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United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:26 am

Transcripts of United Flight 93 were released today. From the way I read it the hijackers had control until the end and flew the airplane into the ground after they saw a threat from the brave souls who fought back. So sad to read this.


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:58 am

Disgusting, no other words for it.
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:11 am

As a common species, we can be so inexplicably cruel to each other.

I didn't read the transcript, by choice. The fact that it has been released annoys me and somewhat disgusts me, but what disgusts me more is the a-holes who took flight 93 and the other flights, all in the name of their 'god'.

Disgusting.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:45 am

09:39:11 -- Ah. Here's the captain; I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet,

09:39:21 -- Okay. That's ninety three calling?

09:39:24 -- One moment.

09:39:34 -- United ninety three. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.

09:39:42 -- And center execjet nine fifty six. That was the transmission,

09:39:47 -- Okay. Ah. Who called Cleveland?

09:39:52 -- Executive jet nine fifty six, did you understand that transmission?

09:39:56 -- Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board,

09:39:58 -- That was all that you got out of it also?

09:40:01 -- Affirmative.



A few years ago I listened to UA93's communcation with ZOB, I remember hearing this part where the terrorists thought they were on the PA, but they were actually on the VHF freq with ZOB. Scary stuff, may Iblis reserve a special place in hell for those ignorant cowards.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:14 am

Sad that these guys praise Allah the entire time. Goes to show you how brainwashed they were.

Everyone has their own right to believe what they want religiouslly speaking, but no one has the right to take lives in the name of religion.

Allah this, Allah that in the transcript. Allah was not there, and these men were not martyrs for any cause.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:22 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Sad that these guys praise Allah the entire time. Goes to show you how brainwashed they were.

Everyone has their own right to believe what they want religiouslly speaking, but no one has the right to take lives in the name of religion.

Allah this, Allah that in the transcript. Allah was not there, and these men were not martyrs for any cause.

UAL

I can rest easy that those freaks are burning in hell,,,,, where they belong. No heaven will be set for those punk murderers.

Kind of on the same subject..... Did they put any of the freaks on the memorials set? And please tell me they did not ship the freaks bodies and personal belongings back to their families!!!!?????
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Allah this, Allah that in the transcript. Allah was not there, and these men were not martyrs for any cause.

FSM will do nasty things to these guys with his noodly apppendage.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:18 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Sad that these guys praise Allah the entire time.

For some reason it reminds me of MS 990, only in that translation it was presented as "I relied on god" about 15 times. Does anyone else see the pattern?

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:36 pm

I hope to hell the pax beat the living daylights out of the muslim hijackers before the plane went down.
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:37 pm

Is anyone else, especially those from UA and AA who were working on September 11th, having a hard time recently? With the upcoming movie and the trial of Moussoui (sp?) on everywhere, the calm I usually display has been cracking.

I realize that some my have put this behind them in some fashion. But others still deal with it daily. Most of the time these feelings only begin to arise in me in August. But with all the hype in the media, I think its begun early this year for me. I had so hoped after last year that I was getting through this.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:01 pm

that's terrible.... makes me sick.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:26 pm

I visited Shanksville and was deeply moved by this story. R.I.P.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:28 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Allah this, Allah that in the transcript. Allah was not there, and these men were not martyrs for any cause.

God was there! He wasn't in the cockpit, He was in the back with the passengers and remaining crew.

Whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:53 pm

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 7):
For some reason it reminds me of MS 990, only in that translation it was presented as "I relied on god" about 15 times. Does anyone else see the pattern?

Yeah i guess God doesn't like us
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:56 pm

That's sad, very sad, once again...
Hopefully something like that will never happen again.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:03 pm

http://www.flight93memorialproject.org/


A link for a planned memorial at Shanksville
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 12):
Whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me.

Some of the most horrible things in human history have been done in the name of God. Too bad those people never really understood, and understand the true nature of God, just look at the ten commandments. The most important guideline, or even rules everybody should live by. And it includes "thou shalt not kill". Not, "thou shalt kill only in my name" or whatever. Or that quote you gave UALPHLCS is also a very nice one.

For the record, the ten commandments are not solely for christians, they are also in the Thora and Koran.

These people have been judged, and they are not where they expected to be...
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 16):
For the record, the ten commandments are not solely for christians, they are also in the Thora and Koran.

