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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Mon May 01, 2006 2:36 pm

AI Express to increase flights, add 3 Indian cities in 2006. Link:
http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=291761&ssid=53&sid=BUS

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Low-cost public sector carrier Air India Express, which completed one year of operations to the Gulf, today said it will expand its network to three more Indian cities. With this, Air India Express will cater to eight destinations in the country.

The Airline, a wholly-owned Air India subsidiary, also intends to increase its flights from 42 to 73 in a week by the end of this year. The airline has experienced a high seat factor of over 90 per cent, generally throughout its first year of operation, he said.

The carrier, which now flies from Thiruvananthapuram, Kochi, Kozhikode, Mumbai and Delhi, would add Trichy, Mangalore and Amritsar to its list of Indian cities.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Mon May 01, 2006 5:37 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
The carrier, which now flies from Thiruvananthapuram, Kochi, Kozhikode, Mumbai and Delhi, would add Trichy, Mangalore and Amritsar to its list of Indian cities.

I hope the state government in Karnataka is able to staff the immigration counters at IXE soon. Without this, AIX cannot commence operations.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Mon May 01, 2006 11:43 pm

Hey LAX,
Might be a good idea to include a link to previous thread when starting a new one. I don't get to do much surfing over the weekend and I would like to read the last of the previous posting with out searching. I'll do the honors this time.
Indian Aviation Thread: Part 16 (by LAXDESI Apr 20 2006 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 12:08 am

Quoting VTNYC (Reply 2):

and link to the new thread at the end of previous one..its kinda pain to search through the list..
thnx
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 12:54 am

Runway gives landing blues

From: http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1026719&CatID=1

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Passengers from Bangalore, Hyderabad and Kolkata were kept hovering above Mumbai airport for an hour due to problems on the runway on Friday afternoon.

It also led to around 15 flights of Jet Airways, Indian, Air Deccan and Spice Jet being delayed, leaving passengers stranded on the ground.

"A circle of depression (damage due to broken tar) was found at the beginning point (aircraft touch-down spot) on the runway 14-side (secondary runway), which led to the closure for 30 minutes," airport sources said.

The main runway, 9-27, was closed from 1.15 pm to 1.45 pm due to refurbishment of the Instrument Landing System; during the closure period, the secondary runway was opened to avoid delays, Air Traffic Control sources added.

After detecting the depression on the runway, which was caused by a sharp turn of an aircraft on secondary runway 14-side, the main runway was opened again after sometime.

But the runway 9-side faced tail winds- the wind was in the direction of landings( which makes aircraft landing difficult and risky during landing). This is said to be the second such incident in past two months.

However, Mumbai Airport Director, RJ Treasuriwala, refused to comment on the matter.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 1:32 am

Jet Airways pilot academy, cargo airline coming. New flights to Zurich, Los Angeles, Munich. Jet Airways claimed that as of now, it commands 24% marketshare in the Mumbai-London route. Link:
http://www.talkingtarmac.com/launch/jet-cargo.asp

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Jet Airways is planning to launch a cargo airline within the next two years. It will be headed by a former UPS official. Jet Airways hopes to tap the rising demand for freight transport in the country with the cargo airline. Recently, the company's outgoing COO Peter Luethi had said that the airline last year 67% of its revenues from cargo. The airline also has plans to start a pilot training academy.

Jet Airways also plans to tap the demand for increasing India-bound tourist travel with the launch of new overseas flights to Zurich, Los Angeles and Munich. However, the company may still have a few hurdles to clear, with permission for US flights stuck in the corridors of power. It is also planning direct Amritsar-Birmingham and Amritsar-London flights in 2 months.

The airline is also in talks to tie up with foreign carriers like Air New Zealand and Qantas, said Jet Airways board member Vic Dungca.

Jet it has recorded a 71% rise in its net profit in the last quarter. The profit for the period was Rs 227.12 crore, as against to Rs 133 crore in the corresponding previous quarter. Total income during the quarter rose to Rs 1,969.56 crore from the previous Rs 1,222.61 crore. Jet Airways is planning to raise more resources to finance expansion. It will come out with a $300 follow-on equity issue soon, along with an FCCB issue for $800 million.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 1:35 am

Agreement for NZ airlines to fly daily to India. Link:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest/200605012023/2a48bbe5

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New Zealand and India are due to sign a landmark agreement on Tuesday, allowing New Zealand airlines to fly to India daily. The Economic Development Minister Trevor Mallard says the two countries have had an air services pact since 1996, but arrangements for airline operations were never finalised.

A New Zealand airline will be able to operate seven aircraft services a week to Mumbai via Australia or Singapore. They would also be able to code share with an Indian partner airline to five Indian cities as often as they wished.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 1:53 am

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 1):
hope the state government in Karnataka is able to staff the immigration counters at IXE soon. Without this, AIX cannot commence operations.

Isn't immigration a Central govt. responsibility...?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 6:24 am

Cathay Pacific bullish on prospects in India

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The Hong Kong-based airline, Cathay Pacific, is bullish about the prospects in the Indian air passenger and cargo markets.

"India is a key focus area for the airline. Where cargo is concerned India accounts for 35 per cent of the airline's revenue and it is growing. As the number of aircraft in the fleet grows, we would consider launching more cargo flights here," the airline's Bahrain-based General Manager, West Asia, India and Africa, Mr Tom Wright, said.

The airline is to start operating a twice-a-week freighter flight on the Hong Kong-Mumbai-Chennai-Hong Kong sector with a Boeing 747-200 aircraft from June 2 this year.

At present, the airline freighter service to India includes a three-times-a-week flight to Mumbai that continues to Dubai and Paris and then returns to Hong Kong through Dubai.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 6:49 am

Jet looking skyward

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Jet Airways (India) Ltd, the country�s biggest domestic airline, said it may exercise options to buy 20 planes from Airbus SAS and Boeing Co as it adds overseas routes.

The order, valued at $4.2 billion, is for 10 A330s made by Airbus and 10 Boeing 777s, adding to 20 planes of the same designs ordered in June 2005. ...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 6):

so we might see AKLDELNonstop earlier than previously expected. 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 11:50 am

Mallya may buy foreign airline. Part of plan to fly to US. Link:
http://www.talkingtarmac.com/others/kingfisher-acquisition.asp

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Vijay Mallya, chairman and MD of Kingfisher Airlines has confirmed that "acquiring an international airline" is very much in his current plans. According to a Times of India report, Mallya is in "advanced negotiations" for this acquisition, which will allow the carrier to operate flights into India. Mallya has repeatedly shown interest in operation flights in the India-US sector.

Mallya, who is interested in controlling the non-stop Bangalore-San Francisco and Mumbai-New York routes, said, according to the report, "I have a plan in mind and acquiring an international airline is part of that plan. I will make a formal announcement once the deal is signed." The deal follows in the wake of Mallya's aborted attempt at acquiring rival Air Sahara.

According to a source cited in the report, "The move aims at cruising past Indian regulations that restrict international flights only to airlines that have a five-year domestic flight track record." The indications are, therefore, that the new acquisition will involve an airline that is in some difficulty in the International market. According to an analyst cited in the report, "A lot of new American carriers are facing trouble and airlines are fast cruising into bankruptcy….This is the ideal opportunity to acquire one of the smaller airlines."
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 11):

which ones are up for grabs and affordable for VM. Likes of America West and US Airways?
Seems to be a good topic of discussion/speculation..get your juices flowing even if it is a gossip.
I'd presume he'd like to have controling stake, else wait for 5yrs and fly using your own metal and colours from India.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 1:41 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 12):
which ones are up for grabs and affordable for VM. Likes of America West and US Airways?

The merged entity America West/US Airways is out of question as its market capitalization is around $3.6 billion. I am not sure if there is anything else with decent international operations. I figure he needs to buy an airline for its operating licence and then apply for routes to India.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 4:04 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 10):
so we might see AKLDELNonstop earlier than previously expected.

Aah yes!!! Big grin

There is another thread on this. Ive put more info on tht. Here's the link:
India Signs Open Skies Agreement With New Zealand (by Zkpilot May 2 2006 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 4:23 pm

Perhaps he is reffering to his founding father JetBlue-----just kidding i am sure that B6 wont sell------which other US carriers can he consider

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 5:40 pm

New BLR Airport - Plane sailing: 20% work complete

From: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1511761.cms

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DEVANAHALLI (BANGALORE RURAL): The road to the airport is the first indication that Bangalore's 10-year-old dream is taking concrete shape: The access road from the NH-4 to the Bangalore international airport site has been levelled and the first layer of granular sub-base (GSB) prior to asphalting has been laid.

As things stand at the end of 10 months, about 20% of the airport construction work is complete, with work ahead of schedule in several aspects. The S shape of the runway has been formed, GSB has been laid on about 2.5 km of the 4 km runway.

And there is a sense of burning urgency among the 2,000 workmen on site to get this protective layer finished on all surfaces - runway, taxiway, two access roads and an air side road before monsoon hits by June. "We are doing all that is possible.

If the GSB is not done, and rains come down like they did last October, the mud that has been levelled will break or wash away and we will have to do everything again," Bangalore International Airport Limited (BIAL) chief projects officer Sivaramakrishnan S Iyer said.

The runway, taxiway and apron area, all cleared and levelled, stand on the exact spot where the erstwhile Arasinakunte village was located. Workmen are filling in an open well - the last visible reminder of that village barely an year ago.

Eleven buildings are in various stages. The contentious terminal building - that the Union civil aviation minister Praful Patel wants expanded - is about 400 metres from the runway.

The basement of this sprawling building has been completed, the ground floor is being laid. Engineering for the redesign of this building that will expand its capacity to handle 11.4 million passengers per year instead of 4.5 million is still going on.

But work on the terminal building will not be hampered: The final design has to reach the construction site latest by February 2007, which is nine months away.

The administrative block, which was the first building to be taken up, is structurally complete with two floors. Plastering work and grooves for electricity and plumbing is taking place.

The Air Traffic Control tower, that will be a dizzying 65 metres high (213.42 feet) is being built at the rate of 2.5 metres every 10 days using a selfclimbing crane.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 8:54 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 15):
UA
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DL

you really think these biggies can be bought??  confused 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 9:43 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 7):
Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 1):
hope the state government in Karnataka is able to staff the immigration counters at IXE soon. Without this, AIX cannot commence operations.

Isn't immigration a Central govt. responsibility...?

It is a state govt. responsibility. Please read this:

http://www.blonnet.com/2006/04/24/stories/2006042403841500.htm
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 9:49 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 16):
The S shape of the runway has been formed, GSB has been laid on about 2.5 km of the 4 km runway.

An "S" shaped runway eh?
That will be a sight to see! LOL Big grin

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 9:56 pm

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 19):
An "S" shaped runway eh?
That will be a sight to see

I was amazed with that comment - maybe this has something to do with the substrate layers! Definitely not the best example of journalism!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Tue May 02, 2006 10:45 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 11):
Vijay Mallya, chairman and MD of Kingfisher Airlines has confirmed that "acquiring an international airline" is very much in his current plans.

somebody tell, is there a point in buying a US airlines, which comes with its own set of problems. Wouldn't it be better if VM waits for few years or applies all his energy to change Govt ruling. To me it seems he is either trying to prove a point or to put pressure on Govt to liberalize.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 11):
Vijay Mallya, chairman and MD of Kingfisher Airlines has confirmed that "acquiring an international airline" is very much in his current plans.

UA, NW, DL??? You were kidding right  Smile
B6, America West and US Airways - no chance

Even if he wanted to buy a majority stake in a US airline, it won�t be that easy. Even though his children are US citizens doesn�t mean he can just walk in and buy a stake in an airline (controlling stake or a minority), not to mention start flights to India.
This is all talk, I don�t see it happening.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 6:11 am

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...05/03/stories/2006050302670900.htm

Delhi, Mumbai airports in pvt hands
Our Bureau

New Delhi, May 2

In a move that would give a boost to the Government plans for modernising Delhi and Mumbai airports, the management of the two metro airports pass into private sector hands from midnight tonight. "The Operations, Management, Development Agreement, which is considered as the mother agreement for development of the two airports is now effective.

From midnight tonight the GMR group gets custody of Delhi airport, while Mumbai airport will be with GVK group," sources connected with the process said. Apart from undertaking mandated capital expenditure and fulfilling what has been promised at the time of submitting the bids to the Government, the two private sector companies would now be required to draw up a master plan for making the metro airports into world-class entities.



While I am sincerely hoping DEL and BOM get long overdue expansion and upgrades to reflect the current and future traffic levels and also gain due recognition along with HYD, BLR & MAA as major Indian gateways.

What is totally beyond me is that GOI is completing the transaction and locking the 30 or so yrs lease before getting a detailed description of the upgrades and investment the two companies are going to agree to for DEL & BOM respectively.

Is it just me who feels the preferred approach would have been to lock in the investment and upgrade agreements and then transfer the two Airports to the respective companies. It would be nice to hear opinions of other a.net members...

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting 9W77W (Reply 23):
What is totally beyond me is that GOI is completing the transaction and locking the 30 or so yrs lease before getting a detailed description of the upgrades and investment the two companies are going to agree to for DEL & BOM respectively.

I'd presume that must have been done, why else did GOI took so much time. Moreover, AAI will keep its members in the board so as to to see objectives/targets are met.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 1:40 pm

A-I merger with Indian to be put on fast track. I am not sure if they can bring this about within a year. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1513294.cms

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The government is planning to put the proposed mega-merger of public sector airlines Air-India and Indian on the fast track. The merger would be done during ‘06-07, civil aviation minister Praful Patel said on Tuesday.

The government will take a decision on the IPO plans of the two airlines once the merger plan is final, he said, replying to queries from media persons here.
The final decision would be based on the valuation that would result,” Mr Patel said. The two airlines have already appointed financial consultants to chalk out the roadmap for their IPO plans. To facilitate the merger between Air-India and Indian, the government is likely to appoint a global consultant.

A number of internal committees, comprising officials of the two public sector airlines would also be formed to study various aspects of the merger. Once the merger plan is approved by the Union cabinet, the boards of Air-India and Indian would initiate steps to integrate the two airlines.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 2:01 pm

Regional airlines to get more concessions, says Patel

From: http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=125739

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MAY 2: Civil aviation minister Praful Patel on Tuesday announced special sops to airline carriers operating in regional areas, besides providing a link to the metros. The concessions to such airlines will be extended on ATC, parking, goods and navigation charges.

"This move will give a boost to regional connectivity and may bring in more revenues. At present, some of the airports like Nagpur and Dehradun are underutilised," the minister said. Mr Patel also said he was not in favour of discontinuing the route dispersal guidelines, which makes it mandatory for airlines to link remote parts of the country.

Announcing that there would not be any major changes in the forthcoming aviation policy, he said that a multi-modal cargo hub will be created at Nagpur. While agreeing that more flights will only add to the congestion at metro airports, Mr Patel said solutions would be found to ease this. He also suggested the need to fix tariffs in accordance with the traffic during the day.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 2:05 pm

Two Air Deccan planes grounded

From: http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=180726

Quote:
No stand-by aircraft; five flights affected, hundred of passengers wait

Mumbai, May 2: TUESDAY was a bad day for Air Deccan in Mumbai, with two of the low-cost carrier's 30 aircraft - one ATR turboprop and an Airbus 320 - being grounded due to technical snags.

The hitch affected five flights out of Mumbai alone, and inconvenienced hundreds of passengers. Many were vacationing, with children in tow, and had to wait hours as the airline accommodated them on subsequent flights - some are still waiting and will leave on Wednesday morning.

Many simply gave up and cancelled their tickets.

For one 55-year-old from Nagpur, the 11.50 am flight back home was to be his first ever. Totally clueless about how to proceed after it was eventually cancelled around noon, he refused comment, saying he was afraid he would never be let on to another plane if he complained to the media.

He was eventually accommodated on a Wednesday morning flight. He still wouldn't comment.

Homemaker Binita Kapadia (30), who was booked on the 5.35 am flight back home to Kolkata, was a little more in the know, but still had to wait over seven hours with her eight-year-old son Harsh. "At 3 am, I got a call, saying the 5.35 am flight was delayed by four hours," she said. "We finally boarded and were on the tarmac when the pilot announced that it had been cancelled."

For Kapadia, who had an onward train connection in the morning, booking on another carrier was not an option as she had won the tickets and could not afford to buy replacements. She and her son were finally accommodated on a 4.40 pm Jet Airways flight to Kolkata.

Dubai-based businessman Pramod Aggarwal (42), booked on the same flight as the Kapadias, said he was more upset at the management's attitude than the cancellation.

"There were no airline staff at the airport," he said. "We had to lug our baggage from the arrival to the departure terminals ourselves to claim our refunds, and the terminals are almost a kilometre apart."

He, his wife and two children eventually opted for an Air Sahara flight, and had to buy the tickets for 50-per cent more.

"I'm hypothesising, but if there was a problem with customer assistance, it was probably because our staff was busy at the departure lounge," said Air Deccan Vice-President (Operations) Pritam Phillip. "Our team is now working on possible solutions for such cancellations."

The flights cancelled
* 5.35 am Mumbai-Kolkata
* 7.35 pm Mumbai-Bangalore
* 11.50 am Mumbai-Nagpur
* 12.10 pm Mumbai-Jamnagar
* 1.20 pm Mumbai-Nashik

DN's never going to make it to the big league if this attitude and MX problems continue. I hope (for their sake) that they clean up their act. These kind of reports are not going to help their IPO either.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 6:27 pm

India & Kenya revise ASA

Summary:

New agreement allows for 14 services per week for each side, with 2 designated carriers per side (earlier only 1 designated carrier), and using any aircraft/capacity.

Full details available at: http://www.dgca.nic.in/bilateral/mou_kenya.pdf

Edited: To add earlier ASA details.

[Edited 2006-05-03 11:33:58]
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 6:35 pm

India & Tanzania revise ASA

Summary:

New agreement allows for 14 services per week for each side (existing ASA allowed only 3 frequencies and single designated carrier), and multiple designated carriers, and any aircraft type.

More details at: http://www.dgca.nic.in/bilateral/mou-tanzania.pdf
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Wed May 03, 2006 11:49 pm

An article on infrastructure at Indian Airports. Nothing new to the anet regulars.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...chive/2006/04/03/8373080/index.htm
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 5:34 am

http://www.business-standard.com/com...o=89851&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg=
Jet Air to pursue discount strategy
P R Sanjai / Mumbai May 04, 2006

Full service airline Jet Airways has reiterated that it will offer 50 per cent of total tickets at discounted rates despite intense fare competition driving down yields.

Jet Airways will keep the full fare-discounted fare mix at 50:50 for the time to take on competition from other players including low-cost airlines.

“Yields from domestic and international operations will continue to remain under pressure. But we hope the fuel surcharge will help to mitigate the impact,” said a senior Jet executive.

Following the escalation in fuel prices, Jet had levied a fuel surcharge of Rs 300 on all fare levels on domestic routes, effective May 1. Jet had 9.56 million revenue passengers in the last fiscal.

The airline is also planning to unveil a new product for its domestic and international travellers, which would be declared in the next couple of weeks.

“There will be structural changes in seats and comfort for our travellers. These changes will be implemented soon,” he said. Jet will also induct eight additional aircraft this fiscal, including five Boeing B-737s for domestic operations, two Airbus A-330s and one B-737 for international operations.

“Jet Airways has earmarked Rs 11,000 crore as capital expenditure for acquiring 30 aircraft. Towards this, we will float a $500 million foreign currency convertible bond by May 31 followed by a follow-on public issue of $300 million,” he said.

Over 15 per cent of the total aircraft acquisition cost would be raised from loans from overseas export credit agencies, he said.

Meanwhile, Jet will consolidate operations on the UK and Asean routes. “The airline is planning to start second daily Mumbai-London Heathrow and Amritsar-London daily from July. India-Bangkok service is likely to launch from October,” he said.

A senior Jet Airways executive said the international operations incurred start-up losses of $38 million owing to lower yields, especially Mumbai-London and Delhi-London.

“Coupled with increasing fuel costs, pressure is likely to continue on yields as competitors are on aggressive fare discounting and capacity enhancement, particularly on UK routes,” he said.

However, established routes such as Mumbai-Singapore and Chennai-Kuala Lumpur are turning profitable and maturing.

Jet Airways is now looking at successful integration of Air Sahara operations to improve productivity and efficiency of operations.


I am guessing the loss shown by 9W on LHR operations for last year was on account of one-time gestation charges. I have heard numerous times they are 2/3'rds full on weekdays and almost sold out on weekends. Also checking on random web-sites http://www.expedia.co.uk or http://www.travelbag.co.uk or http://www.southalltravel.co.uk most times LHR-DEL/BOM rt prices between UK Pound 450 - 600 and always heigher than VS or Alitalia.

Note - Another indication in the article about ATQ-LHR service begining July, although no official word from 9W yet unlike the second BOM-LHR flight.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 5:59 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 27):

the only drawback with this airlines

Quoting Nimish (Reply 28):



Quoting Nimish (Reply 29):

good! India opening up with these countries. We should let them have more breathing space.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 7:01 am

Guys, are there any websites in place like the one for Hyderabad Airport for Delhi and Mumbai Airports? (Not the AAI crap)

perhaps its too soon...
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 9:40 am

SpiceJet adds four new flights. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1514540.cms

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Low-cost carrier SpiceJet on Wednesday announced four new flights in different sectors with the induction of its sixth Boeing aircraft. With the induction of a new Boeing 737-800 aircraft in its fleet, the airlines now offers a new flight in the Mumbai-Hyderabad sector and in addition, Mumbai also gets a second flight to Chennai, a statement by the airlines said.

The airlines also said it would add additional flights in the existing sectors of Delhi-Hyderabad-Chennai and Delhi-Jammu-Srinagar sectors.

The addition of the new aircraft would increase the capacity of the airlines to 9,000 seats a day from the current level of 7,500, it said. It would also lead to an effective increase in daily flights to 49 from 36 a day, it added. The new aircraft will be operational from May 10, it added
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 10:01 pm

Quoting 9W77W (Reply 31):
am guessing the loss shown by 9W on LHR operations for last year was on account of one-time gestation charges. I have heard numerous times they are 2/3'rds full on weekdays and almost sold out on weekends. Also checking on random web-sites http://www.expedia.co.uk or http://www.travelbag.co.uk or http://www.southalltravel.co.uk most times LHR-DEL/BOM rt prices between UK Pound 450 - 600 and always heigher than VS or Alitalia.

My aunt flew 9W twice already in feb and in april this year she paid 409 Pounds and 345 pounds all inclusive ---in feb she travelled on a weekend and in april on a weekday.---she bought the tickets each time just 2 days before.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 11:40 pm

looks like Kingfisher is even copying the Virgin business model .... Mallaya plans to buy a US airline and launch Kingfirsher Intl' some how the aircrafts look similar too.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Thu May 04, 2006 11:44 pm

Any news of when 9Ws leased A330s are going to arrive ?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 2:04 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 35):
paid 409 Pounds and 345 pounds all inclusive

Wow! Those were definitely good deals, maybe you can tell us any particular travel agents that carry those...

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting 9W77W (Reply 38):
Wow! Those were definitely good deals, maybe you can tell us any particular travel agents that carry those

the first one from opodo and the last one from priceline
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting 9W77W (Reply 38):
Wow! Those were definitely good deals, maybe you can tell us any particular travel agents that carry those...

I've seen fares to DEL, non-stop from LHR as little as £299 rtn, including taxes!
Here take a look at some of these fares:

http://www.hoodaki.com/india/

Taxes are not included in these fares, but if we add approx £110 for taxes, surcharges etc, they're still excellent. For example, LHR-DEL with S2 for £325 rtn, including taxes!
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 39):
the first one from opodo and the last one from priceline



Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 40):
http://www.hoodaki.com/india/

Thanks for the info! and sorry to take this thread slightly OT.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 28):
India & Kenya revise ASA

Summary:

New agreement allows for 14 services per week for each side, with 2 designated carriers per side (earlier only 1 designated carrier), and using any aircraft/capacity.

Full details available at: http://www.dgca.nic.in/bilateral/mou_kenya.pdf

Edited: To add earlier ASA details.



Quoting Nimish (Reply 29):
India & Tanzania revise ASA

Summary:

New agreement allows for 14 services per week for each side (existing ASA allowed only 3 frequencies and single designated carrier), and multiple designated carriers, and any aircraft type.

More details at: http://www.dgca.nic.in/bilateral/mou...a.pdf

= Perfec time as I have heard 9W wants to inaugurate service to NBO and DAR.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 3:30 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 42):
= Perfec time as I have heard 9W wants to inaugurate service to NBO and DAR.

Cool. 9W seems to have a great capacity to work the system! If they're able to get the MoCA officials running around and signing the revised ASAs, good job from 9W (if it is at their doing).
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 6:02 pm

AI board sets merger plan with IA in motion

From: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1516807.cms

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State-owned Air India on Thursday took the first step towards the proposed merger with Indian Airlines with its board granting a green signal to the appointment of an independent adviser for the exercise.

The airline will now invite tenders from firms specialising in such M&A activities to appoint the adviser.

"The advisor would guide airline through the modalities of the merger, and also help in appointing a separate consultant who will finally help in carrying out the integration of the two aviation behemoths," a source close to the development said.
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Government has already decided to rationalise the international operations of the two carriers to ensure that they do not compete with each other on any overseas route.

"Today both AI and IA compete with each other on several global routes. We will start with ending this by getting one of the airlines to withdraw from certain sectors," a source said.

What about the capacity lost on one withdrawing from the route? Will the other make up for lost capacity?

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 6:07 pm

Consortium gets down to work at Mumbai airport

From: http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=181034

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THE GVK Group-led joint venture company, Mumbai International Airport Private Limited (MIAL), which was handed over the Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport on Wednesday, is busy setting up office at the country's busiest airport.

On day two of MIAL's operations, Airports Authority of India (AAI) employees cleared furniture from the retiring rooms at the domestic terminal for the makeshift offices of the new management.

"A few of the retiring rooms will be the offices for the private company executives - some for the Hyderabad-based GVK group and some for the South African partners," said an AAI employee, as he carted off a chest of drawers - "for storage at the international terminal" - on a trolley.

Significantly, the OMDA (Operations, Maintenance and Development Agreement) - the document signed between the AAI and the private consortium on April 4, which gave MIAL the right to operate, maintain, develop, design, construct, upgrade, modernise, finance, and most importantly manage the Mumbai airport - was formally handed over by AAI Chairman K Ramalingam, in a ceremony attended by airline staff and AAI top brass, on Wednesday at Terminal 2C.

According to an airport official, MIAL Chairman G V Krishna Reddy, in an address to the staff, said they would ensure a smooth transition and reiterated that they would be meeting all airport personnel "from airlines to security to iron out problems with airport resources".
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Fri May 05, 2006 9:09 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 44):
What about the capacity lost on one withdrawing from the route? Will the other make up for lost capacity?

I suppose so.....else, the whole excercise would be futile....
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Sat May 06, 2006 2:25 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 46):
I suppose so.....else, the whole excercise would be futile....

i don't see any increase or decrease in capaciy. Let market forces determine that. What should happen is that both airlines should not be arriving or departing at the same time.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Sat May 06, 2006 6:04 am

AI enters market to dry lease 3 aircraft

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The airline plans to lease either three Boeing 747-400 or Boeing 777-200 Extended Range (ER) and needs the aircraft to maintain "schedule integrity" during the forthcoming winter.

"The current leased aircraft in the fleet will soon be going back after the expiry of their term, and, therefore, more aircraft are required," said a senior airline official.

The airline plans to induct the aircraft, which will seat 300 passengers in a three-class configuration, by September. ...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 17

Sat May 06, 2006 6:16 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 48):
AI enters market to dry lease 3 aircraft

It also says the airline will look at the wet leasing option in case the aircraft are not available on dry lease.
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