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Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:23 am

The other day I was sitting on a 732 about to depart JNB for DUR and it was pouring with rain. I watched the rampers running around in their wetsuits and wondered: why no covered aprons? I'm not going to elaborate on the form it could take, but has anyone ever considered it in airport design?
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:25 am

Would the exhaust fumes from the engines be too much of a health hazard? I'm just guessing here..
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:27 am

you've never been to Tempelhof then ?
 
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:30 am

Gates 1,2,3 and some of gate 18 are partially covered at Terminal 3 in JFK. I thinks it's more on the lines of ramp agents have the least respected job in the industry.
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:33 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
you've never been to Tempelhof then ?

I was going to say the same thing.... I believe Phoenix or Vegas considered such an option (Canopy) but because of frequent air pressure inversions on a regular basis it was deemed to be unhealthy.
 
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:35 am

Yeah...Tempelhof and the old Pan Am terminal at JFK....


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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:38 am

I didn't know about those two, good pics!
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
why no covered aprons?

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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:41 am

I guess their argument against building it into modern airports is that jetways do the same job

... not that that helps the ground crew!
 
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:41 am

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
The other day I was sitting on a 732 about to depart JNB for DUR and it was pouring with rain. I watched the rampers running around in their wetsuits and wondered: why no covered aprons? I'm not going to elaborate on the form it could take, but has anyone ever considered it in airport design?

I think the basic reason is that there are too many variables involved as far as aircraft dimensions go. If an airport builds something, it's a fixed size, and while it might serve some aircraft today, it may not serve other larger aircraft should they someday decide to serve the airport. Bottom-line, such construction is too limiting. Better (and much cheaper) to let the rampers wear raingear on the the few occasions that it does indeed rain...
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:33 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 9):
Better (and much cheaper) to let the rampers wear raingear on the the few occasions that it does indeed rain...

Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

True, and I recall that from my past ramp days as well, but my comment was in the context of raingear versus the airport building some type of structure that may/may not meet future needs.

(Worst part was hot day after rain quit--instant sauna!)
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

Point well taken GQfluffy. Of course, when the company you work for doesn't GIVE you raingear it makes it worse. I always liked snow better than rain anyway, at least on the ramp.
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 10):
Alot of good it does. On days when I get up, look outside, and see rain or snow...I forego the shower before work. No point to it...just gonna get soaked later.

Here in Nashville it rains most during spring and summer... hot days, so you're just going to get wet from sweating fi you wear the raingear, or wet from the rain if you don't... Much easier to choose during the winter, because the raingear adds a layer of wind protection.

I had actually thought about this as an idea for an airport design, should I ever get to design one, and decided that it would be a hard sell because of how large it would have to be.
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:14 am

And the roofing or canopy would likely disappear during the next hurricane or typhoon.
 
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RE: Why No Covered Aprons?

Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 11):
(Worst part was hot day after rain quit--instant sauna!)

Oh god, we won't even go there. Those are the days you just keep drinking water...even if you gotta pee every 10 minutes..because you'll get dehydrated quicker then...well...you get my drift.

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I always liked snow better than rain anyway

Snow is easier to dress for, but with the de-ice equipment we ( GQ ) have in BIL, it makes ops a nightmare. Give me rain over snow any day...

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