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Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:58 am

Seems they are going to buy them, one for Farnborough?

By James Peng
April 27 (Bloomberg) -- China Airlines plans to buy 10 of Boeing Co.'s 747-8 passenger aircraft costing almost $2.5 billion, the Economic Daily News reported, without citing anyone.

The two sides are expected to sign the deal by the end of June, the Taipei-based, Chinese-language newspaper said.


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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:13 am

Wow! Way to go Boeing!

Yeah, it smacks a bit of politics, but an order is an order.
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:13 am

Well it's about bloody time!!!
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:42 am

If this is true... this is a major loss for Airbus. They need more Chinese customers and losing China Airlines, in my opinion, is a a major disappointment.

For one, they already operate Airbus jets so the A380 could have been a natural fit... Secondly, Boeing one a first round A380 vs 748. Boeing needed this win to gain credibility.

Congrats to Boeing and China Airlines!
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting CWFan (Reply 1):
an order is an order.

... and an unsourced report is just a rumor with some credibility.

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 3):
Congrats to Boeing and China Airlines!

I'm holding off on congratulations until we have a more reliable source.
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 3):
If this is true... this is a major loss for Airbus. They need more Chinese customers and losing China Airlines, in my opinion, is a a major disappointment.

China Airlines is Taiwanese and they already operate 744s, so it's not that big of a loss for Airbus. But it's a great first win for the 747-8I!
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:49 am

Quoting CWFan (Reply 1):
Yeah, it smacks a bit of politics, but an order is an order.

Yes.

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 3):
If this is true... this is a major loss for Airbus. They need more Chinese customers and losing China Airlines, in my opinion, is a a major disappointment.

How so? China Airlines will likely fly both as China makes another political order for the A380.

Or China may just decide they can't split up fleets the way they do with the smaller jets and decide which carriers will be A380 and which will be 748i customers.

But it's not a loss. There will be tit for tat.
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:52 am

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 6):
so it's not that big of a loss for Airbus.

Look, there are not many airlines need the capacity of 744, let alone the A380. So when you have an airline choose to increase their growth with the 748 or te A380 its a loss for the other. Simple as that...
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 3):
They need more Chinese customers and losing China Airlines, in my opinion, is a a major disappointment.

As far as the Chinese customers Airbus wants, an ROC carrier is probably a lower priority.

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 8):
Look, there are not many airlines need the capacity of 744

Um, 442 744 deliveries disagrees with you on that.
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:57 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Or China may just decide they can't split up fleets the way they do with the smaller jets and decide which carriers will be A380 and which will be 748i customers.

I believe you are confusing Taiwan (China Airlines) with mainland China.

Don't get me wrong, when China Airlines buys anything there are certainly politics involved. However, it is unlikely that CI will buy A380's if they go ahead with this 747-8 purchase. Possible, but unlikely.

OTOH, even though politics will certainly be involved, I must say this order makes a lot of sense as well. CI has been looking for a 744 replacement for a while now, and with an extraordinarily large 744 (pax and freighter) fleet, the 748 is a great replacement.

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:59 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
Um, 442 744 deliveries disagrees with you on that.

How many airlines operate the 744? How many airlines that operate the 744 will opt for more frequencies for growth? How many are left? How many will go for the A380? How many will opt for the 748?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
As far as the Chinese customers Airbus wants, an ROC carrier is probably a lower priority.

Don't be silly... every customer counts in this niche market.
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:59 am

Well, the politics behind this potential order is President Chen's upcoming tour in May. The Taiwanese authorities hope that President Chen can transit in the U.S.

The rumors have faced great opposition from the opposition party.
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:17 am

Quoting Alexchao (Reply 12):
Well, the politics behind this potential order is President Chen's upcoming tour in May. The Taiwanese authorities hope that President Chen can transit in the U.S.

   The order is quid pro quo for playing the Taiwanese anthem when PRC's president Hu Jintao was in D.C.

  

[Edited 2006-04-27 04:18:23]
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:30 am

 Silly You won't believe what Boeing has in mind for the 8 all I can say is watch out Airbus the A-380 is already obsolete.
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:32 am

I hope this means that IAH will go n/s at some point.
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:33 am

Quoting DreamLnr2008 (Reply 14):
You won't believe what Boeing has in mind for the 8 all I can say is watch out Airbus the A-380 is already obsolete.

Welcome to A.net!

I'm sure Boeing has a lot envisioned for the -8... the question is, do the airlines think the same way? :p
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:36 am

Great news for Boeing and the B748i, I can't wait to see them in service.