I honestly never knew that; granted, I am not that religious of a person, but I always assumed that they were directed to those who follow the Bible.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 17):
I honestly never knew that; granted, I am not that religious of a person, but I always assumed that they were directed to those who follow the Bible.

The old testament is the same as the Tora and the Koran is also remarkably similar. I guess you didn't know that muslims believe in Jesus as well? Only they call him Issa, and is not the son of God (how could he be, if he were the son of God, he would be a God too, and there is only one God) but one of the four prophets (the most well known of course is Muhammed, the fifth, Issa is the fourth, and the one who is supposed to be reborn, and when that happens, to bring paradise on earth) The other prophets are Abraham, Noach, and I forgot the last one. They do have a bit different names (arabic) I am sure some of my muslim a.net friends can help me out here.

So in many ways Issa is the most important prophet, even more than Muhammed, who wrote down the Koran (or Qu'ran). I guess it would make sense that we all worship the same God if the Bible, Tora and Koran are so similar huh? Puts all that petty bickering between religions in a whole other perspective.

That's why I always say that the differences between the people is not so much religious, as it is cultural.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:51 pm

THey interviewed the wife of the UA93 pilot on Good Morning America this AM. All I can say is that she should be proud to have known and be married to such an individual.

The pilot was basically injured, perhaps mortally, but even as he sat hurt and broken in the cockpit with the hijackers flying the plane, he was pulling fuses and making life generally difficult for them. Part of his job was to run the simulators for other pilots - in other words he was used to "breaking planes" and having pilots figure out what to do. The hijacker chumps didn't stand a chance of being able to fly that plane successfully and fulfill their sick mission. The passengers and crew on UA93 will be remembered forever as heroes. They didn't wake up that Tuesday morning expecting to be but that is how they died. The terrorists will be forever reviled for being evil hell-doers who couldn't even finish their twisted mission; too bad it cost the heroes their lives because this story would have been so much better if they would have been able to wrangle control away from the hijackers and somehow land the 757 safely.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting Richierich (Reply 19):
too bad it cost the heroes their lives because this story would have been so much better if they would have been able to wrangle control away from the hijackers and somehow land the 757 safely.

Indeed, too bad they didn't get the plane under control.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 11):
I visited Shanksville and was deeply moved by this story. R.I.P.

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Thanks Bjornstrom...


Yeah, that Allah is quite the popular fellow...

Quote:
In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.


In the name of Allah. In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God, but Allah.

Allah is Greatest. Allah is Greatest. Oh guys. Allah is Greatest

Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most Gracious.

Trust in Allah, and in him.

Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh Gracious.

Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest

Allah is the Greatest.

Allah is the Greatest.

Allah is the Greatest.

Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.

Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.

I hope they're burning in hell.
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Sad that these guys praise Allah the entire time. Goes to show you how brainwashed they were.

Everyone has their own right to believe what they want religiouslly speaking, but no one has the right to take lives in the name of religion.

Allah this, Allah that in the transcript. Allah was not there, and these men were not martyrs for any cause.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:46 pm

So that we can put a face to the transcript,

 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:47 pm

There are many sad aspects of the entire attack to me.

More people have died in the name of religion than almost any other cause. It is VERY easy to set aside those pesky "thou shalt not kill" and "whatever you do unto the least of me, you do unto me" and "treat thy neighbor as thyself" when you convince yourself that you are in a state of war.

Were the hijackers brainwashed? Absolutely. Are they the only people who have been brainwashed by religion? Not a chance.

I am sorry that thousands of Americans died on that horrible day. I am sorry that thousands upon thousandsof Jews and Muslims died during the Inquisition. I am sorry that thousands upon thousands of black Sudanese have died at the hands of Muslims in Darfur. I am sorry that thousands upon thousands of Myanmarese and North Koreans have died of starvation in the name of "self-reliance" and devotion to their egotistical and psychotic leaders. I am sorry that gay people suffer in countries around the world because of humans' preoccupation with stifling sexuality in all forms.

If we don't learn from history (and work to change it), we are doomed to repeat it. Honor the memory of the brave people who died that day, but learn what hysteria can do and work to stop it.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:32 am

I have always had this question...forgive me if its a silly one...
How did the FBI or whoever found out that those were the guys who hijacked the flight? OK... they had the passenger list...but was it solely based on passenger name?? If so...that's so racist...

