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How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:08 pm

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1022381/m

just a quick question, how does the air nz 767 (beside the korean air 747) push back and taxi given the position it is in, would it back all the way out?

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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:19 pm

I dont think thats an NZ 767. The tail looks more Mexicana to me ?
 
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:29 pm

Quoting Parisien (Reply 1):
The tail looks more Mexicana to me ?

Yes it is the new MX C/S.

Quoting ZKNSJ (Thread starter):
would it back all the way out?

That's what I saw when I was in LAX. And I remember that aircraft have to be towed into this precise parking position, as well as in the other side of the terminal.

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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:37 pm

Well, @ LHR last year or the year before i was on a BD B735. We were at the very end stand, but T1 wasn't all that bust wehn we departed. We were pushed back and we turned as if we were going to get pushed all the way out, but we were pushed back into an empty gate. We taxied out from their.

But there are too many a/c in their for that MX B757 to do that.

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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:07 pm

It would be pushed back by tug along the line the KE 777 is on, and either reversed into the vacant gate that KE is leaving, or more likely would be pushed backwards out until it was in a position to pushforward under power at the end of the pier (out of sight)
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:12 pm

I was looking at that pic a few hours ago and couldn't work out what airline the B763 was.
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:14 pm

or the AA 777 for that matter....it's not as bad as the case in mind but still in quite close proximity to the buildings, not much room for error

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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:50 pm

My personal opinion is that the push-back would push the airplane out to approx. where the KAL 777 is. Now, with the a/c in the middle of the taxi-way and backwards, the push-back would rotate the a/c 180 degress, now the nose is facing correct direction, and the plane can taxi out. I see this procedure done all the time with FedEx 727s at end gates in MEM.
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:54 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):
I was looking at that pic a few hours ago and couldn't work out what airline the B763 was.

Is that really a B763? Looks like B752 to me...

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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:54 am

I live in LA and have witnessed tons of pushbacks at LAX. As for that Mexicana, it would be pushed backwards as far as necessary. Sometimes planes are pushed all the way to the taxiway and sometimes they are turned 180 degrees while still in between the terminals. Often times large aircraft, upon arrival, will pull up just off the taxiway, between terminals, shut down the engines, and sit and wait for a tug to tow them into the gate. On the other side, at terminal 1, Southwest has a gate which places one plane towards World Way, facing the entrance road, between the parking lot and terminal 1. That plane has to be pushed back about half way out and turned 180 degrees to face the runway. As a matter of fact, most of the gates that are located close in like that have similar procedures.
 
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:40 am

sorry, it could be a 752, i only said 763 because it looked like an air nz aircraft, but clicking on the larger picture shows it not to be
 
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:43 pm

I've seen an AF 777 parked at that poistion. What they do is push it back all the way untill they pass the heavy gates then turn it 90* facing the AA gates. Those TBIT gates are very tight and what they do is make the heavy planes turn off the engines on the line then they tow the aircraft to the gates.
 
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:06 pm

they push the aircraft onto charlie facing east. biggest a/c i've ever seen at that gate is a Varig MD-11.
 
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:32 pm

Quoting Memphis (Reply 7):
My personal opinion is that the push-back would push the airplane out to approx. where the KAL 777 is. Now, with the a/c in the middle of the taxi-way and backwards, the push-back would rotate the a/c 180 degress, now the nose is facing correct direction, and the plane can taxi out.

This is how they do it. Happens all over LAX.

Quoting Wilax (Reply 9):
Often times large aircraft, upon arrival, will pull up just off the taxiway, between terminals, shut down the engines, and sit and wait for a tug to tow them into the gate.

Yes, but it's more than oftentimes. It's every time at certain gates, and never at other gates. The gates closest to terminals are called "tow in gates" and at T6, for example, they are 60, 61 and 62. Not sure about 63 as it isn't as close to the building as 62. The captain makes an announcement to not get up until he says so, then the engines go off and a tug pulls you the rest of the way in. Adds about 1-2 min to arrival times, not too significant.
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:27 pm

Quoting Tjc2 (Reply 6):
or the AA 777 for that matter....it's not as bad as the case in mind but still in quite close proximity to the buildings, not much room for error

Yes, I've left from the gate that the AA 777 is parked in. QF 12 to SYD often leaves from that gate. We pushed all the way out from that gate, and I'd imagine that's what this 763 does too.
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:43 pm

Likely to be pushed back on to the vacant Stand adjacent to it & pulled fwd to face the taxi position the Aircraft on the center line is.
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RE: How Does This Aircraft Push Back And Taxi?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:45 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
Quoting Memphis (Reply 7):
My personal opinion is that the push-back would push the airplane out to approx. where the KAL 777 is. Now, with the a/c in the middle of the taxi-way and backwards, the push-back would rotate the a/c 180 degress, now the nose is facing correct direction, and the plane can taxi out.

This is how they do it. Happens all over LAX.

no... they push the aircraft onto charlie facing east.