L-1011Alpha
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Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 12:58 pm

Hello everyone...
Isn't the L-1011 great??!!!!
I think it is AWESOME     My favorite sheme on a L-1011 is from ATA..
just look at this beauty


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now I wanna hear your toughts and your comments on this beautiful aircraft..
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TransatGuy
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:16 pm

I think that it's a great a/c. I work for Air Transat, a charter in Canada and we operate 15 L10-150, and 5 L10-500, they are currently going to replace the -150's for -500. I see about 6 L-10's a day and I never get sick of them. I flew on one from YYZ-POP-YYZ, sat in jump for take off, and I'll never forget it. The ride was awesome. Our pilots expalined everthing that they were doing thruout the flight and made it enjoyable for us. Even tho I see these magnificent a/c's everyday, I can never get sick of them, I believe that they are one of the greatest a/c's ever built, and that they are true workhorses.

RGDS
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<b>Your Thoughts On L-1011</b>

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:28 pm

Nothing beats this:

and


Gundu
Long live the 3 HOLER!
 
copper1
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:28 pm

As I mentioned in another thread the other day the L1011 and DC-10 have got to be two of the greatest airliners of all time. They have a style and class all of their own when compared to anything from Washington State or Europe.

The sound of either of these two majestic planes cannot be matched. The smokey start of the L1011 and the whine of the 10 as it taxis are sights and sounds from the glory days of airliner design.

I have often thought of these two as a matching pair with the DC-10 being the King of airliners and the L1011 being the Queen. To me the DC-10 looks rough and masculine while the L-1011 has more graceful feminine lines to her.

Truely a magnificent pair and with any luck they will both be around for years to come hauling people or cargo.


Copper1
 
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:40 pm

I absolutely agree. Both the L10s and DC10s/MD11s are the most aesthetically pleasing widebodies to me. I just hate it that McDonnell Douglas screwed up the MD11's prospects so bad!!! We couldve at least had that tri-engine masterpiece to enjoy for our flights for a many more yrs. It's not that I dislike the new widebodies (I love the 777 and 330s/340s), but they just dont have the same physical appeal as a big widebody with a big fat number 2 engine lumped on its back!

R.I.P. all 3-engine widebodies.
 
Panther
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:42 pm

Copper 1 is truly poetic, how about BWIAs -500 in the New Colors, I lose my senses when I see it.
 
TransatGuy
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:55 pm

Working in YYZ and seeing BWIA's flts, i havent seen their L10 in a very long time, thier now using a 737-600, i think, not too sure tho....its sad not to see that L10 =(
 
trintocan
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 2:17 pm

The L-1011 is indeed a great aeroplane, both in looks and in passenger comfort. 2 weeks ago I rode in one of BWIA's refurbished L-1011-500's from GEO to POS. I had flown on BWee's TriStars before but was I in for a surprise when I boarded the plane! The entire interior had been redone, the seats reupholstered and the atmosphere inside was really great. As we lifted off from GEO I could feel the power of the jetliner as