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Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:27 am

Air New Zealand will introduce services on two new routes linking Nelson directly with Hamilton and Palmerston North on weekdays and Sundays, effective 26 April.

The non-stop services will be operated by Air New Zealand Link airline, Eagle Air using a 19 seat Beech1900 aircraft.


http://www.airnz.co.nz/aboutus/media...w_service_links_nelson_24mar06.htm
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:35 am

I really wouldn't have imagined there'd be THAT much demand for daily services between such small ports.. obviously I'm wrong, or time will tell.

Bare in mind OriginPacific also operate these two routes.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:44 am

Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one? Oamaru springs to mind. I remember Wanaka got one a couple of years back but what about some where else. There can't be too many, if any places left NZ could start a service to.

The Chatham Islands could do with one. I was amazed when I found out how much it costs to fly there, cheapest being $600 approx.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):

What a crazy comment!!! Why would NZ want to service the Chatman Islands? Its hardly Club Med territory. ROTFPMSL.
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one? Oamaru springs to mind

How small is Oamaru? Couldn't you fly the whole population out in just a couple of Q300s?

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
The Chatham Islands could do with one

The majority of Chatham Island demand is freight-related, hence NZ really isn't geared up to deal with this or offer such a service.

There is very little tourist demand for travel to / from the Chathams, hence what Air Chathams offer with their Convairs works perfectly - a link for the few islanders each week that want to get to / from the mainland, as well as supplies / freight.

NZ really don't need to get involved here as I don't see any money to be made for them from it.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:26 pm

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 4):
How small is Oamaru? Couldn't you fly the whole population out in just a couple of Q300s?

Not quite but I mentioned it as they had a service back in the day. I think it was direct from Wellington, maybe an F27 and then something after that.

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 4):

NZ really don't need to get involved here as I don't see any money to be made for them from it.

I was just commenting on how much it costs. My thought was that NZ with their experience might make a passenger service more affordable.

I'd better be careful with my random thoughts as people might think I'm connected to this guy:

Quoting Pulkovokiwi (Reply 3):
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:37 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
The Chatham Islands could do with one. I was amazed when I found out how much it costs to fly there, cheapest being $600 approx.

Most of the demand is from the Chathams. However NZ used to operate there in competition with Air Chathams, but the support for the local carrier by the locals was so strong that NZ had to pull off the route.

Still, for those out there who want to fly on a Convair, you still can here in New Zealand.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:48 pm

Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

The HLZ/PMR to NSN routes will actually be operated by Vincent Aviation using their B1900D or B1900C (on behalf of Eagle). Origin have put in the grunt work and proved their is a market for direct services, now NZ just offers better options for travellers.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:58 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 7):
Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

Is Masterton being looked at in anyay, or can't you say?

While it is close to WLG and PMR, the mountain range in-between means that it takes the better part of 4-5 hours simply to travel one-way to AKL. There are plenty of high status baggage tags on the lap-top carrier bags used by the commuter set on the train too. Might be a fast link for the jet-set going to Peter Jackson's place too.

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Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:14 pm

Can't say too much but I have heard of Masterton being studied (very different and still a long way off from a route being confirmed, if ever.)
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:26 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 7):
Oamaru is certainly a centre that has been/is being looked at along with a number of other domestic routes which may be introduced. Watch this space.

I am curious to know what other towns there might be. I'm hard pressed to think of anymore that don't have a NZ service but might get one. Mt Cook? Masterton was an interesting suggestion. Service being moved from HKK to Greymouth?

I'm sure there are a few more route options under consideration. That's easy as every conceivable route isn't currently in service.
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:47 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 11):
I am curious to know what other towns there might be. I'm hard pressed to think of anymore that don't have a NZ service but might get one. Mt Cook? Masterton was an interesting suggestion. Service being moved from HKK to Greymouth?

I'm sure there are a few more route options under consideration. That's easy as every conceivable route isn't currently in service.

Well we used to fly to MT Cook ..

If i remember correctly did oamaru on the F27 used to go to chc via timaru? It was part of the route that did lots of hops down the side of the south island..
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:14 pm

I thought I remember from around 98 or maybe earllier, Motueka being on Air NZ's route map with a service to WLG?  Confused ..odd as its only an hour from NSN..but it could make sense in the summer months as a closer gateway to the Abel Tasman and Golden Bay areas..

Also, does NZ still service Te Anau? (I remember not that long ago them using ATR's on that route to CHC)

Any how, NSN go's off traffic wise for a small airport, and a B1900 would do well on that route.
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:11 pm

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
Also, does NZ still service Te Anau?

No.

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Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:42 pm

And this extra flight

Air New Zealand Link airline Eagle Air is to operate an additional return trip Wellington - Whangarei - Wellington on weekdays effective 26 April.

