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Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:52 am

Awhile ago I was browsing flightaware.com and came across a scheduled Mesaba flight from MLI-DTW, listed as nearly 2 hours block to block, on a Saab!

That has got to be a long flight, and it looked from the tracks that a large portion of it was spent over Lake Michigan. I am not sure of the exact mileage, but I doubt there are many flights anymore on a turboprop that last nearly two hours.

I can't seem to find the flight now (thank goodness it was upgraded it looks like), but I am certain it was there, haha.

What are some other rather longish flights in recent times on a turboprop for a regularly scheduled, passenger carrier?
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:17 pm

This isnt to long but quite normal but we have had a few Q400's in FAT that went to SEA for QX. That was a bit ago though.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:45 pm

Great Lakes' flight from Dickinson, ND (DIK) to Denver, CO (DEN) is pretty long - 424nm, blocks right over 2 hours. Flown with an EMB-120. Exactly 100nm longer than MLI-DTW.

Another long one is their Pierre, SD to DEN flight, 334nm. This one blocks at about 1 hour, 45 minutes. But, it is flown with a B1900. Thats a long way to go without a flight attendant or bathroom.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:51 pm

Australia has some long flights.


CNS (16°53'09"S 145°45'19"E) ISA (20°39'50"S 139°29'19"E) 782 km

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CC 570 Cairns (CNS), Cairns, Queensland, Australia 06:45
Mount Isa (ISA), Mount Isa, Queensland, Australia 08:45
Non-stop

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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting BNE (Reply 3):
Macair Airlines
CC 570 Cairns (CNS), Cairns, Queensland, Australia 06:45
Mount Isa (ISA), Mount Isa, Queensland, Australia 08:45
Non-stop

what kind of equipment?
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting BNE (Reply 3):
SWM

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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:21 pm

Air Tahiti has some long ones it operates with its ATR-42/72 fleet. Matter of fact, if I remember correctly they current hold an ETOPS distance record for their ATR fleet.

Some of the longer flights;

Pappete-Gambier 3:50
Pappete-Nuku Hiva 3:45
Pappete-Hiva AO 3:35
Hao - Gambier 3:00
Rangiroa-Nuku Hiva 3:00
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:32 pm

Peninsula Airways in Alaska(KS) flies Saabs from ANC to the Pribilof Islands and Unalaska each just under 800miles one way. There is usually a refuel stop either on the way out or back in DLG.
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:39 pm

Executive (American Eagle) flies some long haul runs with ATR-72s out of SJU. I think the longest is SJU-POS 2:50 southbound and 3:05 northbound. Also SJU-SLU, SJU-AUA, SJU-GND are all 2hours +.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:40 pm

SAS flies the Dash-8 Q400 ARN-ZRH with a block time of 3 hours.
Also ARN-AMS with a block time of about 2:30.
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:43 pm

I flew MSP-BMI (375 miles) in a NW Express Saab (through a squall line, no less) about four years ago. Was supposed to connect through DTW on a CRJ. Needless to say, I was pissed!
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:46 pm

Quoting 777fan (Reply 10):
I flew MSP-BMI (375 miles) in a NW Express Saab

Yeah, they do MSP - PIA with it too...
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:24 pm

Eagle is also bringing back a turboprop run that was cancelled after 9/11. DFW-LFT on a Saab 340. This isn't record-breaking by any means, but is a good 2 hour run, and will be the longest Saab run for Eagle. It's 340 miles and starts April 3 or 4. 3x daily.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:52 pm

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 4):
Quoting BNE (Reply 3):
Macair Airlines
CC 570 Cairns (CNS), Cairns, Queensland, Australia 06:45
Mount Isa (ISA), Mount Isa, Queensland, Australia 08:45
Non-stop

what kind of equipment?

Metroliner III

NZ has a 1 hour 35 min flight from WLG-Whangarei on a B1900D and the return takes 1 hour 40 mins.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:17 pm

FlyLAL will operate some its Vilnius-Istanbul flights with Saab 2000s with a scheduled block time of 3 hours and 5 minutes.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:32 pm

Aereo Litoral still flies daily Saab 45 seater between Hermosillo and Tucson. This is about 400 miles. Also, I think Horizon still flies its Q400s between Sacamento and Portalnd, OR.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:54 pm

Cimber Air (QI) does a seasonal CPH-MPL service in the summer months on an ATR. It is 1.476km or 917miles
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:06 pm

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 15):
Also, I think Horizon still flies its Q400s between Sacamento and Portalnd, OR

That flight only takes about 1hr 20min.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:49 am

While not the longest here at LAX we get:

QX: LAX-BOI
QX:LAX-SUN

Also another long one is USX DCA-HHH (seasonal)
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:16 am

This one would have to be the longest flight. Air Chatams Convair CV580s fly from WLG-Chatam Islands and CHC-Chatam Islands. Each flight takes about 5-6 hours
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:28 am

MEX-CPE (Campeche) on Aeromar is 559 mi. Flown with ATR-42-500
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:05 am

Scandanavia (SAS) fly LCY-ARN which is 890 miles accross the north sea or 2hrs 40mins.

