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The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:03 am

Hi everyone;

In the same light as the SLC Spotters thread, I've decided on starting a thread about spotting in ATH. Speaking of which, where are some good spots to spot at landside?
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:56 am

Hey WesternA318,

Well my uncles house for one is great  Wink It lies exactly underneath the 03R approach about 9 miles out and you get good views of on arrivals on 03L. A bit closer to the airport you've got the area where IKEA is which is great for watching arrivals on 03L although if you want to take photos you'll need a good zoom (whilst keeping an eye for the police Big grin ). There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to. It's like a cafe/bar type place where you can watch the airport and have a bite at the same time although since it's in the same area as IKEA it will only offer views over 03L again. As for 03R I'm not too sure but there are some parking areas before the cargo terminals which might be for staff only but if not then there would be a perfect place. If landing/departing runway is 03R/L (which tends to be most of the time) then best time to go would be early morning to mid afternoon as it can get quite hot and the sun may start to get in the way for photos after that. Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting. There was loads of places. Many I time I used to sit at the threshold of 33R and the planes would just fly right over you like in this photo


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There used to be a coffee shop that had a great view too overlooking the GA parking and 33R. My old school used to run parallel to the runway too so I always had great view from the top of our buildings. Never wanted to go to classes!

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to. It's like a cafe/bar type place where you can watch the airport and have a bite at the same time although since it's in the same area as IKEA it will only offer views over 03L again.

I'll be back in December, and hopefully I can stop by SkyView. I'm wondering what the rush hours are at ATH too?
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:43 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Well my uncles house for one is great

Send our regards to your uncle. Just post his address and a two dozen of A.netters will come to visit him. biggrin 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
There's something called SkyView which I've always meant to go into and see if it's any good but never had the chance to

That place sounds interesting. Is there any website of that place. I also heard about good views from McDonald's at the airport.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting.

Oh, every time somebody mentions good old Helliniko I feel like  cry  . How great it was to be able to swim, watch planes, listen to planes or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:47 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.

Ohh man, first time I EVER took pics outside of the US of airplanes was from there. The list goes:

* TWA 747-100/SP/767-200/L-1011
* Olympic 707/727/737/747/A300
* Apollo A300
* Delta 727-200/767-300ER/A310
* Pan Am 727-200

Have to dig the books out for those!
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:02 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
Ohh man, first time I EVER took pics outside of the US of airplanes was from there

I was once in a hotel just accross the street from Emmantina (closer to the beach) and all the pics I've made in 1990 were made from my balcony. Athough the quality is not good enough even for MyAviation, here are some goodies:

Saudia 737-200
Lauda 737-400
Swissair MD-81
Austrian MD-80
Lufthansa 727-200
Britannia 767-200
and the list goes on and on....

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 4):
TWA 747-100/SP/767-200/L-1011

I remember TWA 747 landing. I was directly beneath it. Woow. Also, I remember lots of Tower Air 747s.

Also, there was an interesting landing of Thai DC-10 which was aborted twice. The plane landed on her third attempt. I still wonder what were the reasons for that.

As for A300, back in 1990 OA operated both B$ and 600R and the difference in sound was obvious. The first plane I saw in Glyfada was PIA A300 take-off.

Well, I could talk about my two visits there in 1990 and 1994 for days....
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:26 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
Send our regards to your uncle. Just post his address and a two dozen of A.netters will come to visit him.

Hehe - he thinks it's bad enough when I come over and set myself up on the veranda with binocs, scanner and a few souvlakia!  Wink

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
That place sounds interesting. Is there any website of that place. I also heard about good views from McDonald's at the airport.

There's a brief mention of it on the Athens Airport website -

http://www.aia.gr/EN/passenger_infor...tion/dining/dining_areas/body.shtm

McDonalds isn't great for viewing although it is advertised in the airport as a viewing gallery. Photos from there are rubbish cause there's too much reflection from the restaurant windows and it only runs for about 2/3 stands. Here's a photo I took from McDonalds last year -

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Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 3):
Oh, every time somebody mentions good old Helliniko I feel like . How great it was to be able to swim, watch planes, listen to planes or go to Emmantina and take photos of them.

