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Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:23 am

Hot on the heals of announcing an increase in passenger flights to New York/JFK to a daily B777 service, the airline's cargo department has announced plans to launch a weekly scheduled all freighter service to JFK. The flight will operate every Thursday (subject to possible changes) and will route CAI-OST-JFK (OST is the airline's European cargo hub).

At the moment the airline is setting up the infrastructure at JFK as well as negotiating the current bilateral agreement between Egypt and the US to accomodate the cargo flight. The route should be launched in May, however the airline will operate a series of ad hoc charters on the route starting on Thursday (20/04/06) catering for an oil industry contract.

As for the 747, it'll be leased from Evergreen International and will most probably be a B747-200.


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Definitely another great move and as I stated in the previous thread, cargo is a real money maker on the JFK route. In fact Egyptian exports to the US have seen a sharp increase last year with the trend expected to continue.

Article on Amcham Egypt's website:

Last year saw a dramatic upswing in the volume of Egyptian exports to the US, said a report issued March 19 by the Egyptian Trade Representation Office in Washington. Egypt exported goods worth $2.1 billion to the US in 2005, up from just $1.3 billion in 2004 – an increase of 57 percent. Egypt’s import volume from the US, meanwhile, rose by 2.7 percent on the year.
http://www.amcham.org.eg/Publication...nessMonthly/april%2006/InBrief.asp


In addition to this expansion, Egyptair Cargo are also launching a new weekly AB6F flight to Tripoli/Libya (TIP) on Monday 17/05/06. Last year the airline had launched cargo flights to BEY with AB6F equipment however a sharp drop in demand meant the service was short lived.


Egyptair Cargo's fleet currently consists of 2 A300B4-203Fs (SU-BDG and SU-GAC) and 1 A300-622RF (SU-GAS). A second A300-622RF will arrive in June 2006. The department is also working on a new
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:32 am

Btw, whats the status of Egyptairs 747-300 Combis which were retired from the fleet last year. They are still pretty young for a 747, with just 17 years of service. Any clue who´s going to take them? Where have they been parked?
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:13 am

NA

Both 743s are stored at Cairo awaiting their fates.
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:40 pm

Hopefully they will be converted as well.
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:58 pm

Great news ..

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 3):
Hopefully they will be converted as well.

I think the cost of converting them to freighters may have been so high that the Airline didn't even opt for that option and chose to lease another 747 instead .
The 2 B747's Egyptair owns were retired from service few years ago , they are parked at CAI and unfortunately I don't see them flying for MS again .
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:44 am

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
Definitely another great move and as I stated in the previous thread, cargo is a real money maker on the JFK route. In fact Egyptian exports to the US have seen a sharp increase last year with the trend expected to continue.

very intresting news, + the routing via Ostende will give Egyptair the oportunity to fill up the flights with cheap sold consolidated cargo from Europe.

also the Thursady depature will be a big + for the flight.

wish the best for the flight.

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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JF

Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:10 am

Weren't those 747 sold to air atlas(or a cargo company)? it was a big thread on A.net a while ago.
Please excuse my English!
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting Korg747 (Reply 6):
Weren't those 747 sold to air atlas(or a cargo company)? it was a big thread on A.net a while ago.

Hey Korg 747 , long time no see   .
I saw one of these 747's parked at CAI on my last trip in January of this year .
SU-GAM: stored at CAI since 06/2004 .

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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JF

Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:50 pm

Quoting Horus (Thread starter):
the airline's cargo department has announced plans to launch a weekly scheduled all freighter service to JFK.

I have recieved information stating that Egyptair have ordered 3 parking position for the B742 at OST from June which seems to indicate plans to treble services on the route from weekly to thrice weekly. Excellent news!

Quoting NA (Reply 1):
Btw, whats the status of Egyptairs 747-300 Combis which were retired from the fleet last year.

NA, didn't you start a thread some time last year stating that the 2 B743s were sold? I personally never got a confirmation of that information though.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 5):
also the Thursady depature will be a big + for the flight.

Hello Aviance. Any particular reason why Thursday will be a big plus?


The 2 B747-300s (SU-GAL/M) were retired from service in early 2004 as the airline continued to streamline its fleet and parked them up near MS's engineering complex at CAI. During 2004/2005 SU-GAL was used on a few ad hoc charter cargo flights and SU-GAM is stored devoid of internal fittings and engines.

Here is a (poor quality) photo I took of SU-GAM:



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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting Horus (Reply 8):
NA, didn't you start a thread some time last year stating that the 2 B743s were sold? I personally never got a confirmation of that information though.

Thanks for remembering me:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2424042

Maybe the deal of selling them fell through?
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:31 am

Quoting Horus (Reply 8):
Hello Aviance. Any particular reason why Thursday will be a big plus?

because in the aircargo industry still a wednesday and friday/saturday delivery to the airlines is very common, specially the consolidations are closed this days. so thursday is just 1 day after wednesday and all the cargo that could be delivered wednesdays could be uplifted in a very short time-frame on the next day.

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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:08 pm

The 743's were sold to a Belgian/Saudi joint venture company as I heard, they now have the all Egyptair livery removed and painted over, no specific news about the identity of the new owner, but they should be flown out CAI probably to be converted to freighters.
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:13 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
because in the aircargo industry still a wednesday and friday/saturday delivery to the airlines is very common, specially the consolidations are closed this days. so thursday is just 1 day after wednesday and all the cargo that could be delivered wednesdays could be uplifted in a very short time-frame on the next day.

Thanks for the clarification Avianca (judging by your profile I guess you know what you're talking about).

Quoting SU184 (Reply 11):
The 743's were sold to a Belgian/Saudi joint venture company as I heard, they now have the all Egyptair livery removed and painted over, no specific news about the identity of the new owner, but they should be flown out CAI probably to be converted to freighters.

SU184, I have a video of SU-GAM taken in March which shows no engines on the aircraft's port side. Do you have any more information on this Belgian/Saudi venture?


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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:17 am

hope that the dep ex JFK is NOT on Friday but on Saturday, giving the forwarders sufficient time to hand over cargo received from the industry during Friday.
 
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RE: Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JF

Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 13):
hope that the dep ex JFK is NOT on Friday but on Saturday, giving the forwarders sufficient time to hand over cargo received from the industry during Friday.

The flight will actually operate JFK-OST-CAI-OST-JFK (i.e. it'll originate in JFK) so at least initially the aircraft will probably depart JFK on Tuesday evenings.

However provisions are in place for the service to increase to 3x weekly in June.

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