flyf15
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Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:54 pm

Hey guys,

Was thinking.... what successful restarts have there been of airlines? I'm not thinking a momentary shutdown and then beginning operations again. I mean, airline shuts down, years later another company comes along, grabs the name and maybe other aspects and is successful.

The only one I can think of is Frontier, but I'm sure there are others.
 
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:19 pm

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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:31 pm

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
Was thinking.... what successful restarts have there been of airlines? I'm not thinking a momentary shutdown and then beginning operations again. I mean, airline shuts down, years later another company comes along, grabs the name and maybe other aspects and is successful.

By your definition, this is not a restart but a new start-up with an old name.

Germanwings would be an example for your enquiry. Originally a domestic German airline operating MD-83's, the airline was brought to bankcruptcy by former quasi-monopolist LH in 1991/92. LH bought the name and reused it on today's low-cost offspring Germanwings, which is in fact a daughter company of LH affiliate Eurowings.

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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:42 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
By your definition, this is not a restart but a new start-up with an old name.

Yeah, couldn't really think of the best way to phrase it.



I'd say something could be said about maybe some of the feeders out there, such as PSA.
 
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:01 pm

What about PanAm II? Is it still flying? Would this qualify as "successful"?

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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:06 pm

Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 4):
What about PanAm II? Is it still flying? Would this qualify as "successful"?

It is in fact already Pan Am III or IV. Successful? From the things I have heard about it, they hardly qualify for a success story.
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:13 pm

Swissair and Swiss International are sort of like this - similar name and livery based on the Swiss Name, but not quite what you were looking for. F9 was the only true one that popped into my head as well.
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:00 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 5):
It is in fact already Pan Am III or IV.

AFAIK, the current (pseudo) PA is PanAm III. I'd be damned if there was a fourth spinoff of the name PanAm.
 
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:49 pm

Qatar Airways was a young, poorly-run airline flying old aircraft (727-200s, 747-200s) when it was relaunched in 1997 (or was it 1998).
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RE: Successful Restarts Of Airlines

Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
AFAIK, the current (pseudo) PA is PanAm III. I'd be damned if there was a fourth spinoff of the name PanAm.

Well, if you wanne be really precise, the current incarnation is actually "Boston-Maine Airways dba Pan Am Mk IV". Officially, PA III never died, but when you consider that Guilford essentially grounded PA III and then restarted flying with Boston-Maine as the airline doing the flying, it is indeed PA IV.

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 5):
From the things I have heard about it, they hardly qualify for a success story.

Indeed, the current PA would fit more into the category of "How not to run an airline".

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