dkny
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Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Wed May 10, 2006 9:01 pm

Looks like ET is still trying to set up it's hub in accra.

"The long awaited partnership and Ethiopian Airlines Hub and Ghana International Airlines (GIA) Limited, has been delayed for another six months.

Tewolde G. Mariam, Executive Officer of Marketing and Sales told Capital that the partnership, which was due to be finalized in April, has been delayed due to management reshuffling at GIA.

Ethiopian Airlines and GIA had agreed in 2005 for Ethiopian to set up its West Africa Hub at Accra, in a partnership that would see the two carriers working together in terms of management and technical support. "

http://www.capitalethiopia.com/archi...elebrates%2060th%20anniversary.htm
 
Ethiopian787
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Wed May 10, 2006 10:39 pm

Selam Dkny!

Isn't ET already a shareholder in GIA? So what is the partnership thing? Can anyone from Ghana shade light on this?

Cheers!
"We 'invented' the hostesses 3000 years before they invented the Boeings"
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Thu May 11, 2006 4:49 pm

Selam folks,
If I were to deal with GIA now, based on what we read in the media (unfortunately, I do not have any other source), I would not even touch it with an electric pole, let alone buy into it or have any sort of agreement with it. So much has been said and the level of drama is worthy of an Oscar award.
 
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yowza
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Thu May 11, 2006 4:54 pm

My prediction:

There will be no codeshare, there will never be a true ET hub in ACC and G0 will likely will fold in under the cloud of corporate corruption/theft and missed fuel/lease/landing fees.

Am I being too cynical?

YOWza
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Thu May 11, 2006 8:59 pm

well the LONG specualted ADD-ACC-usa might be coming soon.
According to a article i read GIA will anounce its new destination withing weeks(on Ghanaweb.com).. Probably Dusseldorf then Jnb
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Fri May 12, 2006 1:32 am

I was at LGW the other day and was talking to a manager at Aviance, G0's handling agent and it seem there are a lot of cancellations and delays due to owed money to Fueling companies etc... how can they be in such a mess already?! I also heard that load factors are as low as 10pax per flight! come on G0 get it together you have a huge market!
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Fri May 12, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting Soups (Reply 4):
well the LONG specualted ADD-ACC-usa might be coming soon.

I may be mistaken, but I thought that was why ET leased the 744's. According to ATWonline, they are receiving those a/c this year.

WorldXplorer
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Fri May 12, 2006 2:02 am

Quoting 757ops (Reply 5):
a lot of cancellations and delays due to owed money to Fueling companies etc

www.accra-mail.com/mailnews.asp?id=16512
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 9:56 am

Quoting WorldXplorer (Reply 6):
I may be mistaken, but I thought that was why ET leased the 744's. According to ATWonline, they are receiving those a/c this year.

The 744's are mainly to increase capacity on the Dubai, Lagos and Luanda routes, and also to China on the PEK, CAN and HKG routes
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 10:13 am

Quoting 757ops (Reply 8):
The 744's are mainly to increase capacity on the Dubai, Lagos and Luanda routes, and also to China on the PEK, CAN and HKG routes

Does ET route ALL of their CAN and HKG flights via BKK? I almost flew ET BKK-HKG last year. Do you know how well ET does with their 5th freedom rights on these routes?

WolrdXplorer
 
AF022
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 11:52 am

When are the 744s coming to ET?
 
trevd
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 1:02 pm

I'll make a prediction here that the 744's are one more example of an announced move the ET does not follow through on.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 1:02 pm

Quoting AF022 (Reply 10):
When are the 744s coming to ET?

I see 744 on DXB and LOS routes as of June 4, per Sabre. I also see June 9 to Luanda (which appears to be sold out), and Brazzaville/Kinshasa as of June 14. Have not seen any pics however, and you can imagine what the anticipation is doing to me ...
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 4:09 pm

Quoting TrevD (Reply 11):
I'll make a prediction here that the 744's are one more example of an announced move the ET does not follow through on.

Can you please give me examples of announcements ET made and did not follow through. By the way ET has yet to announce they have leased 744's. It was announced here on A.NET by A.NET members.

Quoting ETStar (Reply 12):
I see 744 on DXB and LOS routes as of June 4, per Sabre. I also see June 9 to Luanda (which appears to be sold out), and Brazzaville/Kinshasa as of June 14. Have not seen any pics however, and you can imagine what the anticipation is doing to me ...

Selam ETStar.

I can't wait to see the 744 in ET colors here in ADD.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 4:59 pm

Quoting Dkny (Reply 13):

Can you please give me examples of announcements ET made and did not follow through. By the way ET has yet to announce they have leased 744's. It was announced here on A.NET by A.NET members.

True, unannounced by airline, but reported by Air Transport World on May 2nd as Girma Wake saying "The carrier also will wet-lease two Air Atlanta Icelandic 747-400s later this year for flights from Addis Ababa to the US and Asia" (http://atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=4922).

Looking up some of ET's flights, I already see the above noted flights as operated by a 747, although no sight of any to the US.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Sat May 13, 2006 5:17 pm

Quoting Dkny (Reply 13):
Can you please give me examples of announcements ET made and did not follow through. By the way ET has yet to announce they have leased 744's. It was announced here on A.NET by A.NET members.

There was a recent press release indicating new service to Juba. The press release has been taken off the ET website.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Mon May 22, 2006 3:47 pm

Quoting AF022 (Reply 15):
There was a recent press release indicating new service to Juba. The press release has been taken off the ET website.

Also off the scheds. Don't know whether put on hold or axed all together.
 
AF022
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Mon May 22, 2006 10:38 pm

ET seems to have completely changed their summer schedule. EBB-NBO daily? What is that all about? Can they really compete with KQ's multiple dailies?
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Tue May 23, 2006 12:23 am

An ET/GIA partnership is one of the better ideas for African air travel: It would provide great connections in both West and East Africa and reasonable connections to Southern Africa.

Short sightedness by the expected participants may end up killing a great idea. If they don't do it now, they may lose the lead and never have the opportunity to do so.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Tue May 23, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting AF022 (Reply 17):


ET seems to have completely changed their summer schedule. EBB-NBO daily? What is that all about? Can they really compete with KQ's multiple dailies?

ET as noted lately is on a very ambitious drive to expand its services, and doing the EBB-NBO run is yet another example of what it's up to. KQ definitely has a monopoly on the NBO-EBB/BJM/KGL routes, and it seems that ET is making good use of the idling aircraft to go after such opportunities.
 
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RE: Ethiopian & GIA Partnership Delayed

Tue May 23, 2006 4:25 am

Isn't the government of Ghana meddling in the operations of GIA? As in forcing out some of their officers?
If this is indeed the case, I am not surprised by this sad delay.

So much potential.....
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