General Manager Eagle Air, Doug Roberts said that this would be introduced for four months May - August due to some schedule changes and aircraft availability for that period.

Timings of the new service are as follows:

Monday - Friday

Depart Wellington 10.35 am / Arrive Whangarei 12.05 pm
Depart Whangarei 12.30 pm / Arrive Wellington 2.05 pm
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:49 pm

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
I thought I remember from around 98 or maybe earllier, Motueka being on Air NZ's route map with a service to WLG?

Air Nelson used to have a base in Motueka in the 80's prior to the complete buyout by Air New Zealand. Only a strip of around 700m there (remember Air Nelson used to operate Aztec's, C-172's etc. prior to the Metro's and Saab's).
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:16 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 16):
(remember Air Nelson used to operate Aztec's, C-172's etc. prior to the Metro's and Saab's).

What on earth is the Aztec?
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:17 pm

Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 13):
Also, does NZ still service Te Anau?

It's already answered but DOC have put a restriction on flights to the airport which is quite ridiculous after hearing their reasons of "vibrations from departing aircraft may trigger landslips in the fjords". Sounds like total crap to me.

Talking about small towns, how about more links to the Central Otago/Southland area? It seems to me that there should be more services between these southern cities such as DUD, ZQN, IVC and WKA.
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:26 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 18):
DOC have put a restriction on flights to the airport which is quite ridiculous after hearing their reasons of "vibrations from departing aircraft may trigger landslips in the fjords". Sounds like total crap to me.

Agreed - they allow operations from Milford Sound so why not Te Anau which is no where near any Fjords.

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Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:30 pm

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What on earth is the Aztec?

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Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:06 pm

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 19):
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:50 pm

NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

I could also imagine more service out of Blenheim
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):
NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

This was when Rongatai Airport (current WLG) was not used for commercial flights. I don't believe it has much potential unless the size of Porirua and the Hutt Valley grows immensely so that traffic to get to the airport gets too big etc. If AKL doesn't need 2 airports then WLG certainly won't.
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:22 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou
This was when Rongatai Airport (current WLG) was not used for commercial flights. I don't believe it has much potential unless the size of Porirua and the Hutt Valley grows immensely so that traffic to get to the airport gets too big etc. If AKL doesn't need 2 airports then WLG certainly won't.

Ahh no as i remember it in one of the older timetables while WLG was operating and it would of been within the last 15 years im guessing !!!! At the time i believe Motueka was also in the timetable ...Was not meaning NZ should service it was just adding previous airports like Mt Cook etc

Could imagine Kaikoura doing well thou ...
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:25 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 2):
Are there any towns in New Zealand gunning for an NZ service but yet to get one?

Marsterton or Paraparaumu? Dunno
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:28 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):
NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

This was when Rongatai Airport (current WLG) was not used for commercial flights.

NZ served Paraparaumu airport when WLG was closed so it could be re-built

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
I don't believe it has much potential unless the size of Porirua and the Hutt Valley grows immensely so that traffic to get to the airport gets too big etc.

Porirua City and the Kapiti Coast are some of New Zealands fastest growing regions. Kapiti has expanded big time over the last 5 months. A commuiter airline flying Cessna Grand Caravans flys between Kapiti and WLG, as well as Masterton, BHE, NSN and Wanganui. The traffic during rush hour from Kapiti to Wellington is getting worse now, and when there is an accident there is usally no other way of getting past the crash intill its cleared.
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:53 am

kaikoura have a daily (i think) cessna 208 service to wellington with soundsair, a b1900 service from nelson to greymouth wouldnt be a bad idea, the bus service takes about 6hrs and carrys a similar number of passengers at least half of whom meet the tranz alpine
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 21):
NZ also flew from Paraparaumu near Wellington a while back im not sure where to thou

You are correct. Paraparaumu used to be "Wellington" airport back in the NAC days, but NZ had a short lived Paraparaumu service up to AKL with a Metroliner I believe. It was when I was a corporate travel agent, so about 3-4 years ago. It didn't last long. I booked a few clients who lived up the coast on it. I think it ceased operations about the time that NZ went to the Express model.
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:38 am

Quoting Broocy (Reply 27):
You are correct. Paraparaumu used to be "Wellington" airport back in the NAC days, but NZ had a short lived Paraparaumu service up to AKL with a Metroliner I believe. It was when I was a corporate travel agent, so about 3-4 years ago. It didn't last long. I booked a few clients who lived up the coast on it. I think it ceased operations about the time that NZ went to the Express model.

