iwok
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Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:36 pm

Well,

its not like the bonanza times of last year. So far we are way below last year's impressive rate, and it appears that there are not too many big battles this year. Maybe next year will be another good year; another round of US carriers placing orders, LH, BA, EK as well most likely.

From www.jusplanes.com

Airbus 2006 Orders

Yemenia: 6x A350
GoAir: 10x A320
Frontier: 10x A320, 4x A318, -8x A319
British Airways: 1x A320, 3x A321
Hamburg Internatl: 14x A319
Aer Lingus: 2x A330
ILFC: 2x A350-800, 2x A350-900
Volaris: 16x A319
Air One: 30x A320


Boeing 2006 Orders

Cargolux: 2x B747-400F
Kenya Airways: 6x B787-800
GOL: 2x B737-800
Spicejet: 5x B737-800, 5x B737-900ER
Aeromexico: 3x B737-700, 3x B737-800
AirTran: 1x B737
Southwest: 2x B737
Air China: 10x B737-800
Hainan Ailines: 4x B737
Shandong Airlines: 6x B737
Air India: 3x B777-200LR, 5x B777-300ER, 7x B787-800

Looks like a repeat of last year, albeit at lower volumes.

A317,8,9,20,21 out selling the 737 by almost 2:1
Boeing widesbodies outselling Airbus widebodies almost 2:1

Noteables:
1) 5x737-900ER for Spicejet. Good to see more of them being sold.  cheerful 
2) Gradma 744 continues to sell. Impressive!  checkmark 
3) Baby bus family selling like hot bananas!  eyepopping 
4) Once again, solid 787-T7 performance.  checkeredflag 

My highly expert airchair-CEO views on this:
a) 737 replacement becoming a very very hot topic. I know everyone is still waiting for the new engine technology to become available, but I wonder how long the 737 will hold out. Boeing will need to move sooner that they current think on this model; wait to long and there will be others like Embraer to contend with.

b) A300, 310, 340 replacements needed ASAP! Create a modern fuselage, and redo the whole single deck double isle design. Not making the right decision, and designing the 350 around an obsolete airframe COULD prove to be the death, if not near death of Airbus. If BCA kicks off the 797 ATO this year, Airbus is going to need to move double quick on the midsize market. BIG BIG issue,

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ikramerica
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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:45 pm

Wasn't last winter kind of slow, too?
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iwok
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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:56 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Wasn't last winter kind of slow, too?

Sort of, but it was definately cooking by this time last year. There were large 737 and 787 orders. Last year was a great year for sales.

2005 orders

I predict this year will be a good year for strategery; final 350 configuration, 748i orders and more news on the 797...

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Hamlet69
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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:57 pm

Just a word of advice, never trust Justplanes.com for order information. They have a hard time keeping their years straight. For instance:

Quoting Iwok (Thread starter):
British Airways: 1x A320, 3x A321
Hamburg Internatl: 14x A319



Quoting Iwok (Thread starter):
Volaris: 16x A319



Quoting Iwok (Thread starter):
Air One: 30x A320



Quoting Iwok (Thread starter):
Air India: 3x B777-200LR, 5x B777-300ER, 7x B787-800

All booked last year!! (and don't get me started on them calling it the "787-800")  sarcastic 


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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:03 pm

Justplanes is about the worst source there is, as pointed out by Hamlet in reply 3. If you have enough time on your hands have a look at last year orders page on their websit... you'll see even more evidence of how badly informed they are.
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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:07 pm

Quoting Iwok (Thread starter):
A317,8,9,20,21 out selling the 737 by almost 2:1

Pretty good for a plane that doesn't even exist  Wink
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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:25 am

Everyone, thanks for posting to this thread. I was hoping to have a repeat of the famous "defeaning silence" threads from last year, but it appears as though my sources used to ingite the discussion are unreliable.  Sad

Deafening silence on 380 tests

There was also a "Deafening silence on 787 progress" as well, but I cannot find it. It might be because the poster is no longer with us?

I'll get real sources next time I try this.

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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting Iwok (Reply 6):
but it appears as though my sources used to ingite the discussion are unreliable

Not to sound too presumptuous, but have you tried looking here:  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2554175/


Regards,

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RE: Deafening Silence On The Orders Front!

Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:43 pm

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 7):
Not to sound too presumptuous, but have you tried looking here: Wink

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2554175/

Indeed! An excellent source. Thanks Hamlet69!