Alexsandar I'm so pleased you feel that way. I thought I was the only one! Was great sitting watching the Olympic Dorniers and ATRs coming in from the islands doing a really tight left base for 33R. I too remember the Tower Air 747's and the Austrian MD80s. Do you remember Air Greece with the Fokker 100's and ATRs and Cronus and Axon? Watching the OA 747's taking off from 33R and making an immediate left turn to avoid the city was something else to see if you were in Alimos! And of course the good old OA 727's. What a racket they made! Remember seeing them all lined up in the morning ready to head out to Europe. Really great memories!

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Well, I could talk about my two visits there in 1990 and 1994 for days....

Yes please..........I've got more than a few memories to share too!

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:30 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Britannia 767-200

 drool  I miss those. Beautiful airplanes, beautiful airline, and, Beautiful F/A's. Continued my membership in the mile High Club on a Brittannia 762 from Faro with the head F/A back in 95/96?

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 5):
Also, I remember lots of Tower Air 747s.

I know I keep mentioning them in other threads, but I bet most if not all of those 747's were for Homeric Tours charters. Can't WAIT till they get their own A330-200's.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:53 am

Here's a photo I managed to find of the Skyview cafe. From what I can see it overlooks 03L/21R which runs exactly left to right in the photo.



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 2):
I'm wondering what the rush hours are at ATH too?

A lot of the traffic is scattered throughout the day. Early morning from about 0500-0800 sees a lot of departures mainly domestic OA and A3 returning a few hours later and a number of European carriers. Most of the long haul arrivals are from about 0600-1100 including SQ, DL, TG and the OA 340s from JFK etc. Majority of them leave again between 1200-1600. 1200-1400 is a busy period for arrivals again, this time mostly European including OS, AF, LH, LX, KL, U2 and AZ all arriving within an hour with some other traffic like EK, GF and QR. Early evening tends to pick up again from about 1700 and then last thing at night is very busy for arrivals from 2000 to well after midnight for some European arrivals like BA, LH and OK. Wish I was going soon again!

Nick

P.S - New carriers at ATH this year will be Flyglobespan and Blue 1 as well as PIA relaunching flights to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad and Air Transat now operating scheduled flights to Montreal/Toronto.

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:01 am

Nick,

Whens your next time headed out? Hopefully, like I posted above, I'll be out there in December. Maybe I'll bring a few other spotters from here in SLC.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:06 am

Western,

Prob not during summer possibly November or December if I can get the time off work. How you coming? DL via JFK?

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
a few souvlakia!

Now I really miss Greece cry 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
Alexsandar I'm so pleased you feel that way.

Those were some of the best moments of my life and I'm not exaggarating.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
I thought I was the only one!

It's the feeling I had in Athens. Not many people cared a bit about planes. They were just angry because they couldn't sleep. But, who needs sleep in Athens anyway? biggrin 

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
Was great sitting watching the Olympic Dorniers and ATRs

Oh yes, they looked cute in the late afternoon.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 6):
And of course the good old OA 727's.

Here's another story from me. In 1994, on my second visit to Athens, my hotel wasn't in Glyfada, but in Omonia. So, I had to use bus to go to Glyfada and the line was really strange going all over the place, the route was too long and I was still feeling dizzy after a 36 hours drive on a bus from Belgrade. Now, in that public bus I felt quite disoriented and some Swedish tourists showed me where to get out. I still didn't recognize the place and all of the sudden a 727 was landing. At that point, I knew exactly where I was.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
Here's a photo I managed to find of the Skyview cafe.

Thanks. It may not be the best for taking photos, but it is good for ordinary spotting and enjoying. Not bad at all.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
PIA relaunching flights to Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad

I didn't know they discountinued ATH. I've seen then both in 1990 and 1994 with A300s and A310-300s respectively.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 8):
Air Transat now operating scheduled flights to Montreal/Toronto.

Back in 1990, Air Canada used to fly to ATH with 762.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:52 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Now I really miss Greece



Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Those were some of the best moments of my life and I'm not exaggarating.

I know. I feel exactly the same. Had the most memorable and unforgettable experiences of my life in Greece and am so proud to be Greek.  praise 

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
It's the feeling I had in Athens. Not many people cared a bit about planes. They were just angry because they couldn't sleep. But, who needs sleep in Athens anyway?

Yeah do you remember. Elliniko was like a hostel. I remember vividly tourists with sleeping bags, suitcases and all their possesions just camped in and outside the airport. You couldn't move for stepping on them. And of course the police in their mini tanks and their big guns, even then back in the early 90's. Some of my best memories of ATH was waiting to go into Computing lessons at school and our classroom was right on the top of the building overlooking the airport and I remember waiting outside the classroom to go in and looking over at the TWA and Tower Air 747s in amazement.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Here's another story from me. In 1994, on my second visit to Athens, my hotel wasn't in Glyfada, but in Omonia. So, I had to use bus to go to Glyfada and the line was really strange going all over the place, the route was too long and I was still feeling dizzy after a 36 hours drive on a bus from Belgrade. Now, in that public bus I felt quite disoriented and some Swedish tourists showed me where to get out. I still didn't recognize the place and all of the sudden a 727 was landing. At that point, I knew exactly where I was.

What a great story! You can always rely on the good old 727s to show you the way! I actually flew on a 727 from ATH to LGW but it was operated by Sterling.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
I didn't know they discountinued ATH. I've seen then both in 1990 and 1994 with A300s and A310-300s respectively.

They stopped for a season or two if I'm correct. They still used the A310 then and believe the routes are still scheduled for an A310 this summer.

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:56 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 10):
Prob not during summer possibly November or December if I can get the time off work. How you coming? DL via JFK?

Oh hell no, lol, DL might not even be around by then anyways, lol. Nowadays I get to ATH by going SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on Continental, then Aegean to ATH, and sometimes onto IOA (close to Trikala). I should be there, if I'm going, by December 17, staying until January 3/4.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 11):
Oh yes, they looked cute in the late afternoon.

LOL, the Dorniers remind me of mechanical mosquitos, lol. In SLC, all I ever see here besides the myriad of CRJ's and occassional ERJ, is the EMB-120 Brasilia. FCO is interesting too, lol, but my Xmas trip I want to head back to ATH.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:04 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 13):
Oh hell no, lol, DL might not even be around by then anyways, lol. Nowadays I get to ATH by going SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on Continental, then Aegean to ATH, and sometimes onto IOA (close to Trikala). I should be there, if I'm going, by December 17, staying until January 3/4.

Yeah you could be right! LOL! Aegean are excellent to fly with! I was wanting to go over and have a Greek Christmas this year so fingers crossed I can get the time off work and go. You never know I might bump into you! Have you ever been to Preveza? It's not far from IOA and is beautiful! (as is all of Greece of course)

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:19 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 1):
Talking of ATH I remember the old airport was great for spotting. There was loads of places. Many I time I used to sit at the threshold of 33R and the planes would just fly right over you like in this photo

I do miss the old ATH Hellinikon airport.  Sad

Hellinikon also had an observation deck that was great for spotting, Hellinikon did not have jetways, the planes parked away from the terminal which gave you great sites.  airplane 

Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:21 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 12):
am so proud to be Greek.

You have every reason to be proud. I love Greece very much and always felt nice there, especially in Athens.

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 12):
Some of my best memories of ATH was waiting to go into Computing lessons at school and our classroom was right on the top of the building overlooking the airport

Was your school close to Domestic Terminal? I remember there was a bus stop there. This thread brought back some memories.

It was really nice to be on a public bus and coming to Glyfada. At one point, you could see two or three 727s parked and being prepared for their next flight and you could see that only for a few seconds, but I always tried to get the best out of those moments. Thanks to some photographers here, those memories are kept vivid in my mind:

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

Once I've heard that a part of the old Helliniko would be used for the Aviation Museum.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:29 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Hellinikon also had an observation deck that was great for spotting, Hellinikon did not have jetways, the planes parked away from the terminal which gave you great sites.

I have a terrific photo of an EFS/Air Bahamas DC-8-62 that my dad took WAY back in 1976. Also, anyone notice that beautiful MEA 720B holding short of the runway in the last 727 photo? Weren't those the days or what?
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:32 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what is going to happen to hellinikon?