Thanks i thought so as i was only 1 when Air NZ and NAC merged so would not of remembered prior to WLG airport.. Was thinking i was going nuts thanks Broocy for the info !!! i thought it may of been to AKl but it was only a guess ..
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:32 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 22):
If AKL doesn't need 2 airports then WLG certainly won't.

I think the AKL Airport Company want you to think that Auckland doesn't need another airport, protecting their own interests which makes sense. I'm sure some Westies and North Shore people might be stoked if Whenuapai was opened up.
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:18 pm

Justto mop up some of the gaps in this thread.

NAC used to service WLG-TIU-OAM with an F27 that night stopped in OAM. That was abandoned when it became AirNZ, I think. When I used to use this service regularly I can never recall more than a dozen passengers either way on the OAM extension from TIU.

A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.

For a while CHC-TIU was served by Richard Raywards' outfit using a Nomad but with an NZ flight number.

Kaikoura, like Motueka, can't handle the 1900D. Both are served by third level operators from WLG.

Greymouth would need to be upgraded to handle 1900D's. It currently has a GSI-WSZ-WLG daily service provided by West Coast airways using a Navajo. They have just taken delivery of a Dornier 226 to upgrade the service.

All other issues raised have been correctly answered by others.
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting Rongotai (Reply 30):
A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.

Knowing the operating cost of the 1900D and loads/airfares on this route, I find this executive mis-informed. I don't work for Eagle but can't see them hanging on to routes making big losses. Look at the re-allocation of an aircraft to operate an extra WLG-WRE and return service since operating costs into TUO increased.
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:49 pm

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 1):
Bare in mind OriginPacific also operate these two routes.

I thought origin pacific was going to service this route until ANZ came in a week after they were announced and Origin had to pull out because of the compitition  Sad
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:38 am

I've only just found this thread but I've been thinking about this for sometime.

New cities which I'm not 100% sure of but if we had to get any new ones these would be them.
PPQ - Would be good alternative to WLG and PMR. I'm sure sounds air uses it as well.
OAM - from CHC maybe once a day if that!
KBZ - The least likely but would be seasonal from CHC

If anything I think we could open new routes
IVC - DUD
DUD - ZQN
Right now you can not flying within the big three of the south you must fly to CHC and then down again which involves two tickets. I'm not sure which is the better option but I feel these is room for one.

WAG - WLG
I believe this was stopped due poor loads but I would like to look at this again with flight timings, the people of WAG either have to fly to AKL first or drive to PMR or NPL to fly south.

AKL - IVC
Would be interesting to see, there is a lot of traffic between the two cities, not sure if a direct would work but would be cool. Also IVC would have to upgrade it's airport security as they are not set up for B733 operations.

HLZ - NSN
Nelson is one of the fastest growing areas in New Zealand and we are all about linking up the smaller cities.
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:05 am

I agree with something more from IVC, something's got to come from there, I mean why would you expand the runway, if your not going to use it, maybe WLG-IVC?! tho the last time I was down at IVC, (18 months ago) its still a dump, needs some majour investment ! look at DUD now thats an airport going places ,
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting TG992 (Reply 33):
PPQ - Would be good alternative to WLG and PMR. I'm sure sounds air uses it as well.

Sounds Air only use WLG. You must be thinking of Air2there.com (all business class commuter airline) that has its base at Paraparaumu and flys around the lower north island (wanganui downwards) and top of the south island (Bleheim upwards)

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 34):
I mean why would you expand the runway, if your not going to use it

IVC City Council and IVC extended the runway because they are wanting bigger aircraft and dirct flights to aussie.
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:43 pm

Quoting Rongotai (Reply 30):
A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.

I wonder how many NZ routes fall into this catagory? Is there an underlying thought that NZ has to fly routes it looses money on as part of being the national carrier?
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 36):
I wonder how many NZ routes fall into this catagory? Is there an underlying thought that NZ has to fly routes it looses money on as part of being the national carrier?

No. Routes losing money are cut back or suspended. The Link airlines are out to make money not lose it.

As for all the speculation some of you aren't far off...............
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:52 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 37):
No. Routes losing money are cut back or suspended. The Link airlines are out to make money not lose it.

Hmmm the domestic side of the airline is the side making the money but I think there are a few areas which may not be doing so well yet still in service...

Look at the AKL - TUO or AKL - KAT

Also I like the WLG IVC but what about WLG -ZQN!!!!! they tried it a few years back but man what a great option!!!
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:06 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 37):

No. Routes losing money are cut back or suspended. The Link airlines are out to make money not lose it.

Are you sure? Based on this comment:

Quoting Rongotai (Reply 30):
A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:40 pm

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 39):
Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 37):

No. Routes losing money are cut back or suspended. The Link airlines are out to make money not lose it.

