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A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:47 am

I'm looking forward to fly on an A320-100 before AF and BA start scrapping them, but I'm having some problems in finding out what routes are flown by this version.
Apparently, Amadeus just shows the "320" aircraft type without saying whether it's a -100 or a -200. I know that these planes have a shorter range, however this information is not enough to buy a ticket and fly on one.

May anyone go deeper into the route assignement of A320-100s?

Thanks

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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:54 am

The IATA code is "320" for both planes, so amadeus won't tell you which model it actually is. I think your best option might be an a.net photo search, and then try to find a pattern where the dash 100s go most.

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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:59 am

For BA, they go practically anywhere the -200s go (apart from some of the longer-range destinations). I don't think there is a pattern, as they seem fairly interchangable. It's a case of seeing what turns up, really.

AF may roster theirs differently, but again they are seen sporadically on some routes.
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:32 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
The IATA code is "320" for both planes, so amadeus won't tell you which model it actually is.

Perfectly true, thank you. I didn'think about that but you are damn right.

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 2):
For BA, they go practically anywhere the -200s go (apart from some of the longer-range destinations). I don't think there is a pattern, as they seem fairly interchangable. It's a case of seeing what turns up, really.

AF may roster theirs differently, but again they are seen sporadically on some routes.

I read on JP airline fleets that seating configurations of -100s and -200s are the same for Air France; For British Airways, both the -100s and the early -200s have one seat less than the newer A320s. Since (as far as I know) seating plans are the most important aspect for route assignment (apart from technical considerations like range, etc), I think the may really be seen as interchangeable.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1):
I think your best option might be an a.net photo search, and then try to find a pattern where the dash 100s go most.

If everything else fails...

Thank you for your replies

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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:47 pm

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 2):
AF may roster theirs differently, but again they are seen sporadically on some routes.

AF flies theirs anywhere the 320 flies as well. I lucked out and my first AF A320 was A320-111 CDG-FCO.
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:07 pm

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
AF flies theirs anywhere the 320 flies as well

True. There is no particular route for the -100, except that you won't find them on the longest routes of the network, such as CDG-TLV, CDG-SVO, CDG-ATH ...

6 of them are configured in a single 172Y Class, and used on the domestic network, mostly from ORY. They are F-GGEA/EB/EC/EE/EF/EG all ex-Air Inter aircraft

7 of them are configured with 165 seats (C/Y) and operate mostly European flights, though you can find them sometimes on domestic routes from CDG.
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:49 pm

So the only attraction when flying these planes is the missing wing fence und the certainty that you fly on an at least 17 year old airplane?

The NW guys will burst out in laughter thinking of their 35 years old DC9s ...
 
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:00 pm

Flew on AF's -100s on LHR-CDG recently. In surprisingly good nick inside, didn't feel particularly old.
 
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:21 pm

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 6):
So the only attraction when flying these planes is the missing wing fence und the certainty that you fly on an at least 17 year old airplane?

The attraction (I presume) is that they're rare.
 
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:28 pm

I tend to find that BA flies its 320-100 more on domestic routes, Milan and some German routes. (Berlin etc.) But it is random.

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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:41 pm

I was lucky enough to fly on both BA's and AF's A320-100s...
it seems that AF's -100s are regularly used on the LHR route. Whenever I was in LHR there was a AF 100 around.

But you will probably have to contact an insider at AF or BA that can give you the specific aircrafts' schedule in order to make sure you get on one.

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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:02 pm

If you are looking to plan to fly on a BA aircraft it is nearly impossible to predict. The ex-BCAL aircraft is kept as one subgroup, the A2 fleet. This is 5 -111 and 5 -211 aircraft. So if you could find out which route is only operated by this fleet, then you would only have a 50pc chance of getting on one.
The other problem is that BA does not keep certain aircraft on certain routes. i.e. the BA779 will be operated by a A319 Monday, an A320 Tuesday and a B757 on Wednesday. The following week the B757 will be on Monday and the A319 on Tuesday. There is a plan inside BAs flight planning system, but to the outsider it is random choice.
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RE: A320-100 Routes

Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:19 pm

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 8):
Quoting PADSpot (Reply 6):
So the only attraction when flying these planes is the missing wing fence und the certainty that you fly on an at least 17 year old airplane?

The attraction (I presume) is that they're rare.

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Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 10):
it seems that AF's -100s are regularly used on the LHR route. Whenever I was in LHR there was a AF 100 around.

This may be useful, thanks.

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 10):
But you will probably have to contact an insider at AF or BA that can give you the specific aircrafts' schedule in order to make sure you get on one.

I hope they will help me. I must say I was impressed with BA's customer service when, back in 1999, I asked them the registrations of the planes I flew in 1995 and 1998: not only thay gave me the information, but they also mailed me a book about BA history. I hope this kind of excellent customer service hasn't changed since then.

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 11):
The ex-BCAL aircraft is kept as one subgroup, the A2 fleet. This is 5 -111 and 5 -211 aircraft. So if you could find out which route is only operated by this fleet, then you would only have a 50pc chance of getting on one.

This is interesting, thanks.

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