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Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:36 am

Hey

On the Air Vanuatu website it looks like the airline are re-scheduling theier services quite extensively given that they only have one jet plane! Auckland will be getting 3 weekly flights from the 1st of june up from 2. Are loads quite high on this route?
All other routes are remaining at the same frequency, they are just getting flights offered at different departure/arrival times.

It seems to me that Ar Vanuatu might need to look at a fleet replacement or getting another jet aircraft?

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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:48 am

Slightly OT, and I apologize if this appears to be a hijack attempt, but...well, wasn't EK thinking about using Vanuatu as a Pacific hub a while back? Not sure if this was a serious plan, or merely a "strawman" being floated about to guage the competition's reaction? If this were to happen, they'd probably get more than one plane!
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:00 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 1):
EK thinking about using Vanuatu as a Pacific hub a while back?

I think there was a rumour about it yes. LOL, that would be hilarious! However VLI airport cannot handle any aircraft above 767 size I believe.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:02 am

Yes, but the beauty of this scheme would be it would put EK in a position to exploit 5th freedom rights, since Vanuatu is a soverign state. If this were to occur, the you would see a quick expansion of the facilities. Very quick, IMO. Question is: would Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Japan, U.S., et. al., put up with this ploy?
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting Planemanofnz (Thread starter):
Auckland will be getting 3 weekly flights from the 1st of june up from 2. Are loads quite high on this route?

I believe its a Tuesday flight. Loads are quite good in the NZ winter, those kiwis trying to escape the cold NZ weather.

They did lease a second aircraft ZK-SLA in 2004. Aircraft was white with a black tail. AKL then recieved a third flight aswell. Was owned by airworks its now operating overseas.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:19 am

The 733 must cost quite a bit to run on Air Vanuatu's routes. Especially on the nearly 4 hour flight to SYD. It would seem more efficient for them to get a 319 or a 73G. Though they really do need 2 aircraft to offer flights at better times to holiday-makers. Maybe they could lease a 320 from NZ?
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:54 am

I agree that its probably time that they looked at a 737NG. Problem with a second aircraft is that they don't need it all the time and its costly to have it sitting on the ground for to long.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:14 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 6):
I agree that its probably time that they looked at a 737NG

I wonder whether they would choose the 737-700, 737-800, A319 or A320. Anyway, hopefully with whatever aircraft they choose, there will be more comfortable seating and better IFE.

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 6):
Problem with a second aircraft is that they don't need it all the time and its costly to have it sitting on the ground for to long

They could get one new 73G/320 family aircraft as their own. Then they could maybe share an aircraft between themselves and FJ, QF or NZ depending on which family of aircraft they want to buy/lease.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:13 pm

I would think that they would try and collect a 737NG off QANTAS, dont QANTAS own a bit of it??

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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:28 pm

Quoting NZAA (Reply 8):
I would think that they would try and collect a 737NG off QANTAS, dont QANTAS own a bit of it??

But QF need all their B738s as they are all heavily used. QF has even ordered more B738s due to the demand.
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:38 pm

Quoting NZAA (Reply 8):
I would think that they would try and collect a 737NG off QANTAS, dont QANTAS own a bit of it??

Travis

Maybe they should lease an A320 from Jetstar Asia, given there ops haven't been as successful as anticipated.

maybe ur thinking of QF's 46% shareholding in FJ??

air vanuatu is 100% government owned...
Qantas only codeshares...
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:27 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
QF has even ordered more B738s due to the demand.

Have they really? I know they recently took delivery of their last ordered 738 but I didn't know they'd since ordered more...?

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 7):
Then they could maybe share an aircraft between themselves and FJ, QF or NZ depending on which family of aircraft they want to buy/lease.

Share an aircraft? If only the aviation industry actually WAS this simplistic...

Slightly off topic... but I love crewing up to VLI... short flight times each way - it almost feels domestic; and VLI airport is such a quaint wee place and the ground staff so lovely. The locals queue at the fence and wave and cheer when our "big" jet arrives and we open our doors!
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:01 am

Does Pacific Blue fly to Vila from AKL?
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:19 am

Quoting NZAA (Reply 12):
Does Pacific Blue fly to Vila from AKL?

No they don't.

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 11):
Have they really? I know they recently took delivery of their last ordered 738 but I didn't know they'd since ordered more...?

They ordered 5 more recently.;
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:47 am

Quoting NZAA (Reply 12):
Does Pacific Blue fly to Vila from AKL?

No, only from BNE.

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
Quoting DJ738 (Reply 11):
Have they really? I know they recently took delivery of their last ordered 738 but I didn't know they'd since ordered more...?

They ordered 5 more recently.;

Thanks ZK-NBT. I must have missed this bit of news!
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 14):
Quoting NZAA (Reply 12):
Does Pacific Blue fly to Vila from AKL?

No, only from BNE.

They did try MEL-VLI last year, albeit unsuccesfully...

1pw didn't work.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:55 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
Quoting DJ738 (Reply 11):
Have they really? I know they recently took delivery of their last ordered 738 but I didn't know they'd since ordered more...?

They ordered 5 more recently.;

Thanks ZK-NBT, I tried to find it on Boeings web-site but couldn't
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:59 pm

Quoting DJ738 (Reply 11):
Share an aircraft? If only the aviation industry actually WAS this simplistic...

Actually many airlines have tried this in the pacific before. Air Pacific and Royal Tongan did it a while back with a 733. Air Nauru and Norfolk Jet Express also did it with a 734. It would be a possiblity for NF to do so aswell

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
No they don't

Maybe DJ or even NZ could look at flying AKL-VLI?

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 15):
They did try MEL-VLI last year

NF also did this route but have stopped it. I think it was because they only had one plane and there was more demand from AKL, SYD and BNE.
 
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RE: Air Vanuatu Re-scheduling

Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:29 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 17):
NF also did this route but have stopped it. I think it was because they only had one plane and there was more demand from AKL, SYD and BNE.

spot on...

they flew MEL until mid 1998.
operated direct for some time, then tried the SYD tag, then suspended altogether...