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Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 7:45 pm

Following Radio Europe 1,this afternoon will be a press-conference with MOL regarding the launch of a new Rynair -base in MRS.
This would also be the first official base in France.

http://www.tourmag.com/Marseille-Pro...France-pour-Ryanair-_a13108.htmlse
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:04 pm

Currently MRS is only linked to DUB and PIK... I would expect at least 6 or 7 new routes to make it a base! However, I thought Carcassonne would have been first.

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 pm

What about Paris Beavais i thought that was a Base?
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 pm

That's excellent news! Let them link EIN with MRS immediately, that will save me a lot of hassle and money. Perfect! ( If it happens..)

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 2):
What about Paris Beavais i thought that was a Base?

Nope, BVA is a focus city  Wink
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:31 pm

My guess... still if the info is correct (link not working):

SNN
HHN
CIA
STN
EIN
RAK

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:49 pm

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Wed May 10, 2006 8:49 pm

Is there any reason why Ryanair or easyJet don't fly STN-MRS yet? I would imagine it's a very likely route. And for Ryanair, usually routes are started from STN first before PIK.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:52 pm

Easyjet did fly to Gatwick and Paris CDG.

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:56 pm

Expect a lot more flying from MRS to Morocco in the short- and to Tunisia and Algeria in the long term (once there should be an open skies agreement with these two countries). What other LCC will jump on the ethnic travel bandwaggon?
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:58 pm

The focus in the South of France ( exception Nice and Carcassonne..) are the mediterrannean regions.
Historically people here feel less "gaulois " but rather latin and that reflects in the relation of families,travel and business.
North Africa is by far the most important travel destination from Marseille,and even in other smaller cities in the south of France people tend to make vaccation in Morocco,Tunisia or Antilles rather than in Turkey,Bahamas or Mallorca.
Fact is that many French don't speak any foreign language and spending time in Marrakech is easy and convneient for them for many reasons.
Languedoc has a large spanish population which would use MRS for cheap flights to Spain.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 8:58 pm

The article states following points:

- Important announcement regarding the low-cost developement in France
- FR has been looking to MRS as a base already since Jan 2006
- During Sept 2006, the new low cost terminal in MRS will be ready
- A FR expantion could bring 50 daily rotations in MRS
- A destination in Africa (Marocco) is very likely to be served

Hope I got all the important points.

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 9:03 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 1):
Currently MRS is only linked to DUB and PIK... I would expect at least 6 or 7 new routes to make it a base!

Yes,today MRS is only linked to DUB and PIK! But The works to build a new low cost terminal are currently in progress.
Ryanair expects to operate 50 daily flights per day after the opening of this terminal in September 2006.

The low cost market grows slowly in MRS:
Bristol by Easyjet from July 2006
Brussels by Virgin Express (operated by SNBA)
Cologne by HLX.COM
Dublin by Ryanair and Aer Lingus
Glasgow by Ryanair
Liverpool by Easyjet
London Gatwick by Easyjet
Marrakech by Atlas blue
Munich by Condor
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 9:10 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 7):
Is there any reason why Ryanair or easyJet don't fly STN-MRS yet?

Don't remenber exactly but I guess Stansted has been the first low cost destination from MRS.The route was operated by Buzz a few years ago and stopped when Buzz merged into Ryanair.
Buzz also operated the Brest-MRS-Brest route.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 9:11 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 7):
Is there any reason why Ryanair or easyJet don't fly STN-MRS yet? I would imagine it's a very likely route. And for Ryanair, usually routes are started from STN first before PIK.

Ryanair stopped STN-MRS after they took over Buzz.

Both Ryannair and Easyjet are expanding in Marseilles and that's great news for the airport! They definitly have some potential on the North Africa netwok but I am a bit concerned about security with Ryannair... We'll have to wait of course that the routes open first!
I didn't know the new terminal would be fitted with an International (ie: NOT European) Customs Area.
I also hope they link Scandinavia with Marseilles, apart from Coppenhaggen there is no flight going to this area!

