xen
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BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:33 am

I note that 4 of BA's short haul 767 fleet have been given the club world flat bed seats and upgraded to fly long haul. What is the future for the remaining short hauls ?

There must be a limited short haul market for them albeit they're useful on the longest European flights (the double daily to Moscow, two of the flights to Athens, a daily service to Larnaca) where the real difference in space in Club Europe makes the journey noticeably more comfortable (particularly if you're booked in economy and Club's not busy). Frankfurt, with its business market, gets two 767 services a day, not sure where else gets them but given that remaining European routes have high frequency would the 767s be more profitable on lower density India, Middle East, Africa and East Coast USA routes ?
 
highflyer9790
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:56 am

All i know is that in BAs future long-haul replacement plan, they may be replaced by the 787...
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boeingfanyyz
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:52 pm

Yah, I was wondering why BA have started using their 763's for the YYZ-LHR route during the summer. Perhaps it's because of the huge cost of ramp fees at YYZ, but I'm not really sure.

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louA340
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:59 pm

How long does BA plan to keep their 767's? I presume that since they have upgraded the interior of the aircrafts that they will be around for quite a while.
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FlyDeltaJets
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:28 pm

I remeber when I used to do BA 1503 that seemed like it had to be the oldest 767 ever. It was the same plane every day too. G-BNWH
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mutu
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:39 pm

short term capacity increases in long haul are being acheived through switching 70% of the 767 fleet to long haul with NCW flat beds and WTP. Dusking is ongoing. This fleet will then be utilised on light days on certain east coast routes (as the third YYZ on certain days) although it appears EWR is switching one frequency to a 767 to release a T7 for India/China. THis is all about profit maximisation in the absence of new aircraft deliveries and has been discussed
 
Tristarsteve
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:31 pm

At ARN we get a daily B767, it is on the route for the freight. Carries 10-12tons each way. The B767 is the only pallet freighter on BA European routes.
(BA 767 have the optional front large cargo door).
The B767 are to remain in service for about 5 years. There is no plan to convert any more to longhaul after NWC and NWD are coverted in May/June.
 
monkeyboi
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:02 am

The 767 also does a daily FCO rotation as well.

Also IST daily.

The 767 isn't fixed on any particular short haul route though.
 
vv701
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:22 am

Remember that BA have several 763s on lease to QF. When they are returned they could be added to the BA short haul and / or long haul fleets.
 
MYT332
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:38 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 4):
I remeber when I used to do BA 1503 that seemed like it had to be the oldest 767 ever. It was the same plane every day too. G-BNWH

She is being dusked at the moment in LGW so should be up to spec soon. At the moment BA1503 is operated by G-BNWR previously BNWD and BNWO. BNWH should be back soon though with Club World, World Traveller + and World Traveller with PTV's of course.
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DavidT
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:49 am

I thought NWH was done in Jan?
 
EurofleetLHR
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:12 am

As all the longhaul 767's now all have the same configurations, it is no longer necessary to have 'NWH based at MAN (she was fitted in a unique configuartion until the end of 2005),There are no plans to have a dedicated 767 for the MAN-JFK route,and as all 767s (including 'NWH) are now Heathrow based, they will be rotated around the fleet. Though I somehow suspect some will operate the route more than others, and 'NWH may appear on the route again !!!!
 
MYT332
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RE: BA 767 Future

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:22 am

Quoting EurofleetLHR (Reply 11):
There are no plans to have a dedicated 767 for the MAN-JFK route

You know that's exactly was I was originally told but the day WH went down to LGW I got talking to her dispatcher for the flight and he assured me it was coming back? I'll trust you on the matter though considering the fact I just looked up that she operated BA0078 ACC-LHR on the 30th March. Oh well, we've lost a legend.  Wink
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