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 27):
If we don't learn from history (and work to change it), we are doomed to repeat it. Honor the memory of the brave people who died that day, but learn what hysteria can do and work to stop it.

This, unfortunately, is something that the human race seems incapable of doing. We are set to repeat our mistakes over and over again...  crying 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
but no one has the right to take lives in the name of religion.

Tell that to the Christians. I seem to remember some Holy Wars?
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:00 am

Has the flight 93 movie not been released in the USA? i have seen it several times and it is very sad but it is a tribute to those on flight 93.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 18):
I guess you didn't know that muslims believe in Jesus as well? Only they call him Issa

I was reading through parts of the Qur'an, and I found that both (Issa and Jesus) are correct when addressing or talking about Him.

Quoting DTW757 (Reply 25):
Quoting NumberTwelve (Reply 24):
You mean, as war mongers and criminal ? So maybe they will meet GWB there, who is responsible for more murder than these bloody terrorists.

That is completely uncalled for!

I'm not going to be the one to take away from this thread, and transform it into something about politics, but its NOT totally uncalled for to call Dubya a war monger...or any other adjective you would like. His stance on illegal wiretapping just lends more to the fact that he doesn't care what happens as long as his way is getting promoted.
Without turning this into a Bush-bash, I felt that needed to be said.

Quoting NumberTwelve (Reply 21):
Quoting UAL747 (Reply 4):
Goes to show you how brainwashed they were.

Also people in the so called "civilized" world are brain washed, they believe what media writes, they believe what their government tells. So nothing new.

Look at the number of people who read those trashy magazines you find at the checkout at the supermarket. Sadly enough, there are people that believe this crap. There are enough people in the world that lead sad enough lives to believe that, for example, NASA would send up a cat to rid the space station of mice.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:48 am

Quoting VasanthD (Reply 28):
How did the FBI or whoever found out that those were the guys who hijacked the flight? OK... they had the passenger list...but was it solely based on passenger name??

The flight attendants on the plane identified the terrorists by name and seat assignment during the hijacking and communicated this information to UAL headquarters.
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:01 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 30):
Tell that to the Christians. I seem to remember some Holy Wars?

I hate this type of argument. While this DID occur, it by no means justifies radical Islam. Just because the Christians did it way back when, gives no right for the Muslims to do it. What the Christians did then as wrong as what radical Muslims are doing today.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:16 am

If Allah is so great, how come he couldn't make the plane go where the terrorists wanted? Brain-dead terrorists.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 31):
Has the flight 93 movie not been released in the USA? i have seen it several times and it is very sad but it is a tribute to those on flight 93.

http://www.united93movie.com/index.php

If this is the movie which you're talking about, then no it is not released in the USA until April 28.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 27):
PanAm747

Thank you for that.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:42 am

Personally, It sickens me to know that Hollywood will be, to some extent, profiting from a tragedy like this. Yes, Hollywood said that they would donate 10% from the first three days to the flight 93 memorial, but they will still make a killing off something bad that happened. I know that Schindler's List, and other movies are based on tragic stories, but to have a movie come out about 9/11 just seems wrong still. I think that there really needs to be a longer period of time to pass before a movie comes out.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:44 am

The people who are dissing this movie do NOT want anyone to feel any anger toward terrorists in general. Remember, there are legions of people who feel that this is all 'BUSH's' fault; anything that goes counter to that finely-crafted opinion must be squashed and swept under the rug. They say so under the guise of it being so 'sad' and 'hurtful' and yadda yadda. But what they REALLY want is for people NOT to be reminded of who the real enemy is. And to see this movie is to be reminded of the 'real' enemy here. To that, I say 'GOOD!'

This will be a 'must-see' movie. All you people who want to play by the 'It's-All-Bush's fault' playbook, you go right ahead. But I don't want some Katie Couric chickie or full-of-himself Chris Matthews telling ME that we shouldn't go see it. Let them play their revisionist history games.

And you know what? If there's a scene or 2 showing an A320 that really is supposed to be a 757...so be it. The story will and should over-ride that.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:53 am

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a movie. Movie's about tragedies in history are made all the time. Look at how many Vietnam War movies were made, JFK assasination, WWII movies....