Finally a great news for spotting there!

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 9:29 pm

Good news for Marseille!

...but how long to go until Air France will sue Marseille airport (like they did it with Basel-Mulhouse)?

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Wed May 10, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 15):
...but how long to go until Air France will sue Marseille airport (like they did it with Basel-Mulhouse)?

What for?  Confused
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Wed May 10, 2006 9:50 pm

Basel-Mulhouse airport (which is a public French institution) has made a tariff system that benefits new airlines opening new routes and transporting high volumes. This should be an incentive for low cost carriers to operate into the airport.
This does NOT include direct payments made by the airport. The thing is that you can chose between an old (and less comfortable) terminal, which is cheaper, and the new terminal (more comfortable) but which is a bit more expensive. Also you get a reduced tariff on passenger fees the more passengers an airline brings to the airport.

From this tariff ALL the airlines can benefit. In fact Air France already benefits from it since they are number two after easyJet at the airport in terms of passengers transported. Further, Air France does not pay a single Euro in landing taxes (for the first year, and a reduced tariff in the second year) for the recently started new routes from Basel-Mulhouse to Toulouse and Bordeaux.

BUT, Air France sued the airport for discrimination. The provincial court in Strasbourg decided that it is discrimination so the airport does need to make a new tariff system. This is simply silly because it is no discrimination! Also it is in direct contradiction to European law (which in case "Charleroi" made a clear decision that supports the tariff system of Basel-Mulhouse airport). So most likely we will see another case but sure the European commission will decide in favour of Basel-Mulhouse in the end.

Now since I know Ryanair, they do not only get a good tariff system, they will most likely get direct payment from the airport organisation in Marseille. A court case will follow I am sure. Air France does not accept any competition and gets backed by most of the governmental institutions in France (slot coordination, judges etc.).

But thankfully there is the European commission in the end which will decide in favour of the consumer, in favour of more competition and in favour of the future of air travel (LCCs).

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 10:17 pm

MRS----CIA----MRS
0625-0750/0815-0940 Daily

MRS----STN----MRS
1430-1535/1600-1905 Daily

MRS----FKB----MRS
1005-1130/1155-1330 -2-4-6-

MRS----CRL----MRS
1200-1345/1410-1555 -2-4-6-

MRS----EIN----MRS
1930-2120/2145-2335 Daily

MRS----HHN----MRS
1005-1140/1205-1340 1-3-5-7

MRS----OPO----MRS
1830-1950/2015-2330 1-3-5-7

MRS----TRF----MRS
1645-1945/2010-2310 -2-4-6-

MRS----FEZ----MRS
0630-0755/0820-1135 -2-4-6-

MRS----RAK----MRS
0620-0810/0835-1235 1-3-5-7
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 10:25 pm

So how many aircraft to be based there? 2?

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 10:26 pm

KL911, it seems that you have your lucky day  Smile

Intersting that they will operate a CIA flight. I thought that CIA had been locked and no further flights could be added. Is this instead of the Alghero route?
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting Airblue (Reply 18):

... and Oujda (Morocco, OUD)
1-3-5-7
MRS-OUD 13:20-14:30
OUD-MRS 14:55-18:05

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Wed May 10, 2006 11:58 pm

With Fez,Marrakech and Oujda Ryanair will become a major player in the Moroccan aviation scene...
There will be much,much more passengers flying to and from maghreb countries once the tarif system has been liberalized.
AF and RAM will defenitely feel the heat but the countries involved ( I assume Tunisia will follow soon..) will feel the benefit from an increasing number of vistors.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 12:17 am

Interesting data and timetables of Morocco's airports can be found surfing www.onda.ma (only in french). In my opinion it's a good webpage, offering a lot of information!

