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Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:03 pm

Gate B-19 and B-20 are being converted to handle Delta Connection flights. The flights will begin next month and there will be roughly ten flights a day out of each gate. B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service, and B-20 currently only handles the 737-200.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:23 pm

These are both right by the Spine aren't they?

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service,

Really? Never paid attention to it in all the times I walk past it. You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:25 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
These are both right by the Spine aren't they?

Yes.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting DeltaSFO (Reply 2):
Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service,

Really? Never paid attention to it in all the times I walk past it. You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.

Never noticed B-19 wasn't used either...then again, I'm probably mixing it up with A-19, which I seem to use way too often (along with A-10 and D-36...I just arrived into A-19 last night). Still, it's going to be a little strange seeing the regionals mixed in with the big boys in ATL...will it be Chautauqua using these gates or the mix of Comair/ASA like in D?

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Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:36 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
You would think they could shoehorn something in there given the decent wingspan of the 727.

Wing location and the larger rake helped the 727 fit into tight spots.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:40 pm

They've got to be nuts! ATL's so crowded now, I'd hate to be able to remember what the OLD terminal was like!
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:57 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 3):
will it be Chautauqua using these gates or the mix of Comair/ASA like in D?

I think it might be just Chautauqua as of right now.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:30 pm

Or it could be Shuttle America with the E-170's. I think they are starting some flights out of ATL, hence the need for jetways which the C and D gates would not be able to accomadate.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:54 pm

Talking to the supervisor in charge of the effected zones, he said it would be only Chatauqua as of right now. Also, it'll be DL employees working them... not ASA or anyone else. It ought to be interesting to see!
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:28 pm

Will indeed be an unusual site, but if ATL has two empty gates that can't handle mainline planes but are idea for RJs, why not use them? After all, ATL is trying to do everything to add new gates (or in this case reactivate them) to increase capacity, seeing as how they won't be adding any new terminals soon.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:17 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Wing location and the larger rake helped the 727 fit into tight spots.

Does an MD-88 have a greater wingspan than a 727?
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:22 am

Quoting DL763DFW (Reply 8):
be DL employees working them... not ASA or anyone else. It ought to be interesting to see!

What's so interesting about that. Every where else with the exception of CVG and SLC, its DL employees that handle the DCI flights.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:49 am

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 10):
Does an MD-88 have a greater wingspan than a 727?

No, the 727 has a larger wingspan than the MD-88.

Jeremy

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service

Why can't the 73S use this gate, it has a smaller wingspan than the 727?

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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):
Why can't the 73S use this gate, it has a smaller wingspan than the 727?

I am not sure why B-19 was not converted to 737-200 service, it might have to do with B-21 only handling the 757-200 therefore it might not be enough space, B-17 only gets the 737-200 as well.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting ATLIEN (Reply 13):
I am not sure why B-19 was not converted to 737-200 service, it might have to do with B-21 only handling the 757-200 therefore it might not be enough space, B-17 only gets the 737-200 as well.

I have seen why they do that a few times when i was in ATL. They over lap the wings. 757 over top the 737-200. not by much. but there is a little of an overlay of the wings.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):
No, the 727 has a larger wingspan than the MD-88.

Thats what I thought, but it makes me wonder why B-19 was only for the 727 and not for any other aircraft.
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Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:17 am

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There are the gates in discussion. There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there. The 727-200 would be able to due to the wing position farther back on the fuselage.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting ATLIEN (Thread starter):
B-19 has been closed ever since the 727 went out of service, and B-20 currently only handles the 737-200.



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there.

Which one of you is correct? It also appears to me that the gate labled B20 in the above photo has more room than the one labled B19.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:58 am

Quoting Ilikeyyc (Reply 17):
It also appears to me that the gate labled B20 in the above photo has more room than the one labled B19.

Definitely not. The northern 'boundary' of gate B20 are the two rows of baggage carts right to left of where B20 is written. Everything above that is already B22.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:58 am

B-20 has been used as a mail/cargo staging area for a number of years now. Used to piss me off when my route with my previous employer was B Concourse, as they'd park mail carts where the vendors were supposed to park at.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:23 am

Were B19 and B20 the former Eastern gates?
I know DL had one side and EA had the other side.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:33 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
Definitely not. The northern 'boundary' of gate B20 are the two rows of baggage carts right to left of where B20 is written. Everything above that is already B22.

Then appearances are deceiving. So back to my original post, are the gates labled correctly in the photo? Because the thread starter and photo contradict eachother. One says b19 is not in use the other says b20 is not in use.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
There are the gates in discussion. There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there. The 727-200 would be able to due to the wing position farther back on the fuselage.

Actually you have the gates labeled backwards. B-20 takes 732s all day long and all even gates are on the west side of the terminals in ATL. The view you have is looking North. B-19 has been shoved into the corner like in the pic for awhile. I think the tires are flat!!!
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:57 pm

Hadn't even realised the gates were designated the wrong way, my mistake on the worngly drawn conclusion.

