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My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 12:59 am

I don't have any inside track...or know anybody who can pull strings for me...I'm just an average flyer who has found an interesting "shortfall," if you will, in the UA system. Why share? Well, why not?!

I fly DEN-ORD and ORD-DEN on the 777 flights pretty regularly. Simply put, these flights are packed everytime.Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well. Last week, they overbooked the 777 DEN-ORD flight by 27 pax. On the 3rd call for somebody to give up their seat, I lit my FA call button (not believing they were already on their 3rd call for free ticket volunteers)...I was in no hurry, so why not let somebody else on-board who is. I gave up my seat, got a free ticket, got upgraded to 1st class (DEN-ORD-IAD) and called it a day.

This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

And, yes, these 777 flights are followed closely by an additional flight on the same route by five minutes or so...usually a 737 or an A320/19.

Mileage to get tickets? Hah! Not for me.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 1:18 am

Sounds like a good deal to me. Whenever I'm on a T7 route with my friends at UA its about 99%, so there's never an oversold opportunity. Now on US with all RJ flights, now we're talking a good deal (when it comes to oversolds).
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 1:20 am

This would make a good entry at: http://bumptracker.com/
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 1:23 am

wow, that a really nice reward from UA, for your generosity
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 1:55 am

I have always wondered if you can volunteer again to give up your seat for a free ticket when you are using your free-ticket voucher from the last trip. If so, it would be possible for someone to only ever pay for one ticket and keep flying free from then on (assuming you always fly overbooked routes).
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 2:10 am

You're right! I fly this route all the time and they are always packed. Last week I was sitting in first and they upgraded an economy passenger to F (double upgrade!). He didn't even know until he was on the plane and was soooo excited. The 777 flights (3-4 daily) are usually heavily overbooked during the end of the week and weekends, but during Mon, Tues, Wed they are pretty light in business class but almost always overflowing in back. The other night there were 54 standbys listed for my DEN-ORD flight (including me). I made it on as a BP5C, but I know that most were left behind.

I'm not eligible for DBC/VDB compenstation when I fly UA, but on this route there have been several times when I wish I were.

[Edited 2006-05-05 19:13:33]
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 2:18 am

Sounds like a good opportunity and strategy for your needs!

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one. If thats the case, the domestic 777 actually has one more seat than the 744.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one. If thats the case, the domestic 777 actually has one more seat than the 744

Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin. I always try to fly them every time I go out.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 2:25 am

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one.



Quoting LHUSA (Reply 7):
Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin.

LHUSA is correct. As far as I can remember, all of my T7 flights between DEN and ORD have been 3-cabins. (Not to say there aren't any 2-class T7s on DEN-ORD or ORD-DEN routes, I just haven't been on any)Actually, the only time I can recall being on a 2-class T7 was from IAD to DEN (about a year after UA started flying T7s).

[Edited 2006-05-05 19:53:23]
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 4:05 am

Quoting Junction (Reply 4):
I have always wondered if you can volunteer again to give up your seat for a free ticket when you are using your free-ticket voucher from the last trip. If so, it would be possible for someone to only ever pay for one ticket and keep flying free from then on (assuming you always fly overbooked routes).

I have done this several times. Back in 95-97 when my wife and I moved to LIM and flew regularly on AA to SFO to visit her mom, we would get bumped on the MIA-LIM portion, they would give us vouchers, we would purchase the next ticket with vouchers, and would then get bumped again and received more vouchers. We did this for two years solid, every two months. I estimate that we were probably given a total of 15,000 dollars. And yes, since this was treated as "cash" by AA we also earned ff miles regularly. One time, we had so many vouchers collected that we went to Miami to spend Easter weekend with our daughter, a four day trip just because.
These days, there is a lot more supply so the demand isn't has high. I haven't been bumped in years.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
I don't have any inside track...or know anybody who can pull strings for me...I'm just an average flyer who has found an interesting "shortfall," if you will, in the UA system. Why share? Well, why not?!

I fly DEN-ORD and ORD-DEN on the 777 flights pretty regularly. Simply put, these flights are packed everytime.Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well. Last week, they overbooked the 777 DEN-ORD flight by 27 pax. On the 3rd call for somebody to give up their seat, I lit my FA call button (not believing they were already on their 3rd call for free ticket volunteers)...I was in no hurry, so why not let somebody else on-board who is. I gave up my seat, got a free ticket, got upgraded to 1st class (DEN-ORD-IAD) and called it a day.