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Rom1 (Reply 14):
I also hope they link Scandinavia with Marseilles

Looks like Oslo (Torp) is going to be linked with the suny south of France. Good news for Marseille and also for north africa. I wonder when/if FR will launch UK-Morocco flights? Anyway, great to see expansion making our continent better connected.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 12:39 am

Easyjet will start
4 July 2006 London Gatwick to Marrakech

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Thu May 11, 2006 1:47 am

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=06&month=may&story=rte-en-100506

RYANAIR SELECTS MARSEILLE AS ITS 16th EUROPEAN BASE
13 NEW ROUTES FROM NOVEMBER ‘06

Ryanair, Europe’s No. 1 airline today (10th May) announced that it has selected Marseille as its 16th European base. Ryanair will invest over $120M in 2 new aircraft that from November will serve 13 routes and deliver almost 1M passengers per annum. From November, Ryanair will connect Marseille to Brussels, Dublin, Eindhoven, Fez, Frankfurt, Glasgow, Karlsruhe Baden, London, Marrakech, Oujda, Oslo, Porto and Rome.

Michael O’Leary, Ryanair’s CEO today in Marseille said:

“Ryanair’s first base in France marks a major breakthrough for French passengers/visitors who will no longer suffer Air France’s high fares. This base will revolutionise travel to/from the Provence region. It would not have been possible without Marseille Provence airport who have developed a low cost terminal that has won them this base despite intense competition from 5 other low cost European airports.

“Now Marseille airport which has suffered a passenger decline from 6.5M in 2000 to 5.8M in 2006 will achieve record growth in 06/07 thanks to this new low cost partnership with Ryanair.

“Ryanair’s low fare routes are good news for business and tourism in Provence. Marseille airport will become the low fare airport for the South of France as Ryanair delivers almost 1M passengers p.a. This traffic will sustain 1,000 jobs whilst allowing passengers in the region to enjoy low fare flights and end the high fare monopoly of Air France.

“Seats on these new routes are available for immediate booking on www.ryanair.com from just €1* and we urge all passengers to book straight away as demand for fares this low will be huge.”

From Marseille to: Fare*
BRUSSELS € 1
EINDHOVEN € 1
KARLSRUHE BADEN € 1
FRANKFURT € 1
LONDON STANSTED € 1
ROME € 1
DUBLIN € 5
GLASGOW € 5
PORTO € 5
FEZ (Morocco) € 10
MARRAKECH (Morocco) € 10
OUJDA (Morocco) € 10
OSLO € 10

* Fares quoted exclude taxes, fees and charges


Editors note: Ryanair’s routes from Marseille to Glasgow and Dublin are currently in operation. The other routes listed will start 8th November.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 7:28 pm

I had a closer look at the schedule and it seems that at some instances it has a pretty high on-ground time at MRS, does anybody know why?

Aircraft 1:

MRS----CIA----MRS
0625-0750/0815-0940 Daily 1:25

--25 min on ground

MRS----FKB----MRS
1005-1130/1155-1330 -2-4-6- 1:25
MRS----HHN----MRS
1005-1140/1205-1340 1-3-5-7 1:35

--50-60 min on ground (long!)

MRS----STN----MRS
1430-1535/1600-1905 Daily 2:05

-- 25 min

MRS----EIN----MRS
1930-2120/2145-2335 Daily 1:50/1:50

It seems that the aircraft has a long turnaround at MRS. Why? It seems to me, that when they would keep that one on 25 minutes too, they could make the EIN flight earlier, and this might be favourable for people traveling EIN-MRS - they won't arrive that late. Is it because of slot issues at STN?


Then the 2nd aircraft days 2-4-6

MRS----FEZ----MRS
0630-0755/0820-1135 -2-4-6- 2:25
-- 25 min
MRS----CRL----MRS
1200-1345/1410-1555 -2-4-6- 1:45
-- 50 min
MRS----TRF----MRS
1645-1945/2010-2310 -2-4-6- 3:00

Again, a long one.