Using a Dash 8-Q400.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:12 am

sasBaltic flies Fokker 50's from Riga to Dnipropetrovsk (Block time 3:05) and to Odessa (3:15).


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Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:03 am

Yes true, but airBaltic has been having trouble on some of these F50 flights because of smoke in the cabin. Their growth is so far stretched out that they don't realize that the Fokkers can't take the day-to-day schedules that are demanded of them.

My suggestion would be to get rid of most of the turbos and concentrate on an all-jet airline, except for the Baltic states.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:25 am

Quoting RIXrat (Reply 23):
My suggestion would be to get rid of most of the turbos and concentrate on an all-jet airline, except for the Baltic states.

Perhaps simply bring in some RJs to replace the Fokkers. I've heard the gentlemen in Stockholm have a plan to reintroduce the Fokker to OV's fleet (a pure-737 fleet doesn't really work in this area), so BT wouldn't really have to dump them too far. Then OV will probably use them on charter flights from Estonia to South Africa or New Zealand or someplace.  duck 
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:38 am

Here's it so far (in statue miles)

PPT-GMR 1028 miles (Air Tahiti)
VNO-IST 957 miles (flyLAL)
ARN-ZRH 925 miles (SAS)
CPH-MPL 917 miles (Cimber Air)
LCY-ARN 894 miles (SAS)
PPT-HIX 891 miles (Air Tahiti)
PPT-NHV 873 miles (Air Tahiti)
ANC-DUT 792 miles (PenAir)
RIX-ODS 780 miles (Air Baltic)
ANC-STG 769 miles (PenAir)
ANC-SNP 766 miles (PenAir)
RIX-DNK 753 miles (Air Baltic)
FAT-SEA 748 miles (Horizon)
ARN-AMS 718 miles (SAS)
LAX-SUN 696 miles (Horizon)
LAX-BOI 674 miles (Horizon)
RGI-NHV 658 miles (Air Tahiti)
SJU-POS 623 miles (American Eagle)
ANC-CDB 620 miles (PenAir)
MEX-CPE 559 miles (Aeromar)
CHC-CHC 552 miles (Air Chathams)
SJU-GND 524 miles (American Eagle)
HOI-GMR 522 miles (Air Tahiti)
DCA-HHH 501 miles (USAirways Express)
DEN-DIK 488 miles (Great Lakes)
SJU-AUA 488 miles (American Eagle)
CNS-ISA 486 miles (Macair)
WLG-CHT 477 miles (Air Chathams)
SJU-SLU 451 miles (American Eagle)
WLG-WRE 394 miles (Air New Zealand)
MLI-DTW 373 miles (Mesaba)
MSP-PIA 342 miles (Mesaba)
DFW-LIT 304 miles (American Eagle)
HMO-TUS 208 miles (Aero Litoral)

seems like Air Tahiti is winning.

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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:55 am

Currently, American Eagle operates NAS-TPA with an ATR-72. That's 324nm and exactly the same as MLI-DTW.

The day I met my wife, I stepped out of a LH Cityline F50 at GVA coming from Berlin (don't remember if TXL or THF), that was 472nm; I believe Swissair and later Crossair/Swiss were operating the route, too, using a Saab 2000.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 26):
Currently, American Eagle operates NAS-TPA with an ATR-72.

haha, i think you have that mixed up a little bit. Miramar Naval Air Station to Tampa Bay Florida is closer to 3000 miles than 300...

are you thinking of Pensacola?
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:18 am

7F on a 748 from YFB to YRB.....NOt sure how far but I believe it is over 4 hours.

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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:42 am

Assuming flying a straight line, QX flies DH8-400s from SEA-BIL, for a distance of 577 nm. The evening flight departs SEA at 21:00 PDT, and has a scheduled arrival of 23:59 MDT -- 1 hour, 59 minutes gate-to-gate, and 2 hours, 15 minutes gate-to-gate for the BIL-SEA return trip.

The same airline also uses the same aircraft on its SEA-YEG flights, for a distance of approximately 485 nm. Granted, these aren't the smallest of prop jobs, but still!  crazy 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:44 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 27):
haha, i think you have that mixed up a little bit. Miramar Naval Air Station to Tampa Bay Florida is closer to 3000 miles than 300...

No, I was referring to Nassau, Bahamas, which is NAS also... unfortunately, the text box lists that second, so it doesn't fit into it anymore...
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:11 am

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 30):
Quoting Planespotting (Reply 27):
haha, i think you have that mixed up a little bit. Miramar Naval Air Station to Tampa Bay Florida is closer to 3000 miles than 300...


