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BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:40 am

This 747-400 had to stop in Bangor, Maine today...anybody know why? FlightAware also shows the plane had to do some 'zig-zags' as it overflew Michigan on its way from Bangor to O'Hare...ATC spacing issues perhaps?

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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:43 am

A west bound flight - probably encountered strong easterly winds and made a refuelling stop.

Although...Bangor has become the "get-the-disruptive-passenger-arrested-and-off-the-plane" capital of North America.

Sorry I couldn't help, but those are the two off the top of my head.
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:50 am

I'd say a medical stop for a sick passenger
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:51 am

Not saying your wrong at all, because you probably know more about it than I do, but isn't that awfully short for a refuelling stop on a 747-400? I mean LHR-ORD isn't exactly pushing the limits on a 747-400, but I suppose that its fueled according to how full it is, and how much weight its carrying. I would certainly expect a 757 to have to stop, and possibly even a 767, if the winds are really bad, but a 744?

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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:54 am

Looks like it was "Passenger Convenience/Commerical Publicity"

Here's the raw data from SABRE

2BA297/19APR«
BA RESPONSE¶
DOBA297/19APR
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * BA 297 -1 WE 19APR
CITY INFO HOUR SLOCALS
LHR ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 1255
LEFT THE GATE 1303
TOOK OFF 1331
DELAY OPERATIONAL REASON
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 1537 ORD
BGR DIV ORD BGR
COMMERCIAL PUBLICITY / PASSENGER CONVENIENCE
PASSENGERS ON BOARD S150S
AIRCRAFT LANDED 1451
ARRIVED 1456
ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 1600
LEFT THE GATE 1552
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 3):
Not saying your wrong at all, because you probably know more about it than I do, but isn't that awfully short for a refuelling stop on a 747-400?

EXACTLY what I was thinking, but I couldn't come up with the right wording. A 744 can do HKG-LHR with no refueling, I'd imagine a pilot would put enough fuel in a 744 for a LHR-ORD run
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:48 am

It was a medical emergency. Apparently one of the passengers kicked the bucket.
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:35 pm

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 3):
Not saying your wrong at all, because you probably know more about it than I do, but isn't that awfully short for a refuelling stop on a 747-400?


[quote=AA61Hvy,reply=5]EXACTLY what I was thinking, but I couldn't come up with the right wording. A 744 can do HKG-LHR with no refueling, I'd imagine a pilot would put enough fuel in a 744 for a LHR-ORD run

This is true, but remember the tanks were probebly not full of fuel. Just because it has more then enough range, doesn't mean they filled them up to capacity. Of course I know it's a Medical diversion. But just to point it out!!
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:25 pm

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Just because it has more then enough range, doesn't mean they filled them up to capacity.

I know AA is not filling up their airplanes full anymore, trying to save costs. Are other airlines doing that as well?
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RE: BA 297 LHR-BGR-ORD Today

Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):
I know AA is not filling up their airplanes full anymore, trying to save costs. Are other airlines doing that as well?

Airlines usually don't fill their aircraft full on every flight for any number of reasons. First, if it is a short flight, it may well put the aircraft over MLW (as see by how long that B6 plane with the twisted gear had to circle). Second, and the biggest reason, is that the heavier an airplane is, the more fuel it burns. They wont put a full load on because they will end up burning more up in the process. Now, since the price of fuel has gone so high, some airlines have taken to the idea of tankering. Tankering is when you load enough fuel to take you somewhere, drop passengers off, then take new passengers somewhere else. That is because you may have a big price differential between your fuel supplier in each city and want to buy cheaper fuel. This is only done when the extra weight wont override that price gain.
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