Yanni, I was there a few weeks ago and the old OA domestic terminal and Olympic Aviation hangar is still there although it's being used for exhibitions etc. Alongside that there are more buildings which were used for the Olympic Games. I think a basketball stadium was one. The international terminal on the east side is still there and whilst I was there there was a motorbike exhibition going on with a mini race track and big tent thing set up over the apron. The runway from 15L to about half way down has been dug up and I think they're going to make it into a park. The rest of the runway and international apron is used for cycling, driving classes (learning how to prevent skids etc) and model aircraft flying. Quite a shame from what it used to be. Here's a photo of some of the things that have been done to it -


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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 18):
anyone notice that beautiful MEA 720B holding short of the runway in the last 727 photo

 yes  There are three planes in that photo and all of them are history now. Olympic 727, MEA 720B and Austrian MD-80.

I was fortunate enough to see MEA 707 landing in ATH in 1990. She was still in the same livery as that 720B.
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 16):
Was your school close to Domestic Terminal? I remember there was a bus stop there. This thread brought back some memories

Yeah it was just down from the Domestic Terminal on that side. I've got a Google Earth image of it -

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My school was just to the right of where it says Athinai Airport. I've been waiting for a thread like this to see if anyone else had the same kinds of memories or whether I was the only one!

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 18):
Weren't those the days or what?

You can say that again!

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:47 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 21):
Yeah it was just down from the Domestic Terminal on that side

I had no idea that there was a school there. I remember that bus stop very well. It was probably third from my hotel in Glyfada.
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:53 am

Well that settles it! How 'bout we set up a spotters meet for December as we get closer to it?

Speaking of good old days, my first flight to ATH was routed like this:

SLC-DEN 727-200
DEN-JFK L-1011-100
JFK-ATH 747-100 (N93119, the first of five trips she would fly to ATH with me aboard)

On the way back it was a bit more odd:

ATH-CDG 707-320
CDG-JFK 747SP
JFK-LAX 767-200
LAX-STL 747-100
STL-SLC MD-80

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:53 am

Oh, I just remembered another interesting plane in Athens. It was Interflug A310-300 which was very new in 1990 (a year old, I guess). I still have negatives and I'll try to put it on CD and post it on MyAviation.net some day, although the quality is really bad (I used an old Russian camera).

I took a photo of it while the plane was landing, but this photo really brought back memories:

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:58 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 23):
How 'bout we set up a spotters meet for December as we get closer to it?

It sounds great and I'd love to join you all, but it is too early for me to plan it and there is a good possibility that I won't make it anyway.  Sad But, it's too early, so who knows. Personally, I'd love that.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 23):
my first flight to ATH was routed like this:

SLC-DEN 727-200
DEN-JFK L-1011-100
JFK-ATH 747-100 (N93119, the first of five trips she would fly to ATH with me aboard)

On the way back it was a bit more odd:

ATH-CDG 707-320
CDG-JFK 747SP
JFK-LAX 767-200
LAX-STL 747-100
STL-SLC MD-80

All I can say to that is WOOOW  eyepopping 
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 25):
All I can say to that is WOOOW

Isn't that the registration of the first A380? F-WWOW?  bigthumbsup  Great photo of the A310 btw!  cloudnine 
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:04 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 26):
Great photo of the A310 btw!

Yes, it really is great. Pitty, I didn't make some pics as good as that one.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 22):
I had no idea that there was a school there. I remember that bus stop very well. It was probably third from my hotel in Glyfada.

Yeah they moved the school about a year ago but the buildings still exist. Do you remember a DC3 of the HCAA parked in a military type enclosure. My school was just up from there. I probably drove past you on my way to school in 94. Small world!

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 23):
Well that settles it! How 'bout we set up a spotters meet for December as we get closer to it?

Would love to if i can get it off work!

I think my first flight to ATH was with Caledonian on the L-1011 but can't be sure cause I was an Unaccompanied Minor at the time. Also went with Air2000, Sterling, Sabre, Monarch and of course BA amongst others. Now that I remember I got a jumpseat for the landing in ATH 33R on a BA767 from LHR and another time got a jumpseat for takeoff in ATH 33R again on a BA737 to LGW. Those were the days you could ask and they'd say "sure come on up"!

