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Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:31 am

I was heading back home this afternoon it was about 6p I knew MP645 AMS-MIA would arrive sometime soon so I decided to stop by the airport to see if I'd catch it to my luck 3 planes later I see it coming down towards runway 9 at MIA but I noticed the plane was coming in at a very high altitude and it was coming down pretty fast!! I for a moment thought something bad was going to happen then all of a sudden I hear this very loud sound as the captain applied full power retrated the wheels and started to climb making some very steep left turn. I stayed there to see it go around then like at around 6:25p I see it coming down this time everything was done perfectly and the flight was ended with a very smooth landing...what a way to end a 10 hour flight!! I think I may have overreacted to this but it just wasn't your typical Go-around.. It was pretty exciting to watch and I was very happy to see it land.


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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:12 am

Go-arounds are great to watch. I remember the first one I can remember, an Iberoa A343 approaching 27L at ORD around '98. He was about 1/2 mile from touchdown, and to hear him applying max thrust.....That scared the )%)#(&)#$ out of me! Now, go-arounds are no biggy. I saw two at ORD today. An AA MD-80 and a UA 735. (I'm surprised the 'media" didn't write some stupid article about it, or have a "special report" on the TV about it tonite.  smile  )
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting MIA767 (Thread starter):
but it just wasn't your typical Go-around..

Well, there is no 'typical Go-around'.
I'm sure it was standard procedure and nothing too out of the ordinary  Smile


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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:38 am

Seen at least three Go-Arounds this week... 5X 741F, KZ 744F and a CX A333... But I'll not post a topic for each one  Smile

P.S. How did you know the Captain was in command?
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:43 am

I saw it today too!..Coming home on the 826 (the highway next to the airport)Many people were hitting their brakes beacuse the plane was at such a weird angle.
 
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting MIA767 (Thread starter):
started to climb making some very steep left turn. I stayed



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 2):
I'm sure it was standard procedure and nothing too out of the ordinary

Well, let's say that SOP would have been a right turn ... http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0603/00257IL9.PDF  Wink

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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:20 am

Quoting MIA767 (Thread starter):
and started to climb making some very steep left turn



Quoting LVTMB (Reply 5):
SOP would have been a right turn

Yes...MA for 9 sends you out to Virginia Key so as to avoid traffic on 26L/8R. I don't know if the worst pilots in the world fly into MIA or what. But I see more missed approaches executed on 27/9. Hell that still leaves 4k ft to play with even in a 74. Granted I am there a lot, but 30/12 is a lot trickier than anything else.
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 5):
Well, let's say that SOP would have been a right turn

Well, nobody said it was a standard Missed Approach...just a go-around.

The tower will give whatever heading is necessary and then to call departure.

A visual go-around almost never follows a missed approach procedure...just the quickest/safest way to get back onto final.


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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:19 pm

Yeah, it was a left turn not a right turn I think I know my right from left  Wink
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:48 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 2):
I'm sure it was standard procedure and nothing too out of the ordinary



Quoting Bond007 (Reply 7):
Well, nobody said it was a standard Missed Approach...just a go-around.

Yes, someone did. Precisely my point.  mischievous 

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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:05 pm

OK, I guess I didn't mean 'standard' as being a Missed Approach.

A go-around is a standard maneuver for the crew (is what I meant), and can be unrelated to a MA.

I assume this was a visual approach, so most probably did not follow the MA procedure.


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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:23 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 3):
How did you know the Captain was in command

Isn't it usual that on the outbound leg the Captain is in command and on the inbound flight the First Officer?
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:53 pm

Quote:
Isn't it usual that on the outbound leg the Captain is in command and on the inbound flight the First Officer?

well what is 'usual'. you have the usual 'its writen in the manual', the usual: 'usually this and that happens'. but usually the capten and first officer just talk about it.
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:03 pm

Wow, cool! Ive seen a go around before when I was at KPDX spotting with S12PPL! Heres a picture I took, its a Alaska Airlines MD-82 doing a go around because of birds, this was quite rescent, and my first time seeing one.  
Heres the picture I took

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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/KPDX/DSC03446.jpg You can clearly see some of the birds in that picture  Smile
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting Larspl (Reply 12):
ut usually the capten and first officer just talk about it.

OK, so they just talk about it and agree, this leg I fly that leg you fly?
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RE: Martinair Go-around At MIA

Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 3):
P.S. How did you know the Captain was in command?

One would hope the captain was "in command"...
Now, was he pilot flying?  Wink

More seriously, do I recall reading somewhere that the decision to discontinue an approach can be made by either pilot (on the understanding thet if either calls it both will proceed to go around), or is it the captain's call (i.e., whether he is flying or not?). Or is that a matter for each airline?

I am thinking of the AF runway overrun, and the (baseless) speculation in the media (and even here) that the pilots disagred about whether to do a touch and go or slow when they landed long.

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