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Passports And Airplaines

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:56 pm

how easy would it be to get a stolen child out of the usa? they would need a passport to get out correct?. What if the passport was fake? are the laws the same as the 70s? only asking beacuse i research missing persons and a child went missing from california in the early 70s it was thought she could have been stolen and taken out of the usa what are the odds of something happening back then?. I know security is more higher and tighter than it was back then
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:59 pm

Well, there is no Immigration when you depart the United States so the only person checking is the airline agent. In this day in age, passport forgery is top quality. But then again, they would have to get by the Immigration Officer at the arrival airport.
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:15 pm

In Venezuela for a child to travel without his/her parents or at least one parent, he/she need to have a signed and registered authorization by the non-travelling parent. The authorization needs to be signed in front of a judge and registered as a formal document. The authorization is only valid for the exact flight, date and time. If the kid gets bumped from his/her flight, she/he can't fly unless he/she gets a new authorization.

We have passport control when leaving the country so it's a real pain in the ass.

I think the best solution is to have a national database where parents whom suspect that his/her kid is going to be taken away from the country by the other parent, add the kids name so that everytime a child checks-in for a flight, the inmigration agents searches the database for the kid's name.

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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:31 pm

In the US, under age must have letter signed by other parent if traveling with only one as Luis stated above.

I don't believe it is as restrictive as to flight number, date, etc here though. Of course back in the 70's you could pretty much get a ticket for just about anyone of any could pretty much put a kid on a flight questions asked!! One could almost put a baggage tag on a child and away they went. My grandfather would pretty much do the same for us as kids on the train! The FA may have been curious back then, but only to help out. WOW have things changed or what.

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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:38 pm

In Lebanon, domestic workers need to get a special permission from the government if they want to travel somewhere (Except back to their country of nationality)
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:39 am

this was a sorta a non parental abduction. the father was divorced from his wife. he was a doctor but had some problems with his mind u know he was going sorta crazy he met this man who had controled him the man was crazy as well and was a cult like person who brainwashed him they could have been involved in her disaperance but wouldnt have done it directly they would have eather paid someone for the child or vice versa. problem is the father died in the early 80s after his friend who brainwashed him passed away. the father took his own life and went to the grave with secrets. not even sure if she was taken out of the usa but anything is possible.
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:46 am

Never thought about that. When you leave Brasil, you go through immigration but leaving the USA, only the airline checks your passport. They don't even stamp it, do they? They do in Brasil. I wonder why the US doesn't impose immigration upon departure. Still, it would difficult to enter another country without proper documents.
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:58 am

Passports from my understanding are very hard to fake. They are now done electronically (they have a barcode to scan) and are generally good for 10 years. It costs about $100 for 10 years, I think $9.40 a year.

In the US, if a parent wanted to take a child out of the country, by law that parent must have permission of the other parent to do so. I think the law says 30 days max, but Im not sure.
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RE: Passports And Airplaines

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:03 am

To travel outside Brasil, a minor traveling with one parent must have a notarized statement from the other parent giving his/her okay. Even if a minor travels alone in Brasil, you must have the same notarized document otherwise the child can not travel. We've been there. Done that!

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