Are you sure? Based on this comment:

Quoting Rongotai (Reply 30):
A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.

Taupo routes will now be loosing money because of the increased airport costs at TUO, as a result of it, NZ has cut back TUO services and WLG-Whangarau is one route to benefit with as extra return direct flight
 
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Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:43 am

Having smaller planes flying regularly throughout NZ would be good, If they do get some Dash-8-1/200's or even more Beech 1900D's, I hope for a big order so that they can fly these small routes and connect NZ by air. WKA will have room for expansion soon (ie. demand for seats will grow) and flights to here from DUD or IVC could be beneficial. They should increase flights to Wanaka over the ski season as it's much easier for someone to land there and go right up to Treble Cone or Coronet Peak.
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Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:13 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 41):
or even more Beech 1900D's

I could be wrong and i've not looked this one up but didn't NZ get the last of the 1900D's???
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Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:16 pm

Quoting TG992 (Reply 42):
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 41):
or even more Beech 1900D's

I could be wrong and i've not looked this one up but didn't NZ get the last of the 1900D's???

Yes NZ was the last airline to receive a 1900D, unless NZ107 is talking about second hand 1900Ds.

Wanaka would be a good seasonal airport due to its closeness to the ski fields. The Warbirds of Wanaka airshow could give NZ some good business
 
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Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:32 pm

Eagle are currently in the market for Beech number 17. They have engineers scouting around the States as I write this (2nd Hand obviously).

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 39):
Quoting Rongotai (Reply 30):
A senior NZ executive told me recently that 'to make money on WLG-TIU we would need every flight full and 4 passengers on the wings'.

As I said earlier I find this executive misinformed, I know the operating cost of the Beech.

Quoting TG992 (Reply 38):
Look at the AKL - TUO or AKL - KAT

Yep TUO flights have been cutback because of increased costs. KAT is now twice daily (Mon-Fri) partly due to increased demand and also the desire to try and grow the market.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 41):
Having smaller planes flying regularly throughout NZ would be good, If they do get some Dash-8-1/200's or even more Beech 1900D's, I hope for a big order so that they can fly these small routes and connect NZ by air. WKA will have room for expansion soon (ie. demand for seats will grow) and flights to here from DUD or IVC could be beneficial. They should increase flights to Wanaka over the ski season as it's much easier for someone to land there and go right up to Treble Cone or Coronet Peak.

WKA was twice daily over summer and yes I can see things happening here.

Quoting TG992 (Reply 33):
Nelson is one of the fastest growing areas in New Zealand and we are all about linking up the smaller cities.

Also to do with Nelson, you will shortly see ATR's on the Auckland-Nelson route. Nelson just keeps on growing!
 
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RE: Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:27 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 44):

Also to do with Nelson, you will shortly see ATR's on the Auckland-Nelson route. Nelson just keeps on growing!

Nice! Currently the ATR only route ex AKL is AKL-PMR several times daily along with a couple of Saabs or maybe Dash 8's now.

Quoting TG992 (Reply 42):
I could be wrong and i've not looked this one up but didn't NZ get the last of the 1900D's???

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that, but i've also been thinking that with these extra services they will need a few more regional aircraft, which sounds like are being looked at.
 
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RE: Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:53 am

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 45):
Currently the ATR only route ex AKL is AKL-PMR several times daily

And also there is the one daily ATR to NPE.

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 45):
Quoting TG992 (Reply 42):
I could be wrong and i've not looked this one up but didn't NZ get the last of the 1900D's???

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that

Neither was I.. lol Air NZ has a tendency to get the last of the line models
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RE: Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:13 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 46):
Neither was I.. lol Air NZ has a tendency to get the last of the line models

May have been the last but still a great aircraft.

I really think we could get away with a few more ATR's myself, AKL - NPE should see more ATR's, give Origin a better push.

I'm glade to see AKL-NSN finally get one as well. Would like to se WKA get a ATR over winter or at least a Q300. Then there is my IVC - DUD/ZQN route? maybe this should be a B 1900D

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 44):
Eagle are currently in the market for Beech number 17. They have engineers scouting around the States as I write this (2nd Hand obviously).

What routes will get the extra flights? CHC - WKA but what else?
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RE: Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:36 am

I have been to both Nelson and Palmerston North. I can't imagine there is enough demand to link those cities together. Strange.
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RE: Air NZ To Fly Direct NSN-HLZ/Palmerston North

Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:15 pm

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 44):
As I said earlier I find this executive misinformed, I know the operating cost of the Beech.

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So can I deduce from your comments that the Beech has turned some routes that lost money with Metroliners and Bandeirantes into profitable ones, and that also some routes that would never have been considered with the old mix of aircraft are now under consideration?.

for example could OAM now possibly return to the network?