ba757gla
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Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:22 am

Hi iam a new a netter but have have been a reader for 5 years. Glasgow looking healthy despite lack of full service links. edinburgh small terminal for an ever important airport,ABZ possible CO 73G to EWR/IAH and invrness flybe expansion hopefully. your thoughts/rumors/suggestions
 
Humberside
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:40 am

Heres some developments this year

EDI

DL to ATL
Centralwings to Katwoice/Gdansk
BA Connect to HAM
Sterling to HEL
Finnair to HEL
SkyEurope to Krakow
Easyjet to ALC (weekly)
GSM to Pula, Murcia (and some other destinations as well)

GLA

GSM to Orlando Sanford (and some other destinations as well)
Easyjet to ALC, AGP, SXF, PMI

PIK

Wizz Air to WAW/Gdansk
Transavia to AMS
FR to Reus/Wroclaw/Marseilles

ABZ

Eastern to CWL

INV

Aer Arran to DUB

Sumburgh

Atlantic Airways to the Faroe Islands and STN
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GLAGAZ
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:51 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
GLA

GSM to Orlando Sanford (and some other destinations as well)
Easyjet to ALC, AGP, SXF, PMI

GLA this Summer compared to last (new routes):

Air Berlin - Stansted
BMI Baby - Cardiff
easyJet - Alicante
easyJet - Berlin
easyJet - Malaga
easyJet - Palma
Emirates - Upgrade from A332 - 77W
flyBE - Exeter goes 2x daily
flyBE - A 5th daily flight to Southampton
flyGlobespan - Amsterdam
flyGlobespan - Athens
flyGlobespan - Heraklion
flyGlobespan - Ibiza
flyGlobespan - Mahon
flyGlobespan - Orlando
flyGlobespan - Pula
MyTravel - Las Vegas
Pakistan Int. Airlines - Islamabad
Pakistan Intl. Airlines - Lahore
ThomasCook - Increase YYZ to daily
Tomsonfly - 5x weekly to Palma
Zoom - Increase YYZ to 3x weekly

Thats the majority of the news I think....

Acknowledgements to the GLA google group for some help there  Wink

There are rumours of EZY expansion to Paris, Madrid, Milan and Barcelona if the new Berlin route does well.

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ba757gla
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:52 am

SUM-STN is that a normal sche flight i would like to see SUM -LGW with BA Connect. what happened to GLA/EDI-ABZ flights pointless really
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:55 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 3):
i would like to see SUM -LGW with BA Connect.

I dont think that will happen. Its far more likely that BA will have nothing to do with Shetland in the future. There is talk Loganair will end their BA franchise

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 3):
SUM-STN is that a normal sche flight

Yes, and its doing very well
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ScottishLaddie
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
EDI

DL to ATL
Centralwings to Katwoice/Gdansk
BA Connect to HAM
Sterling to HEL
Finnair to HEL
SkyEurope to Krakow
Easyjet to ALC (weekly)
GSM to Pula, Murcia (and some other destinations as well)

That's pretty much it, just a few additions to your list.

Aer Lingus- A couple of extra flights per week.

easyJet- 1x weekly ALC, 4x weekly GVA.

Sterling- CPH to 6x weekly and 2x weekly HEL

Continental- Going to 11x weekly.

Delta- Daily ATL.

Flyglobespan- Weekly IBZ, MAH, PUY. Daily FAO, MJV

Flybe- 2/3x daily NWI, daily Jersey, 3x weekly NQY.

Centralwings- 3x weekly Gdansk, 3x weekly Katowice, 5x weekly WAW

Finnair- 2x weekly HEL

SkyEurope- 3x weekly Krakow

Wideroe- 4x weekly BGO

Jet2- 2x up to 5x weekly MJV, 1x weekly Pisa

BA Connect- 3x weekly HAM

Think that's it, there's so much been added I might have lost track.  Wink
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:40 am

I know CO have been happy with the GLA and EDI to EWK performances. I'd like to see AA get in on the act and try out a EDI-JFK. AA have been reluctant to extend their GLA-ORD beyond Summer only.. maybe this could be an option for them, or maybe EDI-BOS? Any thoughts?

