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VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:33 am

While spotting here at LHR on a regular basis, I regularly see an aircraft with a VP registration. The VP-registered aircraft I've photographed at LHR include a VIP 747SP (VP-BAT), Aeroflot 767s and A321s (eg. VP-BDI and VP-BWN), and Uzbekistan Airways 757s and 767s (eg. VP-BUD and VP-BUE).

Where do VP-numbers come from? Why are aircraft from diverse countries registered this way? What is the significance of VP-registrations?

I have been trying to post my photos of the above aircraft on here, but it doesn't seem to work either way (either by using "maid" or [img] methods).

Please let me know more about where VP-numbers come from. Thanks!

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:33 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration
(do Ctrl-F and enter VP for the search and you can see them all)

Its for territories of the UK...the first letter after the dash will tell you which specific territory...

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Why are aircraft from diverse countries registered this way? What is the significance of VP-registrations?

Has something to do with saving taxe IIRC. Many are VP-C** Cayman Islands and VP-B Bermudas - you know what they are famous for.

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:46 am

Quoting USAFHummer (Reply 1):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration
(do Ctrl-F and enter VP for the search and you can see them all)

Its for territories of the UK...the first letter after the dash will tell you which specific territory...

Actually, this Wikipedia article does not mention the 2-letter VP- prefix at all, instead it has 3-letter VP prefixes (VPC- and VPB-, for example).

Where would these examples below come from?

*VP-BAT is a Qatari VIP 747SP, owned by Worldwide Aircraft Holding (at BOH)

*VP-BDI and VP-BWN are an Aeroflot 767 and A321, respectively

*VP-BUD and VP-BUE are an Uzbekistan 757 and 767, respectively

Would these aircraft be "owned" or registered to some holding company, based in some British territory, according to Jorge1812 (reply 2)?

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:25 am

There are a lot of leasing companies which base their holdings out of Bermuda and Ireland. You'll see unusual things like Bermudan registered Aeroflot planes and Irish registered Alitialia planes.

I believe that Aeroflot is a special case. I seem to remember others posting on the board that there are tax implications for registering non-Russian aircraft with Russian registrations, therefore Aeroflot gets around it by registering all their Boeing and Airbus aircraft in Bermuda.
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:31 am

Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 3):
Actually, this Wikipedia article does not mention the 2-letter VP- prefix at all, instead it has 3-letter VP prefixes (VPC- and VPB-, for example).


Here's a much more detailed list....
http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$p.../reg-prefix.html!ref*prefix_p.html

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:00 pm

A lot of private jets are registered VP-. I think its cheaper and easier to put it on the Bermuda register, however i don't know for sure.
 
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:16 pm

The same with Aruban registered planes (P4-***). Trump's 727-23 is also registered in Bermuda (VP-BDJ). I 've also see VP-BEL BBJ.
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:45 am

As I tried to post in my thread-starter, here are some photos of VP-registered aircraft I've shot at LHR:


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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:18 am

The VP registration is also used by some private jets (Roman Abramovich's 767 is VP registered if I'm not mistaken).
Here in Colombia Aces Colombia (and West Caribbean Airways to a lesser extent) used that registration in their A320s and ATR-42s.
Something to do with taxes as mentioned and with lessor conditions on leasing.
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:42 am

In Wikipedia read 'VP-B' for 'VPB', 'VP-C' for 'VPC' etc. They have missed out the hyphen presumably because it is the third letter (after the hyphen) that identifies the territory. So - as can be seen below - VP-C is a Cayman Islands registration:

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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:30 pm

The VP is new After Fall of HKG and Refusal of Cathay to use propper B- Reg..SO all VR were Given to China...and VP... Where Created...So for Expample VRB-XXX Was changed to VPB-XXX
 
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:14 pm

The 767 of Mr Abramovich is not vp VP registered is actually under the reg P4 something.

A little look and it is the Netherlands Antilles
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:23 am

Roman's 767 is P4-MES . Saw it in LAX in November !
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:39 am

Ahhh... I confused it then, thanks for the correction.
I still think there's a big bizjet registered VP
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:36 am

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 14):
I still think there's a big bizjet registered VP

There are many 737 BBJs and Gulfstreams in the photo database with VP- registrations.

BBJs listed include VP-BBT, -BBJ, -BBU, -BRT, -BJB, -BFA, -BRM, -BBW, -BMC, -BEL. There are 17 pages of BBJ photos with VP- regs. The above regs are found in the first 5 pages.
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:38 am

Yes, but I mean... a REALLY big one.
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:57 am

I'll throw in one more list: http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/regprefixcur.asp

Isn't it ironic how multi-million $$ VIP jets are registered in fiscal paradises?
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting Cospn (Reply 11):
The VP is new After Fall of HKG and Refusal of Cathay to use propper B- Reg..SO all VR were Given to China...and VP... Where Created...So for Expample VRB-XXX Was changed to VPB-XXX

This is not accurate. The registration prefixes VP-, VR- and VQ- were assigned to British Colonies. Note that the VP- prefix actually predates the VR- prefix and was not therefore introduced to replace it.

There never were VRB- or VPB- or any similar three letter prefixes.

The actual first letter of the registration denoted which British Colony the aircraft came from. So VP-Bxx would be an aircraft registered in the Bahamas and VP-Mxx an aircraft registered in Malta:

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Similarly VP-Kxx and VP-Lxx registrations were from Kenya and the Leeward Islands:

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Likewise VR-Bxx was from Bermuda and VR-Cxx from the Cayman Islands:

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and VP-Sxx from Malaya (now Malaysia - more or less):

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Over the years most of the former Britiush Colonies gained full independence and chose a new national air registration prefix.

When Hong Kong changed status from a British Colony to a PRC Special Economic Area it was using the VR- prefix with the first letter of the actual registration being 'H'. It was decided before the handover of the territory that as so few colonies now existed the VR- prefix should be given exclusively to Hong Kong. The one (or were there others?) other colony still using a VR- prefix at that time was Cayman Islands (VR-Cxx). This was changed to VP-Cxx. So, for example, VR-CAL, 732 (22022/616) of Cayman Airways was reregistered VP-CAL.

Subsequently the VR- prefix disappeared when Hong Kong adopted the PRC B- prefix but with registration letters instead of the PRC's own registration numbers. So 742F (22306/460) of Cathay Pacific was VR-HVY and became B-HVY.

I think that the only remaining active VP- and VQ- prefixed registrations are:
Anguilla VP-Axx (but now uses V2- for newly (?) registered aircraft)
Cayman Islands VP-Cxx
Falkland Islands VP-Fxx
British Virgin Islands VP-Lxx
Montserrat VP-Mxx
Turks and Caicos Islands VQ-Txx

Note that other Vx- prefixes in addition to VP-, VQ- and VR- were used. Two survived decolonisation, namel VT- (India) and VH- (Australia)
 
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:58 pm

Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):
Trump's 727-23 is also registered in Bermuda (VP-BDJ).

Yep:


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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:22 pm

EX slaim PM of Lebanon Raffic Harriri's Private jet.(VP-BRH)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/single48126/VPBRH.jpg

Now used by his Son Saad.

The family also Owns a fleet of B737 (VP-BHN) And a 727 (unknown reg).


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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:37 am

VP-BRH was in my mind when I confused it with Roman Abramovich's 767
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting FOMEA (Reply 20):
The family also Owns a fleet of B737 (VP-BHN) And a 727 (unknown reg).

The 727 is HZ-HR3
 
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RE: VP-Registered Aircraft

Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting OD720 (Reply 22):

The 727 is HZ-HR3

Thanks for that info Vatche .

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