krisyyz
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Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:55 pm

I came across this picture on planes.cz, It looks like this MD11 went through a hail Storm or is in a state of disrepair.

Anyone know what happened here?

How did a AC MD11 end up in Budapest? I thought the Asian flights went are Pacific ops.

http://www.planes.cz/foto1.asp?mode=detail&id=BOLAGLLG&jazyk=en

KrisYYZ

[Edited 2006-04-03 16:00:24]
 
DeltaSFO
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:13 am

What makes you think it's a writeoff? Just needs to be repainted.
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Magyarorszag
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 1):
What makes you think it's a writeoff? Just needs to be repainted.

WO doesn't meen in this case that the aircraft is a writt off, but WO is the airline code for World Airways, and for the AC I let you guess...

Cheers.

M.
 
YYZYYT
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:50 am

Any idea How old that picture is?
That baby rolled past me on take off from 6L at YYZ on March 28, and it looked just fine... Unless AC has two leased...

Or maybe I need to have my eyes checked.
 
RandyWaldron
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:52 am

The aircraft just needs a paint job...I actually saw this airplane in either Amsterdam or Frankfurt a few weeks ago, ship no. 274. It looks exactly the same.

It wasn't in a hail storm, etc. The paint is just peeling off the aircraft - it's very simple.

KrisYYZ: Air Canada does not technically operate the MD11. It's wet-leased from World Airways to provide charter services. It's not doing Trans-Pacific flights or anything like that, it's just flying over the Atlantic doing freight runs. AC's Trans-Pacific Fleet of A330's A340's and B767's does their Pacific/Hawaii flying.

Air Canada wet leases 3 WO MD11F's for cargo operations: Ships 274, 275 and 381.

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DeltaSFO
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 2):
WO doesn't meen in this case that the aircraft is a writt off, but WO is the airline code for World Airways, and for the AC I let you guess...

My apologies.... for some reason I never knew WO was their airline code.
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krisyyz
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 4):
Air Canada does not technically operate the MD11. It's wet-leased from World Airways to provide charter services

True, but it does operate with a AC call sign and flight number.

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 4):
AC's Trans-Pacific Fleet of A330's A340's and B767's does their Pacific/Hawaii flying.

AC doesn't fly any A333's across the Pacific.

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 3):
Any idea How old that picture is?

Dated March 20th/2006... although I still don't know why it would of stopped in BUD unless it was a cargo charter or tech stop.

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accargo
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:46 am

It wasn't operating for AC when it was in BUD. AC doesn't have exclusive use of the WO MD-11F's.
 
RandyWaldron
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 6):
AC doesn't fly any A333's across the Pacific.

Pardon my mistake.
However, I do believe that I've seen the AC330 in HNL. I will do more research and give you a more conclusive answer in the near future and provide you with specifics.

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 6):
True, but it does operate with a AC call sign and flight number.

KrisYYZ: While it may have an AC flight no & callsign, it is a wet-lease. World Airways crews operate the aircraft and it is registered to WO and operated on behalf of Air Canada. It is not an Air Canada aircraft, it does not carry a Canadian registration nor is the crew from AC. It is simply a wet-lease.
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Nlspot2004
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:51 am

World / Air Canada Md11.

N274WA (at Budapest)
N275WA (saw it last sunday 2 april at Brussels)

http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=92156
 
golftango
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:12 am

Wow, i haven't seen an a/c in that shape before, Dirty, yes, but that looks just horrid.
 
808TWA
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 4):
It's not doing Trans-Pacific flights or anything like that, it's just flying over the Atlantic doing freight runs. AC's Trans-Pacific Fleet of A330's A340's and B767's does their Pacific/Hawaii flying.

AC uses the WO MD-11F aircraft to Shanghai too....which is a trans-Pacific flight. The flight number is AC1997 YYZ-PVG 5 x per week

The other destinations are YYZ-FRA (AC1998 daily until Apr 14th then down to 5 x per week) and YYZ-BRU-DEL (AC1988 on day 6)

Noticed that the paint was stripping on this machine around one month ago...Sad that they haven't dealt with it yet, doesn't help with image when it says "Operated for Air Canada" on the side.

-Alan
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MrMcCoy
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:41 am

It's a typical WO ship.. but the interior and flight functions are in perfect shape. I don't know about you, but I love her a little bit dirty..  Smile
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accargo
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:43 am

Quoting RandyWaldron (Reply 8):
However, I do believe that I've seen the AC330 in HNL.

It more than likely was a 340 you saw in HNL, I do not believe we have ever sent 330's there.
 
fxra
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:48 am

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
Noticed that the paint was stripping on this machine around one month ago...Sad that they haven't dealt with it yet, doesn't help with image when it says "Operated for Air Canada" on the side.

274 goes to C-check this month, the paint will be most likely dealt with there. The YYZ-FRA and YYZ-YHZ-VIT-FRA turns are usually operated by Gemini.

later
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accargo
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RE: Damaged WO / AC Cargo MD11 At BUD

Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:16 am

Just remembered that it may have had diverted to BUD on it's way to DEL. AC1988 operates YYZ-BRU-DEL. Seem to recall something about a delay due acft went mechanical on AC1989 DEL-BRU-YYZ in March.