This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

And, yes, these 777 flights are followed closely by an additional flight on the same route by five minutes or so...usually a 737 or an A320/19.

that is my kind of way do do things!

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 11:00 am

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 7):
Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin. I always try to fly them every time I go out.

Interesting, I've only been on one of these flights once, and it was 2 class (and full). But the truly sad part was that, as someone who is not elite, this was one of the extremely few times I have gotten upgraded. Missed out!  banghead 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 4:58 pm

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well.

Does it mean that UA flies you to your destination on a later flight AND gives you a free ticket for another round trip? That would be awedome...

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 5:03 pm

My free ticket advice: fly to Florida over spring break. In late March I picked up one free ticket on US, returning to DEN from a connection in CLT, and, had my schedule been even more flexible, I could have picked up two more free tickets, just on that one roundtrip!

On the outbound DEN to CLT flight, they were asking for volunteers, but I couldn't do it. I picked up the free ticket on the way back to DEN, but, while boarding the later flight I had been moved to (layover was 5 hours; it was too long), they asked for volunteers yet again. They were so booked (it was
Saturday) that they were going to put you up in a hotel and give you a first class seat on Monday. There was no way I could do that, so I had to settle for just my one free ticket.

Looks like I'll have to start flying UA 777s to ORD and checking out bumptracker.com....
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 6:44 pm

Why do they leave it right until you're sitting on the plane to ask for volunteers? I was always under the impression that the "bargaining" took place at the check-in desks...?
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 5):
I made it on as a BP5C

What is that designation?
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:04 pm

IIRC, some airlines treat vouchers for being bumped the same way they treat seats given in exchange for miles...that is..availability is limited. But between
paying, and flying for free...the choice is obvious...
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:05 pm

This has also happened to me a few times.

However, most of the time, they're not able to re-route me, and I can't take the bump.  Sad

I've been moved from E+ to C quite a few times.

I definately try to go out of my way to hit up this route when I'm flying trans-con.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:07 pm

1. Flights are probablyy over sold because its a Widebody.... Not too many domestic widebody flights around...mostly BARBIE JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:11 pm

Kinda reminds me to the one time LH overbooked the AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC-TXL flight. Me and my friend were about to start a 4-day trip to Berlin for sightseeing and we paid like EUR 250 for the flight AND hotel. The reason I tell you is, that that they asked for volunteers to take the later flight to TXL, reward was EUR 350 per person. Go figure

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 10:54 pm

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 8):
If you have a mean streak: Delta Fort Lauderdale to Atlanta late Friday nights.
That flight has bought me many years of Crown Room Membership.

How did you get Crown Room Membership out of it?
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 11:02 pm

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 13):
Does it mean that UA flies you to your destination on a later flight AND gives you a free ticket for another round trip? That would be awedome...

Of course they do. It is called compensation. All airlines do it and airlines in the EU have to give even more at times.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
1. Flights are probablyy over sold because its a Widebody.... Not too many domestic widebody flights around...mostly BARBIE JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem to have missed that most of the world doesn't use A.net. I have heard someone on a 757, after the F/A said the aircraft was a 757 say "I wonder why United has all these Airbuses?" People don't buy their tickets because the flight is on a widebody, nor do flights oversell because they are on a widebody.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

What are you talking about? Airlines have had the same policies for years about compensation and have turned multi-billion Dollar yearly profits.

Quoting SuseJ772 (Reply 21):
How did you get Crown Room Membership out of it?

Probably because they got so much compensation that it paid for it.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sat May 06, 2006 11:31 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

What are you talking about? Airlines have had the same policies for years about compensation and have turned multi-billion Dollar yearly profits.

Not only that but statistically, only a fraction of BTT's even get used. I wish I knew the figure but its something like 40%.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 12:13 am

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 12:53 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 24):
Gosh- and you wonder why the American aviation business is in ruin

This doesn't happen at BA or VS?
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 12:56 am

"My free ticket secret"
I'm sure there are those types of people who deliberatley go out there to decieve companies (airlines included). I don't. So I couldn't really answer your question regarding BA and VS. I would like to think that people had higher moral integrity than that, however.

And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.

[Edited 2006-05-06 18:00:38]
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 1:36 am

I've had two similar incidents -

In Palma a few years back, i was due to fly on the first of 5 FCA flights between PMI and LGW in about a 3 hour period. Our flight was overbooked so we volunteered and they simply put us on a flight 2 hours later and gave us £100 compensation - as it turns out, our original aircraft had a tech problem and only departed 10 minutes before us.

