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Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:02 am

I tried doing a search on this and I really couldn't come up with anything, so I turn to the legions with my question.

I'm curious to know: do any cruciform runway configurations exist anywhere in the world?

By cruciform, I mean a geometric cross: two lines bisecting each other at a 90 degree angle. I'm more interested in the addition-sign (+) kind than the more commonly-thought of Christian obelus (†) interpretation.

As a bonus, do any actually fall on the four cardinal compass points?

Any light that can be shed on this will be most appreciated.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:10 am

Well, LGA for one has two runways (and only 2) which form an X.


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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:13 am

How about MDW?

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:13 am

BUR is very close.

Runways are basically a cross. Despite their runway numbers, 1 is E-W, the other is 10 degrees of N-S.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:15 am

BHX, although I think the crosswind runway is now obsolete. What about Bournmouth.
 
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:18 am

If i'm understanding this right I would say SFO, YYC, YHZ have these runway configs in some way.
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:20 am

Check out Cecil Field (KVQQ) near Jacksonville... They have two sets of 9/27 and 18/36 runways crossing each other

 
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:22 am

Do they have to be commercial airports? There are hundreds of general aviation airports in the U.S. alone that have runways that intersect at 90 degrees. It used to be quite common to have a "crosswind runway" so that planes could always take off and land pretty much into the wind.
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:30 am

Continuing the search...

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:33 am

Flying Cloud, FCM has two east-west runways and one north south.
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:33 am

pretty sure SAV has 18/36 and 9/27, too. I'd look it up, but I gotta run!!
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:41 am

Many thanks to one and all for the flurry of responses.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 2):
Not exactly what you want...but close...enough...for government work... Wink

Haha, no no, both are excellent examples. Many thanks for pulling 'em out!

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 7):
Do they have to be commercial airports?

Nope, not at all. The more the merrier, lol.

Quoting Poitin (Reply 9):
Flying Cloud, FCM has two east-west runways and one north south.

Awesome. I figured that the percentages were in favor of this occurring, but one never knows.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:46 am

FAR has a 18-36 and a 9-27. Also a 15-33.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:09 am




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...And good 'ol 2H4. Ironically, despite having lived only a few miles from the airport, I didn't realize the identifier was 2H4 until after registering my username.  biggrin 






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Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:13 am

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:37 am

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Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:50 am


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not a cruciform, but i always thought DEN looked like a swastika, and have seen it from the air many many times flying to/from SLC

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:50 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 13):
...And good 'ol 2H4. Ironically, despite having lived only a few miles from the airport, I didn't realize the identifier was 2H4 until after registering my username. biggrin

Lol. I love how it's a grass field too. Ahh, takes you back, don't it?

After looking at all the airports noted, I saw that BHX and GRR were obelus in pattern; YHZ and GSO resemble a capital "T"; and MDW and 2H4 make great Greek crosses (your standard "+"), with a few of SFO's runways representative, too.

YYC is most interesting in its own right, as it's almost a backwards Slavonic cross; it's just missing one short cross piece. What's more, some of those airports that are x-ish make great saltires on the landscape.

I'm amazed that there are several N/S-E/W airports out there. What's more, I never realized I regularly flew into one of 'em (CVG)!

I realize that runways crossing and intersecting each other is a pretty standard affair, but as a kid, I remember that many books, movies, and pictures pretty consistently depicted airports in a cruciform manner, and I was never sure if this ever carried over to the real world.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:17 am

FWA (my hometown airport) has two intersecting runways:

*5/23
*14/32


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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:38 am

Oh, I forgot about DVC That is Da Vinci Code; it is a small airport somewhere between Heaven and Hell. It has a true cruciform runway Big grin
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:56 am

But as to the original question, no, I can't think of an airport that currently has a pair of runways that are perpendicular bisectors of each other. Offhand I don't know of an airport in the past, either, but I'll look a bit.
 
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:21 pm

HAM has two intersecting runways, RW 05/23 and 15/33.

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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:40 am

IND was like this until the 70s or 80s:



Before that, what is marked "X X X" in the above diagram was an active runway, and 5/23 L/R were not built.
 
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RE: Do Any Cruciform Runway Configs. Exist?

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:50 am

Reno/Cannon does as well.
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