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litz
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Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:07 am

Had to go to OKC tonight for work, the travel office booked me out on DL and back on AA.

Checking in online for DL, my Itinerary was rather surprising :

http://terminus.litz.org/dl-aa.jpg

American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

I've had mixed flights before (DL and AA in fact) and never seen this before ...

All I can say, is if this is true, and eventually we get full codeshare and FF benefits sharing, I'm going to be real, real, happy - that's two networks where travelers on each side will benefit greatly.

(if this actually is true, and isn't just a lark of the TechOps programming dept)

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:18 am

Litz:

Very curious. It certainly doesn't show up in the Host that way... AA is AA and if you ask for DL flights, AA as a code share do not come up.

And when I went to the DL website, the AA flights you are book on did not appear.

Haven't heard anything at the water coolers about this....!
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting Litz (Thread starter):
American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

I've had mixed flights before (DL and AA in fact) and never seen this before ...

All I can say, is if this is true, and eventually we get full codeshare and FF benefits sharing, I'm going to be real, real, happy - that's two networks where travelers on each side will benefit greatly.

I'll take a SkyTeam/OneWorld partnership so long as it means utter and complete Jihad against WN!!!! Same deal if it were SkyTeam/Star Alliance such as DL/AC since WN is the enemy of all civilized carriers!
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:26 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 2):
I'll take a SkyTeam/OneWorld partnership so long as it means utter and complete Jihad against WN!!!! Same deal if it were SkyTeam/Star Alliance such as DL/AC since WN is the enemy of all civilized carriers!

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:27 am

The only partnership I know of involving AA and DL is the one
out of LAX with American Eagle, which also code-shares on these
flights with CO, NW, AS, QF, and I think Cathay Pacific, too
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 11:29 am

I think the "operated by Delta partner" line must refer to the interline agreement (and E ticket agreement) DL has with AA and virtually every other airline. I'm sure it's not partner in the sense of CO, NW, AF, etc. Still, it is a bit confusing I'll admit.
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Fri May 05, 2006 2:46 pm

Quite so -- I've never had a cross-ticketed itinerary appear like this before ... from the other side, the AA end of things also lists the Delta flight.

The DL people at Hartsfield had no idea what was going on, and my flight itinerary, upon checkin @ the kiosk, did NOT list the AA flights.

Neither airlines webpage allows you to choose seats on the other carrier's flights, however. I really have no idea what's going on here, unless we're just seeing examples of increased computer interopability or something.

Or maybe this is a nascent deal in the works, dunno.

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 2:46 am

Any deal in the works would most likely leak to the press (at least a little bit) far before schedules are loaded, especially considering that a codeshare deal would likely trigger Federal reviews and limitations. When DL/CO/NW started their codeshare, it was extensively reviewed and there are caps on the number of flights allowed per day.

I think what you saw was a good old-fashioned bug.
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 4:20 am

DL and AA wouldn't be given the time of day by the DOJ. They tried to merge their CRSs at one time and even that was shot down. AA and DL have WAY too much overlap on the east coast (both are in top 3 carriers in many markets) as well as to Latin America and Europe.

I'm going w/ the bug theory too. Maybe, DL thinks it can acquire anyone, though.  Smile
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 6:00 am

United Air Lines Inc 2294* First (V) Confirmed Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 5:50pm
26 May 2006 Tampa, FL (TPA) 8:44pm
26 May 2006
* Operated by Delta

the same thing happend to me...

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 6:07 am

United Air Lines Inc 2294* First (V) Confirmed Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 5:50pm
26 May 2006 Tampa, FL (TPA) 8:44pm
26 May 2006
* Operated by Delta Partner

sorry i have missed the partner..

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 8:42 am

I believe this is a ticketing ploy by (insert travel agency here) in an effort to not scare away passengers. For instance, your typical Joe passenger hates knowing that he will fly MIA-IAD on UA and then IAD-PHL on US and PHL-LAS on HP and LAS-SEA on AS. Its more likely the bags would get lost and if one carrier has a weather delay or what not, that carrier can say, "Its your problem" for your connecting flights on other airliners.

So, if you have the flight booked and see a DL flight and then another flight, although on AA, you can put in parenthesis that its a Delta partner, and it suddenly makes it alright with everyone. And you really wouldn't be lying either if you were the travel agency, since both carriers have interline agreements with each other and could be considered "partners."
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 10:10 am

Except this wasn't from a travel agency (although it was booked through my employer's corporate travel office) - the picture linked above is direct from DL's website, showing the outbound DL flight, and AA returns.

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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 2:54 pm

Quoting Litz (Thread starter):
American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

You may accrue Skymiles for AA domestic segments. But that's as far as the cooperation goes.
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 2:59 pm

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 13):
You may accrue Skymiles for AA domestic segments. But that's as far as the cooperation goes.

As far as I know you would not get Skymiles for the AA flights listed on your itinerary as those AA flights are not codeshare fligts with DL. Only DL codeshare flights with AA Eagle would accrue Skymiles.
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 3:03 pm

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Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 14):
As far as I know you would not get Skymiles for the AA flights listed on your itinerary as those AA flights are not codeshare fligts with DL. Only DL codeshare flights with AA Eagle would accrue Skymiles.

Nope. All domestic AA flights are valid for accrual of Skymiles.

It's not advertised at all, but it's a fact.

Call the Skymiles desk and ask.


edit....now i'm not sure. we used to have an agreement with AA. i think it's still in effect, but i can't find any info on it.

[Edited 2006-05-06 08:06:20]
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 3:25 pm

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 15):
Nope. All domestic AA flights are valid for accrual of Skymiles.

It's not advertised at all, but it's a fact.

Call the Skymiles desk and ask.

I just checked the DL website. There is no FF agreement in place with AA other than the AA Eagle flights that DL puts their code on.
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 3:36 pm

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 16):
I just checked the DL website. There is no FF agreement in place with AA other than the AA Eagle flights that DL puts their code on.

Still, it does seem strange. It reminds me of the time DL labeled the airport code SJO on their website as Helsinki, Finland.  Confused I still have the screenshot of that typo somewhere.
 
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RE: Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?

Sat May 06, 2006 11:00 pm

My vote is in the "bug"/interline category... Looks like someone decided that "If 2 letter airline code is not 'DL' then display 'Delta Partner' message"

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