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Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:54 am

Well...it was for Southwest Airlines...

Here it is in Beirut:
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Flying Carpet, a small Lebanese charter airline which owns and operates two aircraft, a Fairchild SA-227AC Metro III and a Cessna 401, has recently purchased N103SW, an ex-Southwest Airlines 737-200.

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It was ferried from Mojave to Beirut via Winnipeg, Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Bucharest. It arrived yesterday.



It has since been towed to the Mideast Aircraft Services Company (MASCO) hangers to have its paint stripped and to be repainted. It will supposidly be painted in a slightly revised version of Flying Carpet's livery, except that it will have Iraqi Airways titles because it will supposidly be operating flights for Iraqi Airways.

Here it is infront of the MASCO hangers:

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Flying Carpet was one of the first carriers to operate flights to Iraq following the 2003 invasion. They've been operating regularly scheduled charter flights to Baghdad and Arbil on their 19-seat Fairchild Metro III, however, demand has been growing on the route prompting them to need a bigger aircraft. It looks like also, future flights will be operated in cooperation with Iraqi Airways, since the aircraft will carry Iraqi Airways titles, at least initially...

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Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:04 am

Well it looks like...
That bird is now free to move about the middle east  Wink
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:19 pm

I bet whoever aquired this bird is vey, very lucky to gain a very well maintained aircraft. WN takes care of their airplanes with pride and dignity!

Take care of your planes, it will serve you for many, many years to come! WN has proven that with the 732's.
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:24 pm

Quoting BA (Thread starter):
It was ferried from Mojave to Beirut via Winnipeg, Goose Bay, Reykjavik, and Bucharest.

That is quite the hop there. The plane's only 21 years old, so she's still got some life left in her, especially since WN has a great maintenance program and pipeline to Boeing. Here's hoping the usual scourges of the Middle East (sand, burqas, camels, &c) don't do her in.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 1):
Well it looks like...
That bird is now free to move about the middle east

 rotfl  Nicely played.

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Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:34 pm

So let me ask, lets say this 732 does crash in the middle east somewhere, will WN in any way be responsible for the aircraft's failure or was this bird sold 'as-is without recourse'?
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:39 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
So let me ask, lets say this 732 does crash in the middle east somewhere, will WN in any way be responsible for the aircraft's failure or was this bird sold 'as-is without recourse'?

All airplanes come with maintenance records. Southwest(or maintenance contractors) could be held at fault only if the work was not done as logged. I guess they could also be held liable if they misrepresented the number of cycles or hours on the airframe.

I believe Midwest was burned a while back because they bought some MD-83'S that turned out to have incomplete maintenance records.

Fraud in aircraft records, etc. is not unknown but it is less common than say, odometer fraud by used car sellers. The penalties are higher and there are more checks and balances.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:43 pm

It was really nice to see the plane here in Beirut with the original paint. I want to thank Mr Youssef Jerab from MASCO for giving me access. He even let me in and it has the SW seats and suprisingly, is very clean. It's true that SW have taken good care of the plane.

I'm happy that I managed to take the photo since the paint will be removed today to be painted in revised Flying Carpet colours.

I did cabin and cockpit shots as well and see later if they are worthy for uploads here.

I mention in the photo that it may take OD-MAC registration. This is not final and the owner may or may not change it.

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Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:55 pm

Great picture of the Southwest 732 especially with the tail number plainly visible and the SWA title still on the tail. Thanks for posting that one.

Also, I am glad that it got to escape from Mojave.
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:55 pm

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
I'm happy that I managed to take the photo since the paint will be removed today to be painted in revised Flying Carpet colours

I can't wait to see this airplane in Flying carpet colours.I love this name"Flying carpet of Lebanon"
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:49 pm

Quoting Cloudy (Reply 9):
All airplanes come with maintenance records.

Not to attack you, but I do know that: Im in A&P Tech school....

Quoting Cloudy (Reply 9):
Fraud in aircraft records, etc. is not unknown but it is less common than say, odometer fraud by used car sellers.

Thats true, but in this case...the aircraft is flown in a different country with different rules not dictated by the FARs.

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
He even let me in and it has the SW seats and suprisingly, is very clean. It's true that SW have taken good care of the plane.

Not to single out anyone but I wished that other airlines took the time and effort to do with WN does with their planes.
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
Not to attack you, but I do know that: Im in A&P Tech school....

He was not specifically targetting you with his comment!  wink 

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
the aircraft is flown in a different country with different rules not dictated by the FARs.

Nonetheless, a safety record is a safety record and if something is wrong in that document, you can sure as hell bet that the folks in Lebanon will be taking a magic carpet ride across the pond to have a little chat with WN!

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13):
Not to single out anyone but I wished that other airlines took the time and effort to do with WN does with their planes.

I second that! Although I believe AC does a great job with maintaining their a/c, there is always room for improvement. I've heard WestJet is also pretty good with their a/c.

Just my $0.02 (CDN)

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:26 am

So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?
Southwest or the storage company? Was this aircraft owned or leased by WN?
How does that work when an aircraft is stored in Mojave? Does the airline still own it or does Mojave buy it off them?
Sorry for all the questions but this thread got me wondering about the financial aspects of putting an aircraft in the desert for good from the company (not temporary storage for the airline).

Thanks!

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 14):
He was not specifically targetting you with his comment!

Understood, I may have taken it in a different aspect.

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

I thought WN sold all the 732's already so Im assuming the storage company probably got the dough.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting Airwave (Reply 5):
Nicely played.

