AlitaliaMD11
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First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:44 am

CS-TOD has become the first A340-300 in TAP's fleet to be painted in their new livery!


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Personally I think the A330-200 looks better in the TAP livery.


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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:02 am

They both look really nice. The new livery is really cool.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:06 am

I can't see anything wrong with it, it looks really good on the A340 as it does on all their other arcraft.

The TAP livery is one of my favourites.
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Thread starter):
Personally I think the A330-200 looks better in the TAP livery.

I think so too. Maybe is it the light that produce that impression, or the longer fuselage? Nevertheless, I still think that this C/S isn't very much imaginative.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:11 am

That's a really nice livery. Suits the A330 a little better than A340, in my opinion.
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:54 am

Nice livery indeed. It looks very nice on the A343 too Big grin

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:17 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Thread starter):
Personally I think the A330-200 looks better in the TAP livery.



Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 3):
I think so too. Maybe is it the light that produce that impression, or the longer fuselage?

Where I come from, 63m is bigger than 58m. Those would be the lengths of the 343 and 332 respectively.

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 4):
That's a really nice livery. Suits the A330 a little better than A340, in my opinion

I fail to see how. It is the same bloody livery. The colours appear in only two places, the forward fuselage, and the tail, which happen to be identical on both aircraft. Where the aircraft differ, number of engines and nacelles, there is no colour....nothing that would make one appear better than the other....unless you are commenting on the design of the actual aircraft itself?
Does this group prefer the 332 over the 343 and has allowed this preference to enter in their opinion of TAP's new colours?
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:12 am

That is the most stupid and uninspired livery I've seen in a long time. It looks like a partially blind 5 year old designed it. Horrible.
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:28 am

I also think the twin looks better than the quad. If TP had decided to paint the engine cowlings, the A343 would surely look awesome!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:30 am

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 7):
That is the most stupid and uninspired livery I've seen in a long time. It looks like a partially blind 5 year old designed it. Horrible.

Agreed 100%, taking the euro-white scheme to a whole new low...  thumbsdown   thumbsdown   thumbsdown 

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:41 am

Yes, I think the new liverly is pretty much a big nothing. Would perhaps look best on an ATR or something of that size. Too much white, and not particularly enamored of the rest.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:46 pm

Well I too have to agree with some remarks above. Tap should have least introduced some additional improvements to this livery. Such as painting the cowlings and the winglets.

With time this new livery is starting to grow more on me.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:59 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 11):
Well I too have to agree with some remarks above. Tap should have least introduced some additional improvements to this livery. Such as painting the cowlings and the winglets.

Or just keep the old colourscheme and do all what you mentioned. That would have been even better. Big grin I personally can't stand the new colours, they're just plain boring. The old colours of Air Portugal were the best of them all. It's a shame the A332s won't be painted in them.  Sad

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Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Thread starter):
Personally I think the A330-200 looks better in the TAP livery.

They both look the same. Except for the four hairdryers on the A343 and the stretched fuselage length compared with the Pratt powered A332, it looks pretty much the same. Just imagine an A333 in those colours and apart from the engines, it would be the exact same thing.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:08 pm

Hi,

Quoting WINGS (Reply 11):
Tap should have least introduced some additional improvements to this livery. Such as painting the cowlings and the winglets.

I like the new livery but I agree with WINGS, cowlings and winglets should have been painted with the new colours too.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:15 am

Hi!

I'm still trying to process the concept of "a stupid livery"....but I still can't figure that!!!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:32 am

One word: hideous

 yuck 

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:03 am

terrible livery! I prefer the old one.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:06 am

So much white! Was there a snow storm at LIS?  Smile
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:29 am

Veredict: TAPs new livery is terrible.

Both A340 and A330 look awful in this crap "gummi bear livery". Talk about a change that wasn't needed. Enjoy the sights of the much more elegant older livery while it lasts boys and girls!
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:40 am

Hi!

"Terrible", "Hideous", "Ugly", "Too much white", etc. etc....people just use non-sense terms but don't give a real justification....do you realise that MAYBE white colour have a purpose to be there??? Have you ever understood that white colour can ACTUALLY reflects the sun and lower heat waves??? Why there are so many white cars in the Middle East???? Why the arabs wear white???? Why? Why? What is TAP livery different than SWISS, Delta, Continental, Air France, Lufthansa???
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:24 pm

Love this new livery, love it.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:41 pm

To me , it looks like a LCC livery .
A346,A343,A342,A332,A333,A310,A300,AB6,A319,A320,A321,B741,B744,B777,B767,B732,B735,B727,B707,B757,MD80,F-70,E-170,B738
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:21 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 19):
Have you ever understood that white colour can ACTUALLY reflects the sun and lower heat waves???

Nah, it's not that complex. It's just bad taste  Smile
There are plenty of simple, white fuselage liveries out there that are significantly better than TAP's new one. Some of them you listed yourself.

It does take special talent to screw up an Euro-white livery, and for that I have to give them credit  rotfl 

To add insult to injury, they picked lime green which is definitely not the color that's in the flag.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:53 pm

Hi!

Now that you say that I challange you to bring your taste up to me here so I can analyse it...come on, give me some of yours euro-white liveries!!!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:30 am

Some friends saw CS-TOD yesterday night at GIG and tell me that it's really amazing at night. CS-TOD took 260 pax to GIG and 259 to LIS yesterday.

I expect they took some pics !

I personally love the livery (seems that on little planes it's better)!

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:23 am

Hi!

That's a big load of passengers...great for TAP. I think Portugal shows up really well in that livery, we are a country full of sun, nice people, nice weather, excelent food, etc. etc....so what's wrong of having a bright red, lime green and bright green??? It's Portugal at is best...just that! If people want to connect with an LCC airline, well that's their problem...we've been around for more than 60 years...and the connaisseurs know well who and what service TAP gives!!!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:28 am

Congrats TP see you at EWR.
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 23):
Now that you say that I challange you to bring your taste up to me here so I can analyse it...come on, give me some of yours euro-white liveries!!!

I'm not saying that these are my favorite liveries. Simply implying that it's possible to have nice euro-white liveries. Sometimes less is more.

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And a couple more examples of how a mostly white livery doesn't have to look like a flying gummy bear billboard  Smile

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And of course there are plenty of examples that debunk the notion that airliners based in hot climates must be mostly white but I understand the financial implications of using a lot of color.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:50 pm

Hi!

Ok, I got it!!!! Sorry mate but with examples like those there's no way we can even discuss this matter!!! You're bringing something much different than I expected...and you're not playing fare ball with me.....were in the world Singapore is an euro-white airline???? And SK???? Regarding SAA, well at least TP have a little more colour in the fuselage than SAA, and the difference for Qantas is that they have some more coulour in the winglets and engines. So overall your examples really don't make any sense to me!!! Sorry!
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:08 am

lol relax 990!

If you take all the painted area in the new scheme and strech it out its not much larger the the stripe on the old scheme (which happens to be under the windows & throws your heat & color argument out the window Big grin )

face it, those with good taste hate this Jello livery (hehe!)  Smile~
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:12 am

Hi MIAMIx707!

I'm quite relaxed...but if you are "one of those that have a good taste" just bring me some of "your good taste" too so I can analyse it!!! I like facts ( in this case pictures ) not just words! We have a sentence in Portugal that says - " The world is sick of words...bring facts!!! " - now bring them on my friend, bring me your good taste!!!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Thread starter):
Personally I think the A330-200 looks better in the TAP livery.

Personally I think an A330-200 looks better than any A343-300.

 Silly

Quoting CV990 (Reply 19):
Why the arabs wear white???? Why? Why?

I really have no idea.


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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:19 am

I think TAP are trying to be 'contemporary' and 'minimalistic' but unfortunately it isn't working.
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:16 am

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L-L

The new livery is amazing!
It's young and fresh!
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:25 am

I saw it for the first time on an A320 at LHR yesterday, hideous!



This is how you paint an A340....


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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:20 am

I think the worst thing about TAP's new livery is that it won't age well. A year from now you will see some people who are saying what a great livery it is, get tired of it and start asking when a new one is coming. The old livery was far more appealing in that regard and as result it lasted a long time. Look at LH and AF for example: simple and classic and you can look at it all day long and don't feel like you need to wear sunglasses  Smile
In the long run, this livery is going to cost TAP a whole lot of money cause they will need a new one much sooner. That sort of colors haven't been fashionale since the 80's  Smile
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:01 am

Hi!

Airbazar, a type of comment like the one you're saying - "In the long run, the livery is going to cost TAP a whole lot of money cause they will need a new one much sooner..." - can only come from someone that don't understand portuguese culture and the way we think! I tell you something, TAP livery will last more than UA, DL, AC, BA and others do you know why? Because;

1 - TAP is wisely using their money, something that UA, DL, AC and BA didn't. How much did it cost to those airlines to just repaint their fleet again after just a few years???? Is that cost saving mentallity? No! But you know, Portugal is small country and we are not has rich has USA, Canada or UK, so we must save money here!!! That's why TAP is comming out from the red after many years!
2 - Even if the people don't live the livery I'm sure they will keep flying TAP planes, what matters to people if they are well treated, they get confortable and they are safe and get on time to their destination, and TAP does that really well!!!
3 - TAP used an even "worst" livery from the Caravelle VI-R CS-TCA on in 1962 until 1978 when a Boeing 727-200 Adv. CS-TBW came with the livery before this one...16 years passed, so at least from now on until 2020 TAP will stick with the present one...if not longer!
And finnally to Airforum, I liked the photos you've posted, but I think you forgot some airlines from the middle east, like Kuwait Airways, MEA, Egyptair, EL AL, Iran Air, THY, etc. etc. I could come with a few more....these ones I told you don't have enough white???? Maybe yes!!!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:36 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 36):
Airbazar, a type of comment like the one you're saying - "In the long run, the livery is going to cost TAP a whole lot of money cause they will need a new one much sooner..." - can only come from someone that don't understand portuguese culture and the way we think! I tell you something, TAP livery will last more than UA, DL, AC, BA and others do you know why? Because;

A nao ser o simples fact de que eu sou Portugues  Smile
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:54 am

To CV990: I was going to comment on the TAP livery too - one of my favourite airline which I flew with many many flights on the 727, 707 and 747 - but I got afraid of you  biting 

Seems like you like to bite everyone here at the forum?