Also in LAX last year, we reserved seats in World Traveller Plus (BA) but when we came to check in online, the only seats available were 4 seats split up. We got to the airport and about an hour before the flight they called us back to check in and offered us a free upgrade to Club World.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):
And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.

You should check out FlyerTalk
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 17):
IIRC, some airlines treat vouchers for being bumped the same way they treat seats given in exchange for miles...that is..availability is limited. But between
paying, and flying for free...the choice is obvious...

This is where bargaining comes in. I never accept free tickets from UA. Rather, I ask for vouchers. When UA gives dollar amount vouchers, you can use them toward any UA flight in any class of service and earn miles. HTe free tickets are restricted, non-upgradable, and don't earn miles.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 2:33 am

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 13):
Does it mean that UA flies you to your destination on a later flight AND gives you a free ticket for another round trip?

Correct.

Quoting BN747DFWHNL (Reply 14):
Looks like I'll have to start flying UA 777s to ORD and checking out bumptracker.com....

I'm not familiar with tht site, but it seems this idea of mine would fit in perfectly there.

Quoting Vasu (Reply 15):
Why do they leave it right until you're sitting on the plane to ask for volunteers? I was always under the impression that the "bargaining" took place at the check-in desks...?

You are correct...they usually do this before everyone is seated (from my experiences)...this was only the second time I gave up my seat while on the T7.

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 18):
However, most of the time, they're not able to re-route me, and I can't take the bump.

Understood. On this particular trip, they at first tried to route me to BWI...but I told them no way (I was staying at the Dulles Hilton!)...they agreed and found other routing for me to get to Dulles, gave me my free RT ticket, put me in 1st Class all the way out there, then thanked me for giving up my seat...they were very professional about it...I thanked them anyhow and told them I was happy to help somebody else...I also told them they handled the overbooking situation very well (it wasn't the gate agents' fault they overbooked the flight). So in the end, both sides were happy.

Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):
"My free ticket secret"
I'm sure there are those types of people who deliberatley go out there to decieve companies (airlines included). I don't. So I couldn't really answer your question regarding BA and VS. I would like to think that people had higher moral integrity than that, however.

And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.

I figured to expect some one like you to rain on my parade...

First of all, let me tell you...you sound like a victim. You just need to open your eyes a bit here. I gave up my seat so that the airline could help out someone else who was in a desperate situation to get on that flight...hence the "asking for volunteers" and "thanking me" for my seat. Airlines do this all the time.

"My secret" was just a headliner...I did not know (or care) if that catchy language offends you or not, and if it does...you are way too sensitive. If you took your slant about this thread and spread it throughout this website, you'd be complaining about over half of what people post here.

So, in the future, just think of what you are saying. Next time I give up my seat, I hope it is YOU who I give it up for, so that you can see the reasoning behind my moral "integrity."

Do you think UA does not know about these packed T7 situations??? C'mon, open your eyes!

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 29):
This is where bargaining comes in. I never accept free tickets from UA. Rather, I ask for vouchers. When UA gives dollar amount vouchers, you can use them toward any UA flight in any class of service and earn miles. HTe free tickets are restricted, non-upgradable, and don't earn miles.

Zrs70, right on! Although Raffik would deem you as more evil and immoral than me. Wink
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting DIA (Reply 30):
First of all, let me tell you...you sound like a victim. You just need to open your eyes a bit here. I gave up my seat so that the airline could help out someone else who was in a desperate situation to get on that flight...hence the "asking for volunteers" and "thanking me" for my seat. Airlines do this all the time.

Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth. I'm like 'how is this 'deceiving the airline'?  confused 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Sun May 07, 2006 7:12 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):

And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.

He was helping the airline - if nobody had volunteered, they would have had to give some unlucky passengers no choice but to sacrifice their seat (unless they planned on flying with people standing or attached to the wing with sticky tape  Wink), which would not go down well with the passengers. In affect, he was just volunteering and getting a reward for it from the airline.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):
I'm sure there are those types of people who deliberatley go out there to decieve companies (airlines included)

A little melodramatic there? You think that's deception? It's simply catching onto a pattern and taking advantage of it. You think the airline doesn't know what it's doing? It's not like he's found some loophole that the airline doesn't know about to shave money off his ticket or something. And, yes, for your info, EVERY major airline will overbook flights to the point of giving up money for people to take other flights. Hardly deceiving!

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 4:09 am

I am sorry if I came across as being harsh and "melodramatic" (!)

