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SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:50 am

Hi, Can anybody tell me when former SA744 ZS-SAW enters service with CX as a Freighter. I know the A/C flew JNB-Xiamen March 15-16 2006 in full SA c/s as SA4288. Many thanks in advance from Timetable.
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:55 am

I don't think it has yet, I reckon it takes more than a month to convert to freighter.
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:30 am

Dont quote me but I think its at least 3-4 months for the conversion and there is already a CX (ex SQ) and a JL (ex JL) being converted.
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:20 pm

I believe it was going to enter service in September, but I might be wrong....I really can't remember!
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:20 pm

Hey Flyboy! Is it likely that CX will purchase anymore 744 PAX second hand?
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:26 pm

Hard to say. There are talks going on with the union about how to expand the number of aircrew. There are a few suggestions but they need to sign an agreement first. If this is done, then it is quite possible for us to get more, however if it isn't done, then we will have a challenge crewing the aircraft we have on order, let alone get more pax 744s.

What is a more likely possibility though, is getting more 744s to convert to freighters. The freighters are crewed seperately, so are easier to expand.
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:27 pm

It will be re-registered as B-HUS, I believe it is still in Xiamen.
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:43 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 4):
Is it likely that CX will purchase anymore 744 PAX second hand?

In addition to the three ex-SQ planes already converted to CX pax configuration, there are three more ex-SQ planes to become CX pax planes.
9V-SMQ, 9V-SMV and one more (Boeing effectivity RT529, I don't have the tail number close by this morning).

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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:00 pm

Hm, isn't 9V-SMQ with El Al right now?

I have SMR as another aircraft that is supposed to go to CX, can you confirm that?
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 8):
Hm, isn't 9V-SMQ with El Al right now?

Supposed to be either in Xaimen now or will be soon.

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 8):
I have SMR as another aircraft that is supposed to go to CX, can you confirm that?

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9V-SMR and 9V-SMH are going to be converted to CX freighter configuration along with ZS-SAW and ZS-SAV.

Quoting Tod (Reply 7):
In addition to the three ex-SQ planes already converted to CX pax configuration, there are three more ex-SQ planes to become CX pax planes.
9V-SMQ, 9V-SMV and one more (Boeing effectivity RT529, I don't have the tail number close by this morning).

The third ex-SQ plane is 9V-SPD.

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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:46 pm

I thought all the other SQ aircraft are for freighters.
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:22 am

Quoting N754PR (Reply 10):
I thought all the other SQ aircraft are for freighters.

Nope.

The current plan is for a total of six ex-SQ planes to become CX pax.
Three done, three to go.

Tod

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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:15 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 11):
The current plan is for a total of six ex-SQ planes to become CX pax.
Three done, three to go.

I think you will find that the other 3 are for Freighter conversion or atleast they were, as CXFlyboy said above CX are short of aircrew but at the same time seem to be short of aircraft aswell.
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:38 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 12):
I think you will find that the other 3 are for Freighter conversion or atleast they were, as CXFlyboy said above CX are short of aircrew but at the same time seem to be short of aircraft aswell.

My reply was in reference to us purchasing any MORE 744s for pax. It was not in reference to the 744s we already have planned on the way. I am not sure if we are getting anymore pax 744s out of the ones already announced...I've heard so many things that I cannot keep up with what is what anymore!!
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:05 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 2):
JL (ex JL) being converted.

Wait, do you have the Japan reg for this one? I never heard of it. Is it JA8072 or one of the earlier 744?
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 13):
My reply was in reference to us purchasing any MORE 744s for pax. It was not in reference to the 744s we already have planned on the way. I am not sure if we are getting anymore pax 744s out of the ones already announced...I've heard so many things that I cannot keep up with what is what anymore!!

Ok sorry I wasn't clear. CX originally brought 8 second hand 744's including orders for 6 744BCF's. 3 of the ex SQ aircraft have joined the pax fleet and CX converted B-HOU to a freighter so the 744 PAX fleet gained 2 aircraft taking the fleet from 19 to 21. The other 3 ex SQ and 2 ex SAA are/were originally for freighter conversion plus B-HOU so theres the 6 BCF's.

Quoting Tod (Reply 11):
The current plan is for a total of six ex-SQ planes to become CX pax.
Three done, three to go.

Sorry I misread that yesterday, so maybe the plan has changed, so you are saying that 9V-SPD will join the pax fleet? This aircraft is newer than all of CX's pax aircraft so I guess it could and even should be correct.
 
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RE: SA/CX744 ZS-SAW Question

Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:53 pm

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 15):
so you are saying that 9V-SPD will join the pax fleet?

That is correct.
I've started working on my portion of the engineering last week.

Tod