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:16 pm

Hi!

Airbazar, the fact that you are portuguese doesn't mean that you understand what's going on in TAP and understand the reality of our country, TAP is a state owned airline and the money needs to be wisely spent. Like I told you TAP CANNOT afford to do liveries like Gulf Air, Qatar, and all those exotic ones that you see from Asian airlines. Another thing is the fact that I would like you to comment and the 3 issues I came up in my last post, what do you have to say of those? That's the important thing, please I wait for your feedback!
SwissBrazil, you don't need to be affraid of me, I'm not a "dog", simply I like good arguments on discussions, when it comes to dry ones of course I need to stress out some stuff, did you notice most of people say about TAP livery? They don't like it but they don't know why, then they try to compare TAP livery with Singapore ones, then they say that TAP will change in a few years, and they forget airlines like the ones I mentioned and they don't say a word...it's very easy to say that liveries stinks but they tend to forget the real issue......you flew in TAP 727/707/747, probably you still flew with the TAP most basic livery I've ever seen, now tell me, did that livery affect you? Of course not....you flew TAP because you know how good they are!!!! It's the same with me, but TAP at this moment needs to thing more about other stuff than their livery, they came with a very simple one, but it's one that it fits in the TAP reality of XXI century....and in the end actually it's not that bad!!!! It's not the top one, it's not the bottom one, it's simply a livery that reflects Portugal colours, Portugal country with bright and fresh colours, it reflects Portugal itself, looks like an LCC???? Maybe, but it's not!!!! It's TAP!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:07 pm

Airbazar,

Although I am not Portuguese, I have visited Portugal many times and I understand there culture, as I said in my last post TAP are trying to be 'contemporary' and 'minimalistic', but what I forgot to add was that people who live outside of Portugal and who are not immersed in the Portuguese culture, the livery doesn't look good or mean anything to them, but I can tell you one thing, the people who live in Portugal love it!

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:12 pm

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 27):
I'm not saying that these are my favorite liveries. Simply implying that it's possible to have nice euro-white liveries. Sometimes less is more.

Actually the SK picture you link does not show a Eurowhite livery. SK's fuse colours are more between grey and silver-ish.  Wink
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:07 am

I like the new livery better than the old one even if I agree that it could be improved with painted winglets and engine cowlings... I also don't like the type of green of the A, in the tAp word. But I like the idea of this livery.
But anyway... we forget airlines doesn't care that much about livery especially if they are trying to get costs low.. and passengers that board with airBridges aren't that interested like us...

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:21 am

I'm Portuguese,
I Like TP

The New Pain Shame is UGLY

The Problem is not the Money, or the Portuguese Mentality, or TP philosophy, the Paint Shame just doesn’t exist.

Old Colours is much better

TP Lost is Famous “Lettering” logo.

AF Paint Shame is a 20 Years old, I Bet the TP Paint Shame, don’t last 10!

By the Way, CV990, I really don’t understand why People don’t respect others opinion, I don’t like, Period. You like, better for you.
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:01 pm

Hi!

Br343, first of all I respect everyone here and respect everyone opinion when there is a basis for that....simply say that don't like period like you are saying demonstrates that you don't have a truly founded opinion, in that case what do you want is confront someone...so like you said, better for you....I'm not going in that direction!
Another thing that you wanted to emphasise is that fact that you're portuguese, well I lived in San Joaquin Valley/CA and there are a lot of portuguese people there...but they have any idea what's going on in Portugal.
I don't know how often you come to Portugal ( you live in Brazil has I can see ) but one thing is to come and spend vacations, spend some time, have good food, relate to family, relate to friends during a short period of time, and the other thing is to live here on a day by day basis!
You say that the problem of Portugal is not money....those words can only come from someone that don't live here...so I think you should get in some portuguese daily newspapers and understand that indeed Portugal have a lack of money, investment growth ( 2005 the growth was mere 0,3%....do you think Portugal can generate money with a growth like that??? ), etc. etc.
No finnally you'll need to elaborate what portuguese mentality have to deal with TAP livery....I sincerelly don't understand that, please explain me!
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 7):

MajorNelson, take a look at this other Portuguese airliner, called LuzAir: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1031298/L/

This Power Point logo *is* the most stupid and uninspired livery I've seen in a long time...

Anyway, the more I see it, the less I like the new TAP livery. It's so... white.

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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:33 am

This Power Point logo *is* the most stupid and uninspired livery I've seen in a long time...

you could argue that's an incomplete livery, TAP on the other hand.. well it's the gummi bear scheme, very cute.. also disgusting
 
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RE: First TAP A340-300 In New Colors!

Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:30 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 46):

True, you're right