mikesairways
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Airlines In National Emergencies

Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:42 pm

I had a question and maybe someone can clarify this - but like in the case of Katrina or any other national disaster, can the government "order" air carriers to provide transportation for a mass evacuation?

During Katrina, there was a lot of press about how airlines were sending planes to MSY - and somebody had to pay for those trips, right? So my question is did the airlines really "donate" the equipment/fuel or were they compelled by the government, and if so, does FEMA compensate the airlines?
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werdywerd
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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:00 pm

The info I got was that it was payed for by FEMA.
 
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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:03 pm

I know that when Air Canada donated the A321, they did so of their own free will. President Bush even acknowledged the airline by name on national television after the flights had been completed.

Air Canada was given money for its fuel, but that was it. The entire cabin crew and all the supplies were donated. Not cheap considering you had the CEO of ACE helping out. Futhermore, the airline received no compensation for adding hours to its frame, nor for any maintenance costs.

Did it cost the airline much? Not really, because the airplane was probably sitting idle anyways. Was it a required gesture? Nope, but it sure was a good deed.

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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:39 pm

The UK provided a free RAF flight with over 100k food packs and engineers

which was later thrown away without being distributed.

We got no thanks for that either.
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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:57 pm

when tsunami hit southeast asia in 2004 , SAS sent few of their planes to Thailand to bring home injured and stranded scandinavians.Some of teh planes were equiped with strechers.
I am not suyre on this, but i think that if there is a national disaster SAS has to provide few of its planes to help.some of them can be trassformed to medical plaes. Ie, they put in strechers onboard and so on.

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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:42 am

Back in 1991, when the Iraq war broke out, thousands of Indian workers in that country had to be evacuated....both AI and IC operated several ferry flights to pick up stranded Indian from both Kuwait and Iraq....I think the pickup points were in Jordan and Saudi, not sure.....but more than 100 flights were operated within the span of a few weeks....
 
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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:39 am

I can't remember correctly, but I believe there is a portion in the FAR's indicating that should the government need an a/c, they can ask for it. We sent a/c down to MSY and did flights to various cities while dropping off relief supplies to our MSY based crewmembers.
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heisan67
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RE: Airlines In National Emergencies

Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:35 am

Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 4):
when tsunami hit southeast asia in 2004 , SAS sent few of their planes to Thailand to bring home injured and stranded scandinavians.Some of teh planes were equiped with strechers.
I am not suyre on this, but i think that if there is a national disaster SAS has to provide few of its planes to help.some of them can be trassformed to medical plaes. Ie, they put in strechers onboard and so on.

In Norway, SAS Braathens have signed an agreement with the authorities which state that they may change 2 Boeing 737 to emergency "hospital" airplane included stretches.
SAS Braathens flew from Oslo, Norway to Phuket, Thailand in order to get wounded Danes, Swedes and Norwegians back home. From what I remember it was a B737-700 carrying wounded from all three countries.
I would guess the government picked up the bill  Smile