Boeing seems to be having an amazing first half of 2006!
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting DreamLnr2008 (Reply 14):
You won't believe what Boeing has in mind for the 8 all I can say is watch out Airbus the A-380 is already obsolete.

Bowling alleys, a shopping mall and swimming pool? Or as it is an American product - a drive-thru restaurant?

Everybody has a lot in mind, only a fraction of that materializes...
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 18):
Bowling alleys, a shopping mall and swimming pool? Or as it is an American product - a drive-thru restaurant?

Everybody has a lot in mind, only a fraction of that materializes...

Very true! A plane like the 748 or A380 has the highest cost per sq. meter of real estate anywhere. So the only amenity you will see are lots and lots of seats.
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 15):
I hope this means that IAH will go n/s at some point

As long as they don't stop serving SEA - I love seeing the CI A340 a couple times a week  Smile
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 19):
Very true! A plane like the 748 or A380 has the highest cost per sq. meter of real estate anywhere. So the only amenity you will see are lots and lots of seats.

Unless they use space that can't be used for seats and the economics of carrying any extra weight justifies said use.  Wink
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:23 pm

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 10):
I believe you are confusing Taiwan (China Airlines) with mainland China.

No, I was confusing China Airlines with Air China.  Wink

Which is why they want to change the name, right?

Yes, that changes the issue entirely. Expect no 380s at China Airlines.

Expect both at Air China... Big grin
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:52 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 5):
an unsourced report is just a rumor with some credibility.



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 5):
I'm holding off on congratulations until we have a more reliable source.

I find these to be quite an equitable response to the report. I too believe it better to wait until further information is available.

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:00 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 23):
I find these to be quite an equitable response to the report

Well, I never say congratulations to huge corporations, even if the news is official. I don't really see the point...
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:19 pm

Interesting..

found this on Bloomberg..

"China Airlines to Pick Boeing 747-8 or Airbus A380 by Year End
April 26, 2006 22:53 EDT -- China Airlines, Taiwan's largest air carrier, said it will pick the supplier of its new large airplanes by the end of this year, denying an Economic Daily News report that it had chosen Boeing Co. for the order."
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:34 pm

Forbes' 'Welcome screen quotation' today seems very apposite:-

"Half the work done in this world is to make things appear as they are not."  Smile

However, the last two paragraphs in the story itself also seem to ring true:-

"The Taiwan government has told the island's largest carrier to 'aggressively' evaluate Boeing's 747-8 passenger jetliner mainly due to diplomatic considerations, the report said.

"China Airlines is majority-owned by the government, held through the China Aviation Development Foundation."


I've always felt that the passenger 748 can't fail to do some business in the 747 replacement field. The only question appears to be, 'How much?"
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:42 pm

Boeing order and American replies all over the shop... how strange  Smile May I add that the 748 and A388 are not for the same use like the A350 / 787.

Anyway great that someone has ordered the 1st pax 748's, can't wait to see them in Hong Kong! When are they due to start delivering the 748's?
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:43 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 26):

I've always felt that the passenger 748 can't fail to do some business in the 747 replacement field. The only question appears to be, 'How much?"

I see a heck of a lot of carriers potentially purchasing it......

LH, BA, CX, JL, NH, SQ, UA, QF, and KL are among a few...

Both Boeing and GE have predicted around 300 frames will be sold.....
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 8):
there are not many airlines need the capacity of 744



Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
442 744 deliveries disagrees with you on that.

Each of those 442 JumboJets delivered was ordered for at least one of three reasons:
1) lowest CASM of all available airliners,
2) no other airliner had sufficient range (true at the time of most of the orders), or
3) no other airliner had sufficient capacity.

My guess is that the orders placed exclusively or mainly for reason #3 are about 10-20% of the total.
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:24 pm

Again a near order for the 748i. We have seen countless articles reporting that airline XYZ is interested in the 748i, Boeing spokesman have repeadetly said that they are in talks with airlines and that there is a lot of interest. One would think if airlines are really that interested, they'd jump to become launch customer, the discounts that come with it should certainly make it an even more attractive aircraft than Boeing claims it is. Despite all this, no orders. If airlines are waiting to see how the A380 performs in commercial service before taking decisions, and it performs as expected, apparently EK, being updated by Airbus, seems to be confident enough to possibly order additional jets, the 748i could end up playing a marginal role in the VLA passenger market. Nowhere near the predicted marketshare of 50%.


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Quoting Manni (Reply 30):
near order for the 748i. We have seen countless articles reporting that airline XYZ is interested in the 748i, Boeing spokesman have repeadetly said that they are in talks with airlines and that there is a lot of interest. One would think if airlines are really that interested, they'd jump to become launch customer, the discounts that come with it should certainly make it an even more attractive aircraft than Boeing claims it is. Despite all this, no orders. If airlines are waiting to see how the A380 performs in commercial service before taking decisions, and it performs as expected, apparently EK, being updated by Airbus, seems to be confident enough to possibly order additional jets, the 748i could end up playing a marginal role in the VLA passenger market. Nowhere near the predicted marketshare of 50%.

keep your pants on mate...we have a long way to go before the end of the year.........as I've mentioned before, both Boeing and GE have stated that they expect to sell about 300 748 frames in total......
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:54 pm

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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:55 pm

sorry,

but political orders simply do not thrill me... Wink
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:25 pm

Quoting CWFan (Reply 1):
Yeah, it smacks a bit of politics, but an order is an order.

I don't understand the need for any political pressure. IIRC a month or so ago it was reported that the airline wanted more 747 freighters. The suggested plan was that some older pax 747's would be converted to freighters, requiring those pax 747's to be replaced. 747-I is the obvious candidate, isn't it?
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:45 pm

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 6):
China Airlines is Taiwanese and they already operate 744s, so it's not that big of a loss for Airbus.

...and not only that. They are in stiff competition with Korean as to which airlines that has got the most crasses under their belt!

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:18 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 24):
Well, I never say congratulations to huge corporations, even if the news is official. I don't really see the point...

Haha, yes i agree. Congradulations Boeing on becoming about 50+ Billion pounds richer than me
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:22 pm

Wow nice!

But still a kind of a careful start for the B748 PAX no?

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:26 pm

This is simply the beginning of the end for the 380. IMO, operators are now aware just how many PAX they are going to be required to stuff in the Whale to make money. This is a HUGE loss for Airbus.

Initially I believe operators were under the impression they could make money with around 500 PAX.

Your going to to need at least 650+ to break even in the Whale, IMO. For those looking at what they thought the 380 would be, the 748 just became the ticket.

Too bad really. I think if there were any hope of oil going back to and staying at $50 USD a barrel the 380 would have a better chance. Unfortunately it's going to stay at $70+.

The 380 was a great idea at the wrong point in history. Sound like another plane we know?  Smile
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:32 pm

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 38):
Your going to to need at least 650+ to break even in the Whale, IMO.

What a load of unfounded BS, simply put.
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:35 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 24):
Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 23):
I find these to be quite an equitable response to the report

Well, I never say congratulations to huge corporations, even if the news is official.

I never said you did. My comment on Zvezda's remarks were correct. I reported the initial news at hand. He urged caution as the report was in it's infancy. I concured with his statements as it was another newswire reporting from another publication. Manni and Keesje have since provided updated details as more factual reports emerged.

If you didn't selectively quote my full comment which was

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 23):
I find these to be quite an equitable response to the report. I too believe it better to wait until further information is available.

Wherever there is a Boeing salesperson there will be one from Airbus too and vice versa. As we now have more facts we know the RFP is in full play. So respectfully;

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 24):
I don't really see the point...

in your response to my comment

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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:41 pm

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 11):
every customer counts in this niche market.

Has anybody else noticed that just about every plane is being labeled as a niche on this site these days?

Quoting DreamLnr2008 (Reply 14):
ou won't believe what Boeing has in mind for the 8 all I can say is watch out Airbus the A-380 is already obsolete.

Why dont you inform us then.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 25):
"China Airlines to Pick Boeing 747-8 or Airbus A380 by Year End
April 26, 2006 22:53 EDT -- China Airlines, Taiwan's largest air carrier, said it will pick the supplier of its new large airplanes by the end of this year, denying an Economic Daily News report that it had chosen Boeing Co. for the order."

I guess its premiture to take these reports at face value.......

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 26):
"The Taiwan government has told the island's largest carrier to 'aggressively' evaluate Boeing's 747-8 passenger jetliner mainly due to diplomatic considerations, the report said.

"China Airlines is majority-owned by the government, held through the China Aviation Development Foundation."

To be honest, I find it funny when one of these carriers orders either Boeing or Airbus and then its labeled as a great victory on a.net. Cmon, these airlines will automatically order from both sides, its all political.
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:45 pm

Quoting EI321 (Reply 41):
I guess its premiture to take these reports at face value.......

Yes, it's premature to take at face value a report, quoting no sources, that an airline is going to place a particular order. From time to time, misinformation is deliberately leaked to the media to influence negotiations. Until there is an official announcement, it's just a rumor -- possibly a highly credible rumor.
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:53 pm

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 38):
This is simply the beginning of the end for the 380. IMO, operators are now aware just how many PAX they are going to be required to stuff in the Whale to make money. This is a HUGE loss for Airbus.

Initially I believe operators were under the impression they could make money with around 500 PAX.

Your going to to need at least 650+ to break even in the Whale, IMO. For those looking at what they thought the 380 would be, the 748 just became the ticket.

Too bad really. I think if there were any hope of oil going back to and staying at $50 USD a barrel the 380 would have a better chance. Unfortunately it's going to stay at $70+.

The 380 was a great idea at the wrong point in history. Sound like another plane we know? Smile

Is it just me is their something wrong with the statement above?

If the price of fuel was to escalate even more than I truly believe that the A380 will have even more potential. Airlines will most likely have to reduce some luxuries that we have began to be accustomed to. (less frequencies, more pax) in order to keep up with demand.


Ill give you an example:

Wouldn't an airline rather deploy 1x A380-800/900 rather than 2x A346/B773?


Another point that I wish to make clear is the fact that many members here believe that Airbus will not improve on the A380. Next Generation engines can easily be introduced on to the A380, as Boeing is doing to the B748i This alone should help bring the A380 economics one step ahead the proposed B748i.

Any one care to elaborate on some of the points above? All sensible post are welcome.

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Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:06 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 43):
Any one care to elaborate on some of the points above? All sensible post are welcome.

There will soon be lower capacity, lower CASM alternatives to the A380 available to the airlines that want to maintain high frequency schedules. The A380 may not pan out to be the panacea you anticipate in the long-term.
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:06 pm

There are more than three people in this topic who made a complete fool out of themselves.

If the order is true, nice to see some competition in this market segment. Another plane to ride on for my collection.

Having seen the demo video of the 748 I am really interested what will materialize.

http://video.boeing.com:8080/asx_ext...l/events/747_8_FlyThrough_22mb.asx
 
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:08 pm

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 38):
This is a HUGE loss for Airbus.

Save that quote Glideslope. You might want to use that in the future, as eventualy someone might end up being the 748i launch customer. If you had cared to read al posts, you would have known by now that Bloomberg corrected themselfes.  ashamed  Yes indeed, no order yet for the 748i. After reports of PIA and JET about to order the 748i, this was again hot air, no more.

Quoting Glideslope (Reply 38):
Your going to to need at least 650+ to break even in the Whale, IMO. For those looking at what they thought the 380 would be, the 748 just became the ticket.

A specialist at work. Some of the worlds most profitable airlines have ordered the A380 and at this point, most are able to cancel their orders if they wanted to. SIA will operate the A380 with more than 150 seats less, than they need to break even. Right?  Silly

Quoting Abba (Reply 35):
They are in stiff competition with Korean as to which airlines that has got the most crasses under their belt!

KE's last fatal crash involved a 74F in 1999. IIRC the last fatal passenger crash went down in Guam in 1997. Even tough their previous crashses can't be erased from their history, the current KE is very different than it used to be.
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:29 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 43):
Wouldn't an airline rather deploy 1x A380-800/900 rather than 2x A346/B773?

That depends on the shape of the demand curve.
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:31 pm

This caught my eye from Keesje's article . Which might give Boeing a better shot at this deal ! Going with the 747-8 will fit China Air's simplification program ???

Halibut

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...100&sid=aD4XRAYOeMvk&refer=germany


China Air will halve the number of aircraft types in its fleet to three next year to reduce maintenance costs, Wei said on March 16. The airline, which operates 67 planes as of September 2005, will sell some of its older planes, such as its Airbus A300s, and only keep its A330-300s, Boeing 737-800s and 747-400s, Wei said.
6 million Jews were slaughtered-Do you see Jews flying planes into buildings in Germany to kill 1000s of innocent, NO !
 
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RE: Report: China Airlines To Buy 10 X 748I

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:47 pm

Don't forget that a lot of the political pressure upon both the PRC and ROC as to purchasing aircraft from Boeing has to do with the trade deficit. Boeing aircraft are the #1 manufactured non-military product exports of the USA. It is about the only thing we make with lots of employment involved and $$$'s in sales that can even begin to offset out trade deficits with those countries. It also helps to placate some of the trade fears.
Perhaps in the larger context, the 747-800 may be the 'right size' for their needs, are well established aircarft with those airlines, they have people already trained and experienced with Boeing aircraft and to add Airbus may not be a good idea. Many of us here have critized where airlines have both Boeing and Airbus aircraft, even for similar class aircraft, causing higher maintence costs, maintenance staff reduntancies and so on.

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