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:22 pm

I've also taken a Swissair DC-10 from ZRH into ATH, but MAN, I can't wait until my next trip out!

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:15 pm

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 19):

Yanni, I was there a few weeks ago and the old OA domestic terminal and Olympic Aviation hangar is still there although it's being used for exhibitions etc. Alongside that there are more buildings which were used for the Olympic Games. I think a basketball stadium was one. The international terminal on the east side is still there and whilst I was there there was a motorbike exhibition going on with a mini race track and big tent thing set up over the apron. The runway from 15L to about half way down has been dug up and I think they're going to make it into a park. The rest of the runway and international apron is used for cycling, driving classes (learning how to prevent skids etc) and model aircraft flying. Quite a shame from what it used to be. Here's a photo of some of the things that have been done to it -

Yasou Niko
At least they are keeping the airport terminal buildings.  
Where are they going to have the aviation museum? out in the open?
I noticed they still have some planes there, including a OA 747, are those planes going to part of the museum?
I haven't been to Athens since '77, I must visit Athens next year.  yes 

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:19 pm

Where is Aegean's Main Offices? And how can I get a good model of their new Airbus or 737's?
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:55 pm

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 28):
I probably drove past you on my way to school in 94.

I was there in the second half of July, but who knows. It is indeed a small world.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:57 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 31):
how can I get a good model of their new Airbus or 737's?

I think I've seen some of the display models on sale on the Internet.

BTW, OA office in Glyfada used to have a nice and really big model of 737-200. You just reminded me of that.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:02 pm

Hehe, i know the Forest Hills offices of OA have this HUGE PacMin A340 in the window...lol. But then again, I have a pacmin 1/75 scale A300-600 "Macedonia" from OA.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:36 pm

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 30):
Yasou Niko
At least they are keeping the airport terminal buildings.
Where are they going to have the aviation museum? out in the open?
I noticed they still have some planes there, including a OA 747, are those planes going to part of the museum?
I haven't been to Athens since '77, I must visit Athens next year.

Yiasou Yianni. Well I'm not sure if they are going to build a museum or not. I hope that they do. You're right though there are 3 OA planes left at LGAT (up where the old GA bit was) although doubt very much if they'd make it into a museum. There's a 737-200, 727 and a 747-200 but all in very bad shape, ie - nose, engines, windows and gear on some are missing. There's also a HCAA BAC1-11 and a couple of light aircraft too that are for scrapping. Up until recently there was also OA's first DC3 still sitting there along with a few other OA planes but they were all gradually scrapped. A great shame really.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 31):
Where is Aegean's Main Offices? And how can I get a good model of their new Airbus or 737's?

Aegeans main offices are in Kifissia. To my knowledge I don't think Aegean have ever brought out a model of any of their aircrafts. I hope I'm wrong cause I'd like to get one. Maybe that'll change when they get their A320's?

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:50 pm

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 35):
There's a 737-200, 727 and a 747-200 but all in very bad shape, ie - nose, engines, windows and gear on some are missing.

now THATS a museum!

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 35):
Maybe that'll change when they get their A320's?

I hoep so, I know they sell models on their duty free flights, though. 737-300 and BAe146 models.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:29 pm

Back to the whole spotting deal, on the left of 21L there is a hill where the approach radar is installed, I think people can drive up there and have a great view of 21L-03R. If you don't mind al the EM radiation that is. I'm flying to ATH in exactly one week, I think I'll pay a visit to the skyview cafe.

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 31):
Where is Aegean's Main Offices? And how can I get a good model of their new Airbus or 737's?

Aegean's offices are indeed in Kifissia, about 10 minutes walk from my parents' house. For more info check www.aegeanair.gr
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:24 am

Ahhh Hellinikon! I miss it.

What's even sadder is that my family has an apartment in Athens and a house in Loutsa and I haven't been to greece in 8 years Sad

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:03 am

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 37):
I'm flying to ATH in exactly one week, I think I'll pay a visit to the skyview cafe.

Could you possibly provide us with directions there when you can?

