
 
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Quoting 767ER (Reply 37):
new livey sounds very exciting...will the remaining 744s that are to be refitted
get the new livery??

New livery will only happen when a re-paint is due for the aircraft
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Hi I'm a new member. Just two questions. Will all the 767s be repainted? How long do you think it will be before the whole fleet is in the new livery? i quite like the current scheme but some how the subtle variation concept never was that apparent in my mind.
 
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Firstly welcome to a.net Pacific777, hope your enjoy your stay

Quoting Pacific777 (Reply 40):
Will all the 767s be repainted?

All depends on when they are due for a re-paint and when they are leaving the fleet, because the B763s are being retired as each B777 or B787 arrives.

Quoting Pacific777 (Reply 40):
How long do you think it will be before the whole fleet is in the new livery?

Well each new B777/ B787 and Q300s yet to be delivered will arrive with the new tail. One B733 (ZK-NGE) is due for a repaint soon so that will have the new colours. So 2011, the whole fleet will have the new colours

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Quoting Pacific777 (Reply 40):
Hi I'm a new member. Just two questions. Will all the 767s be repainted? How long do you think it will be before the whole fleet is in the new livery? i quite like the current scheme but some how the subtle variation concept never was that apparent in my mind

Welcome to a.net... please have seat backs and tray tables in their upright and locked positions for takeoff.  Smile

The soon to be 5 remaining 763s aren't due to be replaced until the 787s arrive around 2010/11 so I'm sure they will have their tales repainted when they go in for a minor refit (I understand they are having several overhead tv screens fitted, refurbished seats etc).
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Quoting NZAA (Reply 19):
Where are they being painted???

733's and ATR's in CHC, Q300's and B1900D's in GIS or CHC, A320's, B763's, B772's and B744's in AKL, unless thw whole aircraft is being painted. In that case the 763, 772, and 744 normally get done in the USA at Tramco.

Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 26):
Why didn't they decide to paint the tails before the new 777s and Q300s arrived? We now have pretty well brand new A/C already looking at the possibility of tail re-paints? After all when you but a new plane the paint job is all included in the cost,why pay twice?

It doesn't cost that much to repaint the tail. A 744 could be done in 2 - 3 days, a 733 in 36 hours from strip to final coat.

Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 26):
Would be good if they painted the engine cowls green as well then they will stand out, grey engines are a bit boring.

There is still heated discussion happening on whether to paint the cowls. Watch this space.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 34):
I have the feeling NZ1 has known about this much longer you smooth operator you! haha Smile

It ain't worth being fired for letting too many cats out of the bag if you know what I mean.

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 36):
Koru didnt have shaded at the right side of the Koru on my B744's fin tail from SFO-AKL in August(with new seats).

The only 744 with a non-faded Koru is ZK-SUH and it hasn't been re-fitted yet. It is the last to be done in August.

Quoting Pacific777 (Reply 40):
Will all the 767s be repainted?

At this stage yes. The interiors are to upgraded also, though only new seat fabric, carpet, and cosmetic changes only.

Quoting Pacific777 (Reply 40):
How long do you think it will be before the whole fleet is in the new livery?

Up to 3 years before every aircraft is done.

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Quoting NZ1 (Reply 43):
It doesn't cost that much to repaint the tail. A 744 could be done in 2 - 3 days, a 733 in 36 hours from strip to final coat.

Yeah, agree it doesnt cost much, but it does add weight,and our planes aren't exactly light these days next they will be asking staff for ways to save weight on the planes again.

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 43):
There is still heated discussion happening on whether to paint the cowls. Watch this space.

They reckon it would detract from the Pacific Wave, but a basically white tube with abit of gray underneath could be jazzed up a little.

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Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 44):
Yeah, agree it doesnt cost much, but it does add weight,and our planes aren't exactly light these days next they will be asking staff for ways to save weight on the planes again.

No, the paint gets stripped off first, so shouldn't weigh anymore... you are right about our planes being heavy though. They are heavy per seat (since we don't sardine can pax), but aren't the heaviest around. The main thing with the 747's is the configuration we have onboard. The Business Premier seats are heavier than most others, and by having lavs at the rear rather than galleys, our 747s are slightly nose heavier now than others.
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Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 44):
Yeah, agree it doesnt cost much, but it does add weight

It won't add weight because the old paint is fully stripped off first, with exception of any composite areas which will be sanded back. Plus there won't be the extra layer where the two current colours overlap.

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Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 44):
They reckon it would detract from the Pacific Wave,

is the wave staying ? I had the impression that it has been a troublesome feature of the livery since it was introduced - weren't there a lot of problems with it peeling off ?
 
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 47):
is the wave staying ? I had the impression that it has been a troublesome feature of the livery since it was introduced - weren't there a lot of problems with it peeling off ?

Yeah, they have had issues with the fuse having cut marks made in it around lap joints when the decals were installed.

The A/C when they have been cycling thru there upgrade programme and the 767 thru their "C" checks have been having permanent repairs carried out and then the wave has been painted on instead of stickers. The exeption to that is NBU which is going to have a complete re-paint later this year.
 
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Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 35):
change that wimpy typefont

Couldn't agree more!! Something about it just screams out "Wuss!"

Though you have to wonder, with a significantly reduced profit of late, is this really such a good time to do this? There is a cost associated and when they're trying to cut staff and supposedly save on costs, it does seem a little extravagant and poorly timed.

Are the people who agreed to the used-dishcloth uniforms and bland interior colours be the same ones who will be having the final say in the livery change? I wouldn't be surprised, but I sincerely hope not.

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