And, 2nd aircraft, days 1-3-5-7

MRS----RAK----MRS
0620-0810/0835-1235 1-3-5-7 2:50
--45 min (fairly long)
MRS----OUD----MRS 2:10
1320-1430/1455-1805 1-3-5-7
-- 25 min
MRS----OPO----MRS 2:20
1830-1950/2015-2330 1-3-5-7

Again, a fairly long turnaround. Can it also be a crew change, that they need a little bit more time when a new crew will occupy the aircraft for the rest of the day? How many hours / legs do pilots and cabin crew fly on FR?
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 7:42 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 10):
Languedoc has a large spanish population which would use MRS for cheap flights to Spain.

MRS is far from being in Languedoc!!!
Large spanish population in Languedoc should preferably use Carcassonne!!!
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 9:15 pm

Icarus75 - I recognise that Languedoc stretches from Narbonne to Beaucaire- but there is still a large untapped potential for cheap flights from Nîmes-MPL area to various Spanish cities.In its infinite wisdom Mr. Fréche has done everythingto kill the Montpellier airport and donate it's business to Air France.
There is a relatively large community of andalusian and torro-business related travel between the Languedoc and particularly Sevillle ( the ideal flight would be Nîmes or MPL to Sevilla..)
It is true nobody from Montpellier would drive to Marseille for a flight to Barcelona- but for flights to southern Spain it would make sense.
The parking in MRS is quite well staffed with -34- and -30- licence plates.
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Thu May 11, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 27):
I had a closer look at the schedule and it seems that at some instances it has a pretty high on-ground time at MRS, does anybody know why?

That is often the case at their bases. For example, at Stansted and Dublin, a lot of aircraft will spend 1hr+ on the ground, where as others will spend just 20-25mins.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 9:53 pm

Oh yes !!!!!!! They did it. The new low cost terminal seems to be a good investment. The new terminal will have 6 gates and 3.5 million PAX capacity, that's nenough to add much more flights and EZY will probably expand in MRS too.

An old but interesting link about the new terminal

I'm a bit surprised to see Oslo on that list, I was expecting flights to NYO (Stockholm) or Bergamo. If the loads factors are good they will probably base a few more aircrafts in MRS.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 26):
RYANAIR SELECTS MARSEILLE AS ITS 16th EUROPEAN BASE
13 NEW ROUTES FROM NOVEMBER '06

Well, i don't consider DUB-MRS and PIK-MRS as new routes, were already announced a long time ago ... That's 11 new routes, not 13. Good joke Ryanair ...

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 28):
Large Spanish population in Languedoc should preferably use Carcassonne!!!

Well, i think they should fly from MPL, a larger market and a dynamic city. With is an almost empty airport since the bankruptcy of Air Littoral.


I've got a question for you guys, isn't Air Berlin flying to Tunisia (Djerba and Monastir) ? Is there a special agreement between Tunisia and Germany ? I don't think, so why no flights to Tunisia ? As we said before there's a huge market from MRS to Tunisia.

Beaucaire, George Frèche had dreams of "grandeur" for the city of Montpellier, I don't see him killing the airport, teh problem came from the bankruptcy or Air Littoral and the competition with Nîmes (FNI). But if you have more info about it i'd be pretty interested.

[Edited 2006-05-11 14:59:06]
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 10:07 pm

In today's edition of "La Provence" MOL is quoted indicating that MRS will see about 5 planes within three years. That would mean roughly 3 Million Passengers alone on Ryanair flights.
I agree on the fact that MPL would deserve more flights into southern and northern hemispheres but Fréche seems to be determined to doom the airport for whatever reason.TUN would be an ideal next logical step for any Low-Cost ex MRS,TLN or MPL- but the open-sky agreement seems not yet approved by the tunisian legislators.
Biggest market would be Algeria but the absence of simplified visa-rules are a stepping-stone to this huge market.
Yes-Air Berlin are flying into North Africa but have -in their focus on Spain- forgotten about France - a fact that I consider a major strategic mistake.
They should have opened a base in MRS or NCE and deal with ethnic traffic rather than leave the market to Easyjet and Ryanair. FlyBe seem more open to develop France and I wonder where their french HUB will be based.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Thu May 11, 2006 11:38 pm

Me thinks MP2 and MRS airport have some geography problems:
http://www.mp2.aeroport.fr/destinati...cost_aeroport_mp2.htm?destination7

"Le Brandebourg et Francfort
A la frontière polonaise, Francfort est la troisième ville du Land de Brandebourg. Francfort sur le Main, ville de foire et financière dynamique et internationale"

So since when is Frankfurt in Brandenburg or near Poland?

