User avatar
LTU932
Topic Author
Posts: 13207
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:34 am

Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:44 am

This is truely curious, can somebody please fill me in?

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf96/393668_web.pdf
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
 
vfw614
Posts: 3304
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 12:34 am

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:50 am

Maybe this is just the paperwork that is required to operate charters during the European off-peak winter season ? Would be a good way to keep the fleet busy during the winter season which is always a problem for European LCCs. Aero Lloyd operated a couple of Airbus for US tour operators in the past and as they are no longer around, HLX might be interested to take over that work. They have just taken on Boeing 737-800s which will be definitely too big to fill during the winter. Maybe they will be heading across the pond ?
 
TriStar500
Posts: 4411
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 1999 9:50 pm

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:58 am

Vfw614 got it right, HLX is "pulling an Aerolloyd" here.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
 
Humberside
Posts: 3225
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:44 am

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:59 am

The application is for charters, so Im surprised its not for HapagFly
Visit the Air Humberside Website and Forum
 
User avatar
LTU932
Topic Author
Posts: 13207
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:34 am

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:03 am

The curious thing is, they're only allowed to fly into the US with aircraft which have a max passenger capactity of 60 and max payload they can carry on those routes are 18,000 lbs. That's the strangest part of it.
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
 
Falcon Flyer
Posts: 1129
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2000 12:10 pm

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:58 am

Is HLX the ICAO identifier for Hapag Lloyd Express or just a popular abbreviation ? The reason I'm asking is that I've noticed Challenger 604s (and Citation Xs, IIRC) flying between the US and Germany recently using the HLX designator. Does Hapag also have a corporate operation on their certificate ? There's currently a HLX111 doing Dulles to Hannover as a Challenger. Maybe someone in Germany could elaborate.
My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
 
User avatar
LTU932
Topic Author
Posts: 13207
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:34 am

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:55 pm

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 5):
Is HLX the ICAO identifier for Hapag Lloyd Express or just a popular abbreviation ? The reason I'm asking is that I've noticed Challenger 604s (and Citation Xs, IIRC) flying between the US and Germany recently using the HLX designator. Does Hapag also have a corporate operation on their certificate ? There's currently a HLX111 doing Dulles to Hannover as a Challenger.

Yes, HLX is the ICAO code for Hapag-Lloyd Express, and their callsign is "Excellence". The Challenger and Citation X could make sense if we go through the restrictions the DOT approval has layed out, however, why would X3 start using such aircraft in the first place? Are they doing some dedicate charters for big corporations or something? Or perhaps they're starting up something similar to what Privatair is doing?

[Edited 2006-04-12 07:57:49]
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
 
TriStar500
Posts: 4411
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 1999 9:50 pm

RE: Hapag-Lloyd Express To Fly To The US?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:04 pm

Hapag Lloyd also has a small business jet division, so maybe these flights are covered by this document.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos