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Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:42 pm

Jetstar International are set to announce to announce their routes at a press conference in Melbourne on Tuesday morning (9.30 am 11th April).

Any tips on the routes? I'm thinking Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Hawaii, Indonesia initially, and possibly even India.

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6thfreedom
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:50 pm

I think the routes in the intial stages will be pretty clear cut.

jetstar to take over some AO routes from cairnss, while others are handed back to QF for a little while.

I would also assume jetstar will operate mel/syd to bali.

from melbourne, there is a clear need for bangkok flights. honolulu is also an obvious market.

from sydney i think jetstar will take over qantas flights to honolulu. that should be a given. perhaps vietnam, although the vietnam airlines codeshare continues.

if the above is done, that pretty much uses up all 4-6 aircraft.
these markets are all existing, or where the qantas group already has a presence.

pretty low risk strategy if u ask me.
 
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:17 pm

geez, i was pretty close to the mark...

for those that are interested... announced this morning:

3pw syd-hnl [replace QF]
2pw syd-bali [replace AO]
3pw syd-phuket [new, although AO operated some charters last year]
3pw syd-sgn [new services. compete with VN. i wonder what will happen on the codeshare agreement there].

2pw mel-hnl [new services]
2pw mel-bali [replace AO]
3pw mel-bkk [new services. breaks TG monopoly]

daily syd-kix-bne-syd. [i mentioned this in a post a few months back. QF claims these to be new for the QF Group, but they will effectively replace JAL on the same sector. JAL was going to suspend in March 2006, but said it would continue and 'review' the situation in late 2006. this is the solution].

Very low risk strategy if you ask me.

Also, AO finishes in July 2006. However, most AO services ex-CNS maintained, operated on a wet-lease basis between AO and QF. QF aircraft, with AO cabin crew, and about 20% lower operating costs than if QF operated.

Interesting times...
 
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:25 pm

SYD/HNL is not replacing QF, it is in addition to the QF flights.

Though I would suspect QF will down grade from 743 to 763.

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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:35 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
3pw syd-hnl [replace QF]

No, this is in addational to QF's current three services, giving 6 weekly from SYD and two weekly from MEL.

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
3pw mel-bkk [new services. breaks TG monopoly]

Not mentioned in press release, source? Is there a second one?


Press release: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn...details?ArticleID=2006/apr06/Q3418

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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:45 pm

Gemuser,

I also saw it mentioned in one of the press releases, there has been at least 3.

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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:00 pm

Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.

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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:21 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 2):
geez, i was pretty close to the mark...

yep. good call.

in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.

thanks.

ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this...  Wink
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:11 pm

All those routes are confirmed are on Jetstar.com also

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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:16 pm

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 6):
Perhaps the most interesting thing for me in that press release is both a month for 787 delivery to Jetstar Int'l - August 2008, but also a preliminary seat count - 311. That must mean an entirely y configuration, perhaps with a few rows of y+.

The 2-class operation will have a J-class equivalent to QF domestic J. So, no Y+. But your point is taken. There can't be many rows of the premium class. I wonder if these figures are for 788 or -9, as I have heard JQ -8s will return to mainline when -9s become available. I think the eventual JQ fleet will be mainly -9s. Even at 9-abreast, it's pretty cramped fitting 311 into a 788. Certainly possible, but doesn't sound too pleasant for a 10hr flight.
 
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:52 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this...

Yeah, Ho Chi Minh City, the city formerly known as Saigon. It'll always be Saigon to me...
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 4):
No, this is in addational to QF's current three services, giving 6 weekly from SYD and two weekly from MEL.

I wonder how long this will last?? I have no doubt that within two years the sector will be handed over entirely to Jetstar

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
yep. good call.

in the future, when you put airport codes, could you use uppercase? the rollover feature is not smart enough to handle lowercase airport codes.

thanks.

ps - what is SGN? I'm assuming Saigon, and I'll know for sure as soon as I post this

Apologies. I was typing in a mad rush, and wasn't paying much attention. I also didn't realise that information on airport codes only worked when they were in caps.


I think the interesting part in all of this is where QF mainline will add services now that AO's B767's come offline, as willl perhaps the B747's operating to HNL etc...
 
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:46 pm

JQ announced SYD-KIX-BNE-SYD.
Will this mean the end to JL/JO as it's the same routing currently flown?
 
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RE: Jetstar International Routes TBA On Apr 11

Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:52 pm

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 12):
JQ announced SYD-KIX-BNE-SYD.
Will this mean the end to JL/JO as it's the same routing currently flown?

No-one knows, maybe when JAL enter oneworld it will go.
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