It only seems fitting that Hollywood produce a movie about what could be the most pivitol moment in US history. The hard part comes when the writers try to do the event justice in the film. 9/11 remakes have to be extremely hard to do. First, because we know little about what was going on inside the planes. Therefore, I do not see how they can base one single movie after United 93. All we have to go on is the cockpit voice recorders, the rest is just speculation except for the cell phone calls from the plane, and even those weren't extremely descriptive.

Secondly, the tragedy was so wide-scaled that it would be hard to make a plot line for the movie because it would be too broad, too long, and confusing.

What I can see them doing is finding the most "tragic of tragic" stories of certain individuals, tie them together, and make the plot off of that. Kind of like they did in Pearl Harbor, and tied it in with a love story.

Otherwise, I just don't see how any of these movies will be spectacular in any way. If they screw them up, expect them to be B-rated movies, with B-rated actors, that will rerun on the Lifetime Channel. The huge amounts of news footage really is the only way to have an accurate historical account of the event.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 42):
The people who are dissing this movie do NOT want anyone to feel any anger toward terrorists

Personally, I'm not saying that terrorism is good. I'm ALSO not saying that it's ALL Bush's fault. There were a LOT of factors that went into 9/11. From the breakdown of emergency communication to the breakdown of intelligence agencies, its not fair to say that its so-and-so's fault. The events of Sept. 11 are carried by everyone.

Quoting Tbnist03 (Reply 32):
Without turning this into a Bush-bash

I don't want this to be a big fat blamefest either. Yes, the terrorists are wrong. I definitely feel anger towards terrorists. I know that I feel sick and angry every time I think of what they have done all over the world. Killing innocent people and forcing others to live in fear is wrong. Period.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 42):
But what they REALLY want is for people NOT to be reminded of who the real enemy is. And to see this movie is to be reminded of the 'real' enemy here.

With that quote, it sounds like you're saying that people from the Middle East, or from Arabic descent are the enemy. Is that what you're saying? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:35 am

Quoting ORD (Reply 33):

Thanks.

Quoting Mbird139 (Reply 31):
getting PTV's installed on all Lufthansa planes.

And increase the seat pitch too...

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting Tbnist03 (Reply 41):
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 42):
But what they REALLY want is for people NOT to be reminded of who the real enemy is. And to see this movie is to be reminded of the 'real' enemy here.

With that quote, it sounds like you're saying that people from the Middle East, or from Arabic descent are the enemy. Is that what you're saying? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not sure how you deduce that from his post. More likely, the movie will remind people about the dangers of radical Islam, the adherents of which were the hijackers on that fateful day.

There's a belief held among many that, somehow, the views and actions of the terrorists are just as legitimate a "viewpoint" as an evangelical Christian who goes to church every Sunday. Sorry, but such cultural relativism is utterly naive and is going to get us all killed, most likely in a manner similar to 9/11.
 
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:40 am

Quoting Longhaulheavy (Reply 43):
There's a belief held among many that, somehow, the views and actions of the terrorists are just as legitimate a "viewpoint" as an evangelical Christian who goes to church every Sunday. Sorry, but such cultural relativism is utterly naive and is going to get us all killed, most likely in a manner similar to 9/11.

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Say what you will about Bush, say what you will about Iraq or Afghanistan, say what you will about the Great American Satan. At the very least retrospective justification of 9/11 is a fools oppinion. It doesn't matter.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 31):
I hate this type of argument. While this DID occur, it by no means justifies radical Islam. Just because the Christians did it way back when, gives no right for the Muslims to do it. What the Christians did then as wrong as what radical Muslims are doing today.

I'm in total agreement with you, UAL. Anybody who uses the argument "the Christians did all those years ago" loses my respect immediately. As if that is really an argument.....