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 22):
B-19 has been shoved into the corner like in the pic for awhile. I think the tires are flat!!!

Considering the gate will now be used, that shouldn't be a problem. Just put some stairs to the jetway and have the pax board via the apron, as is standard for DCI at ATL. Unless of course DL actually wants pax to board pax on an RJ via a jetway.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:47 am

Considering I worked in Zone 7 for about a year, I can tell you that it's backwards on the picture. As someone said above, B-20 takes 732's all day long. It's kind of a bitch to work that gate because you have no room to stage cargo or bags, and its very tight to even load and unload.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 19):
B-20 has been used as a mail/cargo staging area for a number of years now. Used to piss me off when my route with my previous employer was B Concourse, as they'd park mail carts where the vendors were supposed to park at

It's piss us off too when the vendors would park there because it'd make things that much more difficult. In fact, a while ago, somone was parking a 732 and didnt pay attention to a large box truck hanging over in the gate, and the wing went right thru the truck.

B-19 has been used as an area to park airstarts, lav trucks, and offloaded freight. The jetway has been pushed against the spine wall. My only problem with the whole RJ thing is that it's going to be REALLY tight trying to squeeze one in when there is a 757 next door at B-21. When B-19 was closed, they moved all the gates down a little bit to give more room to the gates. It'll be interesting to see how they fit them all in there. Just glad I'm on Int'l!
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:56 am

Were B19 and B20 the former Eastern gates?
I know DL had one side and EA had the other side.


Eastern had B-19 through B-36 on the north end of the concourse and a lone B-18 on the south end. You'll still notice the concourse floor slopes down quite a bit on the south end of B. I assume it's because Delta was operating a higher percentage of DC-9s than Eastern when the Midfield Terminal was designed. Eastern had plenty of Nines but way more 727s.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:10 am

I apologize, I did end up mislabeling the picture. At least we are all on the same page now. But, as you can see, we are talking about some very tight gates here.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting DL763DFW (Reply 24):
Considering I worked in Zone 7 for about a year, I can tell you that it's backwards on the picture. As someone said above, B-20 takes 732's all day long. It's kind of a bitch to work that gate because you have no room to stage cargo or bags, and its very tight to even load and unload.

Hey, when did you work in zone 7 because I worked there for quite awhile myself before moving down to 8.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:37 am

Do the same gate agents usually work from the same area of gates? or could they be in A one day, B the next, E, and so on...?
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:14 am

Quoting Delta767 (Reply 28):
Do the same gate agents usually work from the same area of gates? or could they be in A one day, B the next, E, and so on...?

Yes, currently I work in zone 8 which is gates B-25 thru 33 and B-30 thru 34, A and B concourses are seperated into four zones within each concourse with the exception of T Concourse which is one zone. One will usually work in the same area for a number of months until you bid again.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:29 am

Quoting ATLIEN (Reply 27):
Hey, when did you work in zone 7 because I worked there for quite awhile myself before moving down to 8.

I worked there last bid as an ALA...from around April 05 til Dec 05. Before that I was at DN Bagpoint, and before that I was in DFW. Now I'm an ALA in Area 31 on the Int'l E Gates. As I write this, things are trying to calm down after all the security SNAFU and the weather! Thank God it's my Friday
 

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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:46 am

Oh I know you, a big fan of country music right?
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:59 am

Haha, well I like all kinds of music... but yeah country is at the top.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:06 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
There are the gates in discussion. There is a 737-200 in gate B-19 in the photo. B-20 as said, isn't being used at the time. It looks like B-20 has a really short jetbridge, hence why even the 737-200 can't fit in there. The 727-200 would be able to due to the wing position farther back on the fuselage.

Your photo is wrong, B19 is the one on the right with the Jetway against the Building. B-19's jetway hasn't been used in 9 years ... B20 is the one on the left.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:11 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 23):
Considering the gate will now be used, that shouldn't be a problem. Just put some stairs to the jetway and have the pax board via the apron, as is standard for DCI at ATL. Unless of course DL actually wants pax to board pax on an RJ via a jetway.

Right now it will be Chautauqua only. DL will be boarding passengers via the stairs from the jetway and a walkway to the aircraft on the apron level, not the jetway bridge itself. The jetway bridge will be blocked off. The ramp striping has been modified to increase the real estate on the B-19 ramp.
 
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Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:30 pm

Its been awhile... But for some reason I want to say that B-21 was used as a widebody gate and because of this they shut down B-19..? I used to date a girl that worked in B-north and I think I remember her telling that was the reason that B-19 was nonoperational. On a side note... Do they still sell those slushies on the B-Spine..? Those thing were hard to pass up when I was out stealing stuff from the domestic gates... hahah ohh the memories...!