Well, good for you. There aren't many free lunches in this world, and you are lucky to have benefitted from the airline's overbooking. I shall try it on my next DEN-ORD flight, and see if it works.

Once again, sorry for raining on your parade- it just sounded a little dishonest when I read it, that's all.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 5:26 am

Why would any airline opverbook by such a large amount-if ther eis so much demand for the flight why not simply raise prices or have fewer cheap seats available?
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 32):
He was helping the airline - if nobody had volunteered, they would have had to give some unlucky passengers no choice but to sacrifice their seat (unless they planned on flying with people standing or attached to the wing with sticky tape ), which would not go down well with the passengers. In affect, he was just volunteering and getting a reward for it from the airline.

Sure - you can find a way to justify just about anything if you try hard enough.  Wink

Is it "help" to UA? Yes, to a point - but obviously boasting online "Hey! Here's how to score a free ticket!" is clearly not an altruistic post either. He's not out there as a helper to UA - he's out there to score a free ticket based on their own stupidity.

So yes, those of you who are saying he's helping UA can continue to pat yourselves on the back and feel all warm and benevolent, but at the end of the day you can't dispute the fact that the basis of this post was clearly one of, "Here's how to get over on UA and hook yourselves up with free travel," not "Hey, let's all help poor UA out!"

It would be totally dishonest to suggest otherwise.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 6:26 am

Every time I fly out of DEN to ORD, I always notice these flights very full. I usually fly non-rev so I can not take advantage of the offer. When I was in ORD flying to FAR, our CRJ was overbooked and they asked for anyone willing to give up their seat for a stay in the ORD Hilton, a free round trip ticket, and a seat on the flight the next morning. I was pissed when someone else beat me to the agent by mere seconds.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Mon May 08, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 28):
Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):
And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.

You should check out FlyerTalk

For the most part the folks there are great - but there ARE people there who are only interested in screwing the airline of their choice.
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Tue May 16, 2006 6:39 am

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 17):
IIRC, some airlines treat vouchers for being bumped the same way they treat seats given in exchange for miles...that is..availability is limited. But between
paying, and flying for free...the choice is obvious...

Not my experience on AA.

Quoting Raffik (Reply 26):
"My free ticket secret"
I'm sure there are those types of people who deliberatley go out there to decieve companies (airlines included). I don't. So I couldn't really answer your question regarding BA and VS. I would like to think that people had higher moral integrity than that, however.

And, I find boasting about it on a website abit irresponsible.



Quoting Raffik (Reply 34):
I am sorry if I came across as being harsh and "melodramatic" (!)

Well, good for you. There aren't many free lunches in this world, and you are lucky to have benefitted from the airline's overbooking. I shall try it on my next DEN-ORD flight, and see if it works.

Once again, sorry for raining on your parade- it just sounded a little dishonest when I read it, that's all.



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 36):
Is it "help" to UA? Yes, to a point - but obviously boasting online "Hey! Here's how to score a free ticket!" is clearly not an altruistic post either. He's not out there as a helper to UA - he's out there to score a free ticket based on their own stupidity.

I will ignore the accusation of being dishonest or even immoral, although raffik did apologize.

Perhaps, I can put it in better perspective.

1) I book my flight, pay for my flight, and secure a seat.
2) I show up at my departure airport on time and with all my documents.
3) I arrive at the gate.
4) Airline announces that, basically, their estimates were mistaken, all the pax showed up and the aircraft is unable to grow more seats.
5) They ask if anyone is willing to be inconvenienced (they call it "flexible travel plans") for a fee, payable in airline vouchers.
6) I accept their offer and proceed with my happy, undramatic life.
7) As luck would have it, the scenario repeats itself multiple times.

Where, can anyone point it out, does it say that this is something that one should not take advantage of?
The real "problem" is the airlines, that overbook and the passengers that book flights and often don't show up. That is the root of this problem. This only happens on flights that are very oversold and it rewards those who book early and secure seats. Those who booked at the last minute, and the airline that took the booking, are definitely being "helped" by people who take the voucher.

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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Tue May 16, 2006 8:58 am

Why take the free ticket, which is limited to capacity controls (similiar to frequent flier miles) and does not earn mileage. Ask the gate agent if you can receive dollar off vouchers in place, usually $400 is what they will come up with. This makes selecting a flight to use this reward on more flexible, and you earn miles as well. The agent has the option to offer the dollar off option, as not all people will be able to use a free domestic ticket, which may even exlcude Hawaii.
 
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RE: My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s

Tue May 16, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

There is a 744 returning on some dates this summer DEN-ORD...

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