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Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:06 am

Any ideas on what type of planes small airlines like Cape Air will you use in the future as there seems to be less of a market for the 4-8 passenger twin engine prop planes nowadays? I suppose the C208 could be of some use but I would imagine the airlines would prefer a twin engine plane if they could have one. Any thoughts>
 
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:15 am

For missions that the 402 or the Navajo are often used for, there is no appropriate replacement. C208, PC-12s and other similar sized turboprops are virtually identical in passenger size (and often, better in performance), but turboprops are only efficient when cruising at the flight levels. Cape Air and similar 135 carriers use their 402s on such short segments (HYA-Islands are but 15 minutes) that turboprops are wildly fuel thirsty compared to piston twins.

Yes, there are also regulatory hurdles with single engine passengers ops, but these vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:24 am

Yeah speaking of small airlines how long are those B1900's gonna stay around down in Florida for CO connection?
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:48 am

Well, one of the only new comparable aircraft might be the Adam 500??
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:58 pm

Maybe this would be an ideal replacement.....

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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:03 pm

I think the B1900's will stay in Florida for CO Connection - because those planes are Gulfstream's planes now.

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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:14 pm

Gulfstream is also buying more E120s... expansion or replacement i can't say
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape A

Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:57 pm

Quoting AviationAddict (Thread starter):
Any ideas on what type of planes small airlines like Cape Air will you use in the future as there seems to be less of a market for the 4-8 passenger twin engine prop planes nowadays? I suppose the C208 could be of some use but I would imagine the airlines would prefer a twin engine plane if they could have one. Any thoughts>

I think (and hope) 5+ years down the road we'll see the likes of the BA609 taking up this role. Hopefully a commercial version of the quad tiltrotor can also replace some of the smaller regional jets, that'll really help free up slots at busy airports. Just my twocents 
 
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 4):
Maybe this would be an ideal replacement.....

A recent thread dealt wih the revival of the TwOtter, and there was a report about the sale of the rights to manufacture it.

Quoting 787engineer (Reply 7):
I think (and hope) 5+ years down the road we'll see the likes of the BA609 taking up this role

If the price is right, there might just be a business case for it.
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:47 am

The various ultra light jets in the 4-6 passenger range will probably grow to include commercial 10-20 pax versions.
 
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:47 am

Don't you think the cost of a 20 pax jet would be sufficiently higher than a 20pax jet, enough so to keep airlines buying props?
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RE: Future Aircraft For Small Airlines Like Cape Air?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 9):
The various ultra light jets in the 4-6 passenger range will probably grow to include commercial 10-20 pax versions.

But we already have them, and it's been a steady market for many years.
The VLJs fit a new market for transporting very few people relatively short distances (500 miles).

I still don't think jets are a economic option for very short flights.

The BA609 is a good idea, but I'm guessing won't be csot effective for those small airlines.


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