Also Dublin has been put where Cork really is.
 
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Thu May 11, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting Joost (Reply 20):
KL911, it seems that you have your lucky day

Intersting that they will operate a CIA flight. I thought that CIA had been locked and no further flights could be added. Is this instead of the Alghero route?

Joost,

It IS my lucky day, haha. Booked immediately 10-12 November although not for the cheapest 0.01 euro fare that you will find later on. Just had to do it now..

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Fri May 12, 2006 12:26 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 32):
They should have opened a base in MRS or NCE and deal with ethnic traffic rather than leave the market to Easyjet and Ryanair. FlyBe seem more open to develop France and I wonder where their french HUB will be based.

I hope FlyBe will do. I don't see them based in NCE because of EZY and in MRS because of FR, but may be TLS, BOD (very few low cost flights for such a large city) or LYS (but i think taxes are too high there). They could also choose a smaller airport operating with the Q400s. (Nantes, Lille, Strasbourg)

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 33):
So since when is Frankfurt in Brandenburg or near Poland?

Since Marseille is the capital of Pastis ...
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting YULMRS (Reply 35):
or LYS (but i think taxes are too high there).

Higher then MRS?

I was a little surprise to see FR opening a base in MRS, an airport quite big.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 7:15 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 32):
Biggest market would be Algeria but the absence of simplified visa-rules are a stepping-stone to this huge market.

Is this an issue for Algerian people living in France? Do they have Algerian passports? (can one have 2 passports when living in France?) When it is about tourism, is the Algerian government interested in stimulating tourism at all? They don't really seem to want to become a tourist destination like Tunesia and Morocco.

Quoting YULMRS (Reply 31):
I've got a question for you guys, isn't Air Berlin flying to Tunisia (Djerba and Monastir) ? Is there a special agreement between Tunisia and Germany ?

They only fly from Germany to Tunesia. It might well be a very normal bilateral agreement where Air Berlin is a German designated carrier on selected routes from Germany to Tunesia. No open skies doesn't mean no LCC-likes per definition.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 32):
Yes-Air Berlin are flying into North Africa but have -in their focus on Spain- forgotten about France - a fact that I consider a major strategic mistake.
They should have opened a base in MRS or NCE and deal with ethnic traffic rather than leave the market to Easyjet and Ryanair. FlyBe seem more open to develop France and I wonder where their french HUB will be based.

I would not draw that quick a conclusion like that  Smile

First, I thought it was you telling a lot about the political difficulties of operating airline services from France. We saw LH and Buzz trying French domestic routes and withdrawing quickly. We see easyJet struggling. I can understand a decision from them not to jump on that bandwagen.

Second, Air Berlin has a basis as a vacation/sun&beach-carrier, that is their competitive edge. They are expanding it successfully to the business travelers segment, but they don't really operate in the VFR segment of Ryanair. It could as well be a strategic mistake to try to be all sorts of carriers at the same time. It requires different strategies; for example that secondary airports are a way better option for the VFR segement than for the business segment.

Third, until the open skies was signed, and that's only recently, they couldn't even operate flights from France to northern Africa.

And fourth: Ryanair only announced it's service yesterday, starting operations from an airport they only serve with 2 flights yet, and suddenly expanding. Who knows what surprises Air Berlin will bring us?
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 8:08 am

In this thread we talk a lot about service from France to northern Africa, but i think we forgot to talk about Aigle Azur, they offer cheap services from Marseille to 5 Algerian cities (Bejaia, Annaba, Constantine, Tlemcen and Oran). They have a fleet of 9 A32X series aircrafts, FR would probably have trouble competing with them. They also opened an agency in the center of Marseille rencently.

