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Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 6:57 am

Are there any payload restrictions on UA862 or other 744 services from Sydney to SFO or LAX. I flew on this flight a while ago and the plane was anything but full. The lady at check in however said that the flight is almost full. Thanks in advance.

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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 9:38 am

I believe that LAX-SYD (and return) is constantly weight-restricted, but I know for a fact that the weight restrictions on SFO-SYD go off an on, depending on the temps and winds aloft.

LAX-MEL is a constant, extreme w.r. flight.

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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 9:52 am

So, correct me if I'm wrong, if one wants to "spread out" on a transpacific flight, then one should fly LAX-MEL, since the flight would be weight-restricted and without the usual full complement of passengers?

Second question: Hard to believe from looking at the map, but is it true that SFO-SYD is a shorter distance than LAX-SYD?
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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 10:22 am

For the most comfortable flights, LAX-MEL is your choice.

It does seem hard to believe, but yes, SFO-SYD (vs LAX) is 70nm shorter thanks to the Great Circle flight path!

SFO (37°37'08"N 122°22'29"W)
SYD (33°34'S 151°06'E)
7405 mi
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W)
SYD (33°34'S 151°06'E)
7478 mi

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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 12:24 pm

There is other restriction loads from ORD-HKG on UAL 747-400. They mentioned no more than 300 pax (I can't remembered exactly number pax limit) because of loads and cargo with full fuel loads. It is a very long flight. I'm pretty sure some of restrictions in anywhere for long flights e.i. LHR-HKG, ATL-CPT, etc...

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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Wed Jun 14, 2000 12:47 pm

Flights are not weight restricted from SYD to LAX/SFO due to tail winds. The flight to the US is usually two hours less then from the US.

One time I had a 90 minute delay in SFO due to lack of headwinds and they cannot arrive into SYD before 6 am due to curfew.

Another time the heads winds were so bad and they could not get the plane light enough that we stopped in Guam for fuel.

Hope this helps...

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RE: Payload Restrictions/SYD-SFO

Thu Jun 15, 2000 4:36 am

Thanks for the great map, FLY777UAL! I guess the coast of (southern) California jags inward past Santa Barbara, so it makes it a bit easier to "see" how SFO might be closer to SYD than LAX.
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Sata In Oakland?

Thu Jun 15, 2000 4:49 am

Just got back from a 24-hr trip to Reno yesterday, and noticed (before the power went out at Oakland Airport), that a Tradewinds 767 was parked at Int'l gate at OAK. Since I couldn't look at the monitors (power out, right?), I decided to inspect the terminal. Wow! Was I ever surprised to see a huge line traversing the length of the ticket counters in Terminal 1! All the way from the Corsair/Martinair counter back to almost baggage carousel.
The ticket counter itself had a SATA sign slapped onto the ticket counter (and outside where the skycap works also). But they didn't have a destination on their board! I checked some luggage tags (surreptitiously, of course) and saw that they had "Acores Islands" upon them. Of course then it hit me that everyone was speaking Portuguese also. I didn't realize there were that many Azores Islander people in the Bay Area (the manner of their dress made me think they were from America). And what airline is SATA, anyway?

Sata @ OAK

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:44 am

SATA is SATA International (SATA Air Acores). Last tuesday they started flying to the Azore Islands in the Atlantic (off the coast of Portugal) for SunTrips. They flights operate via BOS. They were supposed to be operated by SATA's A310. The Tradewinds must have been substitution. I did not know Tradewinds had a B767. They operate A300F frieghters and L1011's on pax charters. How was the Tradewinds painted. Was it a -200 or -300? The SATA flight was supposed to have left at 4:30pm. I wonder if they had equipment problems.

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