I'd really like to see BA jump on the Scotland-US or Canada bandwagon. I know that they want to feed all longhaul through LHR and LGW, but there's definately a market for Scottish routes. With Calgary being a boom town for oil, surely there's an affinity there to get a Calgary route with a UK scheduled operator back too, since AC don't seem to be interested.

I've also been hearing comments that Virgin desperately want to get some GLA operation up and running - any thoughts on where to?
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Damian
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:47 pm

Has there been any further news on EK and Scottish expansion? A few months ago we were told they were actively considering either a second daily GLA flight or a possible new service from EDI.

Also, what other potential long haul services heading eastwards might we see from Scottish airports in the near future? I notice Etihad were advertising their MAN-AUH service in The Scotsman newspaper a few days ago. Might they be a possible new carrier for Scotland? And how about Qatar or Singapore Airlines?
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:44 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
INV

Aer Arran to DUB

Eastern Airways are also starting a new daily (ex Sat) INV-LBA service with a J41, whilst their INV-MAN route is being upgraded from a J41 to a Saab 2000
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:44 pm

Quoting TCXDegsy (Reply 6):
I'd like to see AA get in on the act and try out a EDI-JFK.

Probably more chance of a DL service if EDI-ATL is a success than AA starting the route

Quoting TCXDegsy (Reply 6):
AA have been reluctant to extend their GLA-ORD beyond Summer only.. maybe this could be an option for them, or maybe EDI-BOS? Any thoughts?

Im sure a Scotland-BOS route would work. If not AA then maybe GSM or even US?

Quoting TCXDegsy (Reply 6):
I've also been hearing comments that Virgin desperately want to get some GLA operation up and running - any thoughts on where to?

Orlando most probably. I would expect any GLA operation to be similar to MAN but on a smaller scale

Quoting Damian (Reply 7):
I notice Etihad were advertising their MAN-AUH service in The Scotsman newspaper a few days ago. Might they be a possible new carrier for Scotland? And how about Qatar or Singapore Airlines?

By the end of the decade I would expect a service from either Ethiad, Qatar or Gulf Auir to either EDI or GLA
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
There is talk Loganair will end their BA franchise

Is there ? Dont think so.....I can assure you- Loganair are extremely happy with their current arrangement.
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:23 pm

Quoting BY738 (Reply 10):
Quoting Humberside (Reply 4):
There is talk Loganair will end their BA franchise

Is there ? Dont think so.....I can assure you- Loganair are extremely happy with their current arrangement.

http://www.taxiwayalpha.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2598
http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=468162006

Heres a quote from the article

Quote:
But Scott Grier, Loganair's chairman, believes time might be running out for the franchise because the arrangement may not be as mutually beneficial today as it was in 1994, when the Scottish airline's then-owner, British Midland, originally signed the deal.

Grier, who led a management buyout of Loganair in 1997, said BA's corporate strategy was changing under the rule of chief executive Willie Walsh, who joined in October.

He said: "Willie Walsh has been in business for about six months. We have not had the opportunity to meet him. That's a bit of a disappointment, but he's facing a lot of challenges.

"The BA franchise was critical to our getting started. As time has gone on, we have changed and they have changed. It may be the changes mean BA is less of an opportunity [for us] than it has been.

"[If the franchise ends] there are two options - we stand on our own two feet as an independent company, or we look to enter some other agreement with another major player. This is a big decision for the company. We have to weigh up the risks."
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by738
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:39 pm

That agreement was renewed for a 5-year period earlier this year. The company is headquartered at Glasgow Airport and has a payroll of 210.