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 37):
Aegean's offices are indeed in Kifissia, about 10 minutes walk from my parents' house

Hehe, I think I'll head on out with a big tray of Galaktoboureko... Silly

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 38):
What's even sadder is that my family has an apartment in Athens and a house in Loutsa and I haven't been to greece in 8 years

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 35):

Yiasou Yianni. Well I'm not sure if they are going to build a museum or not. I hope that they do. You're right though there are 3 OA planes left at LGAT (up where the old GA bit was) although doubt very much if they'd make it into a museum. There's a 737-200, 727 and a 747-200 but all in very bad shape, ie - nose, engines, windows and gear on some are missing. There's also a HCAA BAC1-11 and a couple of light aircraft too that are for scrapping. Up until recently there was also OA's first DC3 still sitting there along with a few other OA planes but they were all gradually scrapped. A great shame really.

The OA 747 was sold to a scrapper, and bought back again for museum use http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=203687. That 747 does not have the engines, but everything else looks intact.
The DC-3 is going to be made into a cafeteria. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5612043 In this photo you can see the other aircrafts.

OA DC-3 Back in the day ID: 0153038>

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 40):
The OA 747 was sold to a scrapper, and bought back again for museum use http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=203687. That 747 does not have the engines, but everything else looks intact.
The DC-3 is going to be made into a cafeteria. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5612043 In this photo you can see the other aircrafts.

OA DC-3 Back in the day ID: 0153038>

Thanks for the info, Olympic707! I'd gladly plunk down some money to restore this museum-quality showcase quality. (Kinda like the Concorde at the Udvar-Hazy Annex in IAD).
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:15 am

There's a view of the northern runway from the end of the pedestrian walkway pier to the long term car park:


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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:18 am

Quoting GCDEG (Reply 35):

Yiasou Yianni. Well I'm not sure if they are going to build a museum or not. I hope that they do. You're right though there are 3 OA planes left at LGAT (up where the old GA bit was) although doubt very much if they'd make it into a museum. There's a 737-200, 727 and a 747-200 but all in very bad shape, ie - nose, engines, windows and gear on some are missing. There's also a HCAA BAC1-11 and a couple of light aircraft too that are for scrapping. Up until recently there was also OA's first DC3 still sitting there along with a few other OA planes but they were all gradually scrapped. A great shame really.

The OA 747 was sold to a scrapper, and bought back again for museum use http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=203687. That 747 does not have the engines, but everything else looks intact.  airplane 
The DC-3 is going to be made into a cafeteria. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5612043 In this photo you can see the other aircrafts.
Hellinikon picture taken last year http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5614473

OA DC-3 Back in the day
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:20 am

Paul,

Thanks for posting that BEAUTIFUL Armenian TU-154! Hehe, if I head on out this December, that's what I'm going to try and get on, lol.
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:27 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 41):
Thanks for the info, Olympic707! I'd gladly plunk down some money to restore this museum-quality showcase quality. (Kinda like the Concorde at the Udvar-Hazy Annex in IAD).

Here is the Concorde at IAD museum http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=348196

That museum is worth seeing, it is bigger than it looks.  bigthumbsup 

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 45):
Here is the Concorde at IAD museum http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=348196

That museum is worth seeing, it is bigger than it looks.

 drool  OMG, Now I KNOW where I'm headed for my Semester break in August. MAN! Is that a FedEx Falcon under the wing??  hyper   knockout   praise 
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:50 am

According to some pics BAC 1-11 looks OK, but what about 727 and 737-200? Are they still in good condition?
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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:51 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 46):
   OMG, Now I KNOW where I'm headed for my Semester break in August. MAN! Is that a FedEx Falcon under the wing??         

Yes it is. It is one of the original Falcons FedEx started with. I got to the museum a bit late and only had time to take a few pictures.  camera  I'm going to go there again this summer. There is no admission charge, but the parking if I remember correctly is $12.00.  dollarsign  So a car load of people go, the price is cheap.  biggrin 

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RE: The ATH Spotters Thread

Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting Olympic707 (Reply 48):
I'm going to go there again this summer. There is no admission charge, but the parking if I remember correctly is $12.00. So a car load of people go, the price is cheap.

Around what time? I'll be there from August 12-15. If there's a bunch of us going, I'll rent a big-ass Volvo S-80 and we'll all head down there and spot around IAD too.
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