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 36):
Higher then MRS?

I'm not sure that the taxes are higher, but i'm sure that the costs are higher with the new terminal in MRS. Many low cost operators serve MRS but don't fly to LYS (FR, HLX, Virgin Express ...)

Quoting Joost (Reply 37):
And fourth: Ryanair only announced it's service yesterday, starting operations from an airport they only serve with 2 flights yet, andrnsuddenly expanding. Who knows what surprises Air Berlin will bring us?

I agree with you on that point, the same applies to EZY and HLX for flights to MRS. Thank's for you answer to my question  Smile
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 5:21 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 15):
Good news for Marseille!

...but how long to go until Air France will sue Marseille airport (like they did it with Basel-Mulhouse)?

Regards,
RJ100

You're confused. It was over Strasbourg Airport that Air France took legal action against the Alsace region authorities for giving Ryanair large sums of money to start flying in the area and improve tourism. Air France won the battle and Ryanair was made to repay the cash and pull out of Strasbourg (SXB).

Which is why the latest legal battle from Ryanair against AF-KLM sounds so much like a revenge affair!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4763533.stm

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 5:32 pm

Quoting AlanUK (Reply 39):

RJ100 is referring in his post about INDIRECT benefits LCC can be given by airports. Taking the example of BSL, he explained how landing/handling/parking costs decrease if you bring a higher number of pax into the airport.

The example you took about FR and SXB is a DIRECT monetary funding from the airport to the airline mentioned.

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 6:07 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 40):
Regards,
HBDAN

Oh I see... Understood!  Smile
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 6:54 pm

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 33):
So since when is Frankfurt in Brandenburg or near Poland?

Me thinks they confused Frankfurt am Main with Frankfurt an der Oder, which is indeed in Brandenburg and next to the Polish border  Smile I've sent them an e-mail pointing out the mistake.

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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 6:58 pm

Quoting YULMRS (Reply 35):
I hope FlyBe will do. I don't see them based in NCE because of EZY

EZY don't have a base at NCE. Yes they operate very regularly into NCE, but no aircraft or crew are based there.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 7:15 pm

I've always relied on Europe1 and RTL news  Wink

The open-sky agreement between France and Tunisia is still in talks, and i think that both Tunisair and Air France are behind this delay in finding a logical and efficient compromise; both airlines want to enjoy a certain privilége and historical hierarchy !!! Aigle Azur has an ambitious programm in Tunisia but is still waiting for an official approval. Nouvelair now flies daily to CDG but has no competitive prices !!! A low-cost service from southern France to Tunisia is a success for sure !!!
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Fri May 12, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 44):
The open-sky agreement between France and Tunisia is still in talks,

When it's France and Tunesia, we won't see Ryanair on the route yet, as it will likely be an open skies agreement for Tunesian and French carriers. So great for Aigle Azur, but no Ryanair.
 
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Sat May 13, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 26):
�Ryanair�s low fare routes are good news for business and tourism in Provence. Marseille airport will become the low fare airport for the South of France as Ryanair delivers almost 1M passengers p.a. This traffic will sustain 1,000 jobs whilst allowing passengers in the region to enjoy low fare flights and end the high fare monopoly of Air France.

FR claims that the new lines will create 1000 jobs in the Marseilles area, but, 3 questions, how do they calculate that figure ? And how many job will FR create directly in MRS ? Is it normal to create an average 1000 jobs in the served area per million PAX ? Thanks for your help  Wink

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 43):
EZY don't have a base at NCE. Yes they operate very regularly into NCE, but no aircraft or crew are based there.

Your right, i just meant EZY has so many flights to NCE that i don't see a big market for FlyBe there.
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RE: Ryanair To Announce New Base In Marseille....

Sat May 13, 2006 7:07 pm

I think that TLN is better as it is half way between Marseille and St-Tropez. Ryanair is already flying into Montpellier, i think, and the airport of Nimes is also good positioned, geographically. Southern France is "full" of airports that could serve as bases for LCCs.

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