Today's agreement - which will see the company lease five additional aircraft - also extends the Scottish external network

We are half-way through the current five-year relationship. When the time comes, we will sit down with them
As an affiliated member of oneworld, Loganair’s reach becomes truly global
The BA deal is advantageous for them in terms of profile and you would assume it is commercially advantageous
The franchise agreement isnt going to change. Loganair is now profitable having been in the red prior to the agreement. Passenger numbers are up and they have have much more streamlined modern fleet. Theadvantages of being part of the franchise are just overwhelming. The mention of withdrawing is tactical business sense- nothing more.
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:53 pm

I'll just stick some GLA rumours in for the sake of it  Smile

US year round 757 to PHL
AA year round 757 to BOS
EK increase to 2x daily
PK to send 777's to GLA
AI have slots but apparently don't intend anything...
Y2 (GSM) to CPT
LH to FRA
DL to JFK/ATL
QR to DOH

Gaz
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Damian
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:13 pm

And some EDI rumours too, to keep the balance ...  Wink

AA to BOS
Delta to JFK or CVG (this suggestion from DL themselves)
Jet 2 to TFS
Emirates to DXB
Sky Europe to Bratislava
Iberia to Madrid
Malev to Budapest
Sterling - Oslo
Flyglobespan - restoration of PRG
BA Connect - DUS

Plus EZY are rumoured to be considering further EDI expansion in the latter half of 2006.
 
bmie70
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:44 pm

There is the expansion of the terminal at EDI with a new building serving the current remote stands to the east of the terminal.

Does anyone know which airlines will use this building? Will it have jetways or just ground level doors? The BAA press release from July last year states that it will have 5 boarding gates and 1 coaching gate.
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:31 pm

The fact that the Emirates CPH service has been deferred until further notice makes another high density A330-200 available in October 2006. It looks like they will use this aircraft to boost frequency than add another destination. I would say front runners are likely to be either a 2nd daily GLA or a 3rd daily MAN. There is also a chance that the aircraft could be used for extra flights to Northern Pakistan but this is subject to outcome of the bilateral negotiations. Other possibilities are more flights to Asia -- Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok and Hong Kong.

Rgds
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:41 am

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 16):
The fact that the Emirates CPH service has been deferred until further notice makes another high density A330-200 available in October 2006. It looks like they will use this aircraft to boost frequency than add another destination. I would say front runners are likely to be either a 2nd daily GLA or a 3rd daily MAN. There is also a chance that the aircraft could be used for extra flights to Northern Pakistan but this is subject to outcome of the bilateral negotiations. Other possibilities are more flights to Asia -- Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok and Hong Kong.

Rgds
Emirates777

Any idea when we will know?

Gaz
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:42 am

Some ABZ news now. Apparently city star are looking to add 4 new routes.

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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:14 am

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 18):
Apparently city star are looking to add 4 new routes.

These may well include LCY and KEF
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ba757gla
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:12 am

Will the 767 return on the CO GLA-EWR route? what about a summer only ryanaiR PIK-BLK and BE GLA-NQY I THINK THEY COULD WORK
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting BMIE70 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know which airlines will use this building? Will it have jetways or just ground level doors? The BAA press release from July last year states that it will have 5 boarding gates and 1 coaching gate.


No airbridges don't think any specific airlines will be using it, probably much the same as just now, expected to be finished August at the earliest.
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:20 pm

I gather the new pier at EDI will be used initially by domestic services, though BAA is leaving the option open to convert the pier to international useage if required in the future. Air bridges can also be added later if deemed necessary.
 
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:42 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 20):
Will the 767 return on the CO GLA-EWR route?

Unlikely on a regular basis. CO need their B767's for routes that are too long for the B757. The only eexception might be if there was strong cargo demand
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RE: Scottish Airport News

Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:33 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 23):
The only eexception might be if there was strong cargo demand

For this very reason BAA and cargo operators are very keen for the return of the 767 on the GLA-EWR route. The huge rise in cargo transport during the previous period of 767 ops is testimont to that.