Thanks  Smile

I figured it is not very often we see a strictly domestic U.S. bird in a foreign country, so I thought, "why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."  Big grin
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

Southwest owned most of the -200s, IIRC, and sold them off to other entities. Those other entities may store them at MHV and elsewhere, and they pay the storage costs until they either re-sell or lease the aircraft to someone else (at which time it most likely will get re-painted and re-registered), or strip the aircraft of usable parts/components and cut up what's left.

So, Southwest got it's money, and whomever they sold them to will also get theirs. Once Southwest sold them, they were out of the picture...
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:55 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 17):
"why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:11 am

Thanks OPNLguy! I quess that answered that  Smile
One more question for you. When I was at DAL last December I noticed one of our -200's sitting off to to the side of one of the terminals. What is going on with that one?

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 20):
One more question for you. When I was at DAL last December I noticed one of our -200's sitting off to to the side of one of the terminals. What is going on with that one?

That's N67SW or N68SW (never can remember which) which is bolted to the ground over there and used to train rampers and provo agents. A retired aircraft is much more forgiving of bumps and dings than a front-line aircraft is..  Wink
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:23 am

Quoting OD720 (Reply 10):
I did cabin and cockpit shots as well and see later if they are worthy for uploads here.

You should definitely try uploading them. If not to Airliners.net, then to MyAviation.net.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:51 am

Quoting SWA TPA (Reply 15):
So who gets the proceeds from the sale of N103SW?

They bought it from a certain bank or finance group and Southwest were not involved.

Quoting BA (Reply 22):
You should definitely try uploading them. If not to Airliners.net, then to MyAviation.net.

I have many shots from the past 7 days or so and I'll try to go through them all this weekend and see what's best for uploads. They were removing the paint today and even got photos of that as well. Looked interesting.

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:16 am

I knew this Reg looked familiar. This was my last WN -200 to fly on. It was a DAL-HOU on 2/23/04. I remember this flight well because I was talking to the gentleman beside me and he knew the -200's were on the way out. I've only been on one -200 since then and that was a DL on 11/27/05 DFW-CVG N243WA. Glad to see this old bird go on to another life. These WN -200's mean a lot to me. As a kid I started flying them in summer of 1975. There is a good chance I'll never see another 200 again. Thanks for the memories.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:53 pm

I love the twist here. An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq. It's amazing how Boeing/Airbus aircraft are so 'fungable' on the used market. I do hope it has a long life there.
 
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:18 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 25):
An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq.

Beirut is in Lebanon, not Iraq.
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting BA (Reply 26):
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 25):
An aircraft from the heart of "the USA" ending up in Iraq.

Beirut is in Lebanon, not Iraq.



Quoting BA (Thread starter):
It looks like also, future flights will be operated in cooperation with Iraqi Airways, since the aircraft will carry Iraqi Airways titles, at least initially...
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:18 am

MajorNelson,

The aircraft is owned by the Lebanese carrier, Flying Carpet, and it is currently in Beirut, Lebanon and will be based there.

It will be operating flights for Iraqi Airways, but it is not in Iraq right now and it will not be based in Iraq.
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:42 am

I think he knows that Beirut isn't in Iraq, and that Flying Carpet owns the aircraft. He never said the aircraft would be based in Iraq.

I think what he meant by "ending up in Iraq" was that the aircraft would be flying to/from Iraq. That's certainly the way I took it...
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Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting OD720 (Reply 19):
They were removing the paint today and even got photos of that as well. Looked interesting.

Any new pics Of the new Color?


Thanks for all you effort for taking the above pics.


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Sun Apr 16, 2006 2:07 pm

Similarly surprising, yesterday I saw an ex-Aloha 737-200 (in full colors less titles) in Dubai... now registered EX-061. It is either flying for Phoenix or Imtal.
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Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:53 pm

This photo is immediately after its arrival here.



Please use the link since the photo doesn't seem to appear in the post.

http://myaviation.net/?pid=00661534

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Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:56 pm

Thank you for editing the title.
 
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:31 am

Hey AirframeAS, on which thread did I post that? I forgot all about that one post. I am glad you found humor in it.  Smile
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:13 am

You mean this one, Mr Steeler83??:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 17):
"why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:18 am

Ahhhh 103SW.......the memories. February 1999, right downwind departure out of LBB headed for DAL when she let go of the A system hydraulics. It's amazing how long it takes to use the alternate extension to get the flaps down to 15 and lower the gear manually. Pretty sure it was the biggest to happen in LBB in quite some time because by the time we got her back on the ground, there were no less than NINE ambulances lined up (as well as several news crews). She got us back safely that day and I'm happy to see her getting a new lease on life in another corner of the world.
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:27 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 31):
You mean this one, Mr Steeler83??:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 17):
"why not use WN's slogan and come up with some wise-ass statement about this."

Yes that one  Smile
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:31 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 33):
Yes that one

I only found that on this thread, I found it humorous because 1) it was original and 2) I cannot imagine any U.S. air carrier going THAT far making a wise-ass statement about their product...gave me some good dreams at night and slept well! LOL!

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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:35 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 34):
I only found that on this thread, I found it humorous because 1) it was original and 2) I cannot imagine any U.S. air carrier going THAT far making a wise-ass statement about their product...gave me some good dreams at night and slept well! LOL!

Yeah, I saw where I posted it on here  Smile I was responding to what Airwave said. I am glad you enjoyed it that much Big grin
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Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 35):
I am glad you enjoyed it that much

You should put that down as your disclaimer on the bottom of your posts. LOL!
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