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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:37 pm

Quoting N160LH (Reply 35):
But for some reason I want to say that B-21 was used as a widebody gate and because of this they shut down B-19..? I used to date a girl that worked in B-north and I think I remember her telling that was the reason that B-19 was nonoperational

If it was, it was probably long ago. From what I remember, the only gate that regularly sees widebodies at Concourse B is B1, the rest are at T, A and E. Though I gotta say, from personal experience, B1 always appeared to be THE gate for 767 flights to JAX. Have departed and arrived on that gate quite a few times.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:54 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 36):

I think B has widebody gates at B-1, B-21, B-23, B-25, and maybe B-27.... We used to have steal LD-2 and Transportors from Domestic all the time and remember getting stuff off B-north... But I can not really remember where...

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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting N160LH (Reply 37):
I think B has widebody gates at B-1, B-21, B-23, B-25, and maybe B-27.

Could very well be, though with all the reduction in domestic widebody flying, it is doubtful that any of those gates except B1 will see widebodies again too soon  Sad .
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:28 am

B-21 was never a widebody gate. At one time it could take 727s, MD88s, and DC-9s. B-19 was the same way. When B-19 was closed, everything was shifted slightly to the south and B-21 became a 757 only gate. B-23 is a 767-200 and L-1011 capable gate...along with any narrowbody. B-25, 27, and 29 are capable of 767-300s... and maybe MD-11s. But don't flame me if I'm wrong on the MD-11.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:17 am

I forgot to add that things have changed within the last few months in ATL with regard to where wide-bodies can park. Delta management has said they want to keep all wide-bodies in one certain area, as to keep all GSE equipment in one area and because so many 767s have gone to Int'l. Wide-bodies are no longer allowed to operate out of B concourse. In case of emergency, B-1 may be utilized, and the occasional terminating flight might come into B-25, 27, or 29. As far as scheduled service though, you'll only see the wide-rides on T,A, and E.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:28 am

Actually B19/20 are more than likely going to be used for S5 when the E170 starts coming in next month. Not for CHQ. We will still be using the D concourse.



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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:43 am

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 41):
We will still be using the D concourse.

Speaking of Concourse D when did mainline pull out of there and DCI take it over?
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:10 am

When, or IF, does DL/ATL plan on having jet bridges for regional jets? I am really surprised they don't do this (same is true for CVG). The thing I like about AA and NWA is that at all their hubs the regional jets are boarded with the jet bridges. Its really a nice thing, especially in bad weather.
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:05 am

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 43):
When, or IF, does DL/ATL plan on having jet bridges for regional jets? I am really surprised they don't do this (same is true for CVG). The thing I like about AA and NWA is that at all their hubs the regional jets are boarded with the jet bridges. Its really a nice thing, especially in bad weather.

I doubt RJs would get jetways at ATL...the way they pack those planes in, I don't really see them being able to add jetways in and still handle the amount of capacity they do handle.

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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:08 pm

D20 over to D35 is all DCI flights. It has been that way for about 4-5 months now. At least as long as we have been flying into ATL.


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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Mon May 01, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 44):
I doubt RJs would get jetways at ATL...the way they pack those planes in, I don't really see them being able to add jetways in and still handle the amount of capacity they do handle.

Check out Gate B-17 and B-20, Starting today, CHQ EMB-145 will start parking at these gates AND using jetway bridge adapters.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 42):
Speaking of Concourse D when did mainline pull out of there and DCI take it over?

This was done late last year, around Dec.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 41):
Actually B19/20 are more than likely going to be used for S5 when the E170 starts coming in next month. Not for CHQ. We will still be using the D concourse

We had the first EMB145 arrive at Gate B-19 and 20 at about 8:45AM this morning arriving from TRI and departing to FWA. B-19's jetway is not operational, so RP will be using the old stairs on the side of the jetway to board passengers. These stairs were just modified painted, and have had anti-skid added to the paint. There is an elevator for WC customers right under the gate. The S5 EMB-170 will be here in June with service to JFK, SAT, IND, CLE
 
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue May 02, 2006 1:20 am

Quoting PeachAir (Reply 46):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 42):
Speaking of Concourse D when did mainline pull out of there and DCI take it over?

This was done late last year, around Dec.

Ah, I see. I never seem to have flights out of any concourse other than A. Every now and then I get something in B or arrive there and just take the train to the end and go home.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Tue May 02, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting Beertrucker (Reply 14):
They over lap the wings. 757 over top the 737-200. not by much. but there is a little of an overlay of the wings.

The 757 sits significantly higher than the 737, so it shouldn't be a real issue.
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RE: Delta Connection To Fly Out Of Concourse B In ATL

Mon May 08, 2006 11:19 am

When taxiing out of ATL today there was a DCI ERJ parked at B19.

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