No, I was referring to Nassau, Bahamas, which is NAS also... unfortunately, the text box lists that second, so it doesn't fit into it anymore...

Actually, it is listed third, behind Miramar and Moffett Field. But it fits in my square.

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CHC-CHC 552 miles (Air Chathams

That may be a bit off, I assume  Wink
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:34 am

Not a regular thing, but when we had CRJ shortages a year or 2 back we subbed Q400's SEA-SBA fairly often. I think the Q400 knocked out that flight about 15-20 minutes slower than the CRJ at around 2hr 45-50min.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:00 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 19):
This one would have to be the longest flight. Air Chatams Convair CV580s fly from WLG-Chatam Islands and CHC-Chatam Islands. Each flight takes about 5-6 hours

Thank goodness im not teaching you CPL Navigation (joking).

But seriously, you may just want to re-check your times and distances. A Convair would get to Aussie in that time, bloody quick machines.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:32 pm

Quoting Planespotting (Thread starter):
Awhile ago I was browsing flightaware.com and came across a scheduled Mesaba flight from MLI-DTW, listed as nearly 2 hours block to block, on a Saab!

The main reason that flight is as long as it is is because the SF340 is rather slow compared to other turboprop aircraft.

Another very long turboprop route is Air St. Pierre's FSP-YUL at 736nm/847mi/1363km on an ATR
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting SUPRAZACHAIR (Reply 32):
Not a regular thing, but when we had CRJ shortages a year or 2 back we subbed Q400's SEA-SBA fairly often. I think the Q400 knocked out that flight about 15-20 minutes slower than the CRJ at around 2hr 45-50min.

Yes, we had some in FAT for awhile from SEA
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:27 am

Aerolitoral also has a flight from Guadalajara to Ciudad Obregon, 2:35min with a Saab 340.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:47 am

I flew PHL-CAE on a Dornier turboprop a few years ago. I don't know if this is still tb equipment or if it has gone RJ but it was a long flight!
Not sure of the block time but the winds on the day I flew resulted in a 2:45 flight!
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:32 am

We might have a winner here, or at least in my opinion  wink  USX flew PIT-BHM with a Fairchild Dornier 328(TP) like in the late 90's  Smile
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:10 am

I'll take a prop anyday over a RJ. Most people think I am crazy but at least props have windows that you can actually see out of. You don't have to be a 10 yr old to see out. Being on a prop actually feels like flying. I wish airlines had more prop flights again. Especially since they are better on gas.
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:28 am

Rex (Regional Express) in Australia do some longish flights with their Saab 340s. I've flown them from Sydney to Broken Hill, which is 609 miles right across New South Wales. It stops in Dubbo (which is valid for commercial reasons but in any case I don't think the Saab 340 could do it nonstop with reserves). So the two sectors which are approx 50 mins from Kingsford Smith to lovely Dubbo, then two hours to BHQ.

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SYD (33°56'46"S 151°10'38"E) DBO (32°13'00"S 148°34'29"E) 192 mi 0:56
DBO (32°13'00"S 148°34'29"E) BHQ (32°00'05"S 141°28'18"E) 417 mi 2:01
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:28 am

A few years ago I flew on America West Express (Mesa Airlines) from PHX-ASE.

It was on a DHC-8, and it was 2 hours and 30 minutes.
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:50 am

Boston and Maine is looking to start BED-PIT (And I don't mean Bedford, PA for any locals). On the Jetstream 31. 419.0nm

For about a month (October '05) NW/Mesaba ran a Saab on ABE-DTW. 367.9nm

CRW just applied for a SCASD which includes CRW-LGA on a Saab. 384.9nm
 
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RE: Longest Present-day Turboprop Flights

Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting 1011 (Reply 39):
I'll take a prop anydayrnover a RJ. Most people think I am crazy but at least props have windowsrnthat you can actually see out of. You don't have to be a 10 yr old tornsee out. Being on a prop actually feels like flying.


I'm with this guy, I'll also take a prop over an RJ any day. It really doesr feel more like 'real flying' and I say this after quite a bit of time flying in GA aircraft. I also enjoy the lower altitudes the props cruise at because in my opinion you get a better view of the landscap passing below.

I use to fly United Express J-31's on the PWM-IAD route before the RJ's came onto the scene. These0 flights were 2+ hours, at over 500 miles and were some of my most enjoyable on the airlines.

Considering the range of some of the common turbo props such as the SF-340, ATR's,Dash-8, I think a five or six-hundred mile trip around two hours in length is quite do-able and I wouldn't consider it to be a long flight. There are quite a few corporate flights on Beech King Airs that are much longer in duration then a two hour commercial flight.

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