Also, blaming Bush for 9/11 is more than short-sighted, its inaccurate. Sure Bush's foreign policy may leave a lot to be desired and he has drawn more ire from me than most recent US Presidents. But that does not mean Bush is responsible for a bunch of terrorists killing thousands of innocents - including many of the peaceful Islamic faith, I might add - by taking advantage of one of the many sacred freedoms this society offers. I'm sure W has been reminded of that fateful Tuesday every day since it happened, in one form or another. But he is no more responsible for it happening than Clinton was for the first WTC attack or for Oklahoma City.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Richierich (Reply 42):
Also, blaming Bush for 9/11 is more than short-sighted, its inaccurate. Sure Bush's foreign policy may leave a lot to be desired and he has drawn more ire from me than most recent US Presidents. But that does not mean Bush is responsible for a bunch of terrorists killing thousands of innocents - including many of the peaceful Islamic faith, I might add - by taking advantage of one of the many sacred freedoms this society offers. I'm sure W has been reminded of that fateful Tuesday every day since it happened, in one form or another. But he is no more responsible for it happening than Clinton was for the first WTC attack or for Oklahoma City.

The argument that Bush is at fault for 9/11 is weak at best. We all knew what his foreign policy was going to be before he was elected, but the planning of the attacks occurred way before Bush came into light. Whatever the reason for 9/11, no one can make a justified claim that Bush or his administration was at fault. I'm not a Bush supporter, but to blaim the administration for 9/11 is stupid.

For all those conspiracy theorists out there who think the administration orchestrated such an event are even more out of line. Bin Laden would have a lot easier time organizing such a plot because his beaurocracy is much much smaller than the US presidential one. Leaps and bounds of secrets would have to be kept, and large deals to be made before the US administration could pull anything off like that.

Finally, feel free to blame Bush for attacks against our soldiers in Iraq, and against innocent civilians, because those were short planned attacks and in response to our middle eastern policy.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 37):
It only seems fitting that Hollywood produce a movie about what could be the most pivitol moment in US history

Actually, I am all for their making of the movie; and yes, I hope that they make zillions - for one simple reason.

I remember right after 9/11 all the commercials about fighting terrorism about going on with your life, and not letting the a*holes win; well, this is Hollywierd's way, and for this, I applaud them.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:09 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 43):
Leaps and bounds of secrets would have to be kept, and large deals to be made before the US administration could pull anything off like that.

I was watching the conspiracy theorist video that was posted to this site this morning (look through the threads from today) and the only thing I could think about was precisely that - you, in a sense, are asking for hundreds (at least) of people to keep the deaths of 3,000 Americans a secret. I think the power of conscience wins out...
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:29 am

This is most likely a stupid question, but is "executive jet 956" just another plane in the area that heard the transmission? And it's Cleveland center that's asking them what they heard?

09:39:34 -- United ninety three. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.

09:39:42 -- And center execjet nine fifty six. That was the transmission,

09:39:47 -- Okay. Ah. Who called Cleveland?

09:39:52 -- Executive jet nine fifty six, did you understand that transmission?

09:39:56 -- Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board,

09:39:58 -- That was all that you got out of it also?

09:40:01 -- Affirmative.

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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting DSMflyer (Reply 46):
This is most likely a stupid question, but is "executive jet 956" just another plane in the area that heard the transmission? And it's Cleveland center that's asking them what they heard?

Yes - it's a bizjet that was in the area.
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 37):
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a movie. Movie's about tragedies in history are made all the time. Look at how many Vietnam War movies were made, JFK assasination, WWII movies....



Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 44):
Actually, I am all for their making of the movie; and yes, I hope that they make zillions - for one simple reason.

While I understand you reasoning I still am hesitant to say it's time for a movie. I think its a shame that 4 years after people are begining to forget. That didn't happen in WWII with Pearl Harbor. So in that regard I think people should be reminded.

On the other hand, UAL747 do you work for UA? I did. I was working that day, I was flying to ORD that day. I knew one of the F/As I know CS agents from BOS who were suppoed to be on fligth 175. It has had a profound effect on my life. I couldn't watch to Discovery Channel movie, I tried but couldn't get through it. I may try to goto this film but I'm not sure of my reaction.

I asked before and I'll ask it again now, are there any AA or UA employees still dealing with this issue especially now with the movie hype and the Moussoui case?
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RE: United Flight 93 Cockpit Transcripts

Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 48):
On the other hand, UAL747 do you work for UA?

No, I don't work for UA. But, as a citizen of the world, US, and and airliner fan, I was very shocked as well. Thoughts of it still haunt me, and I mean badly. That day was probably the worst day of my life as far as fear goes. After that day, for at least 6 months I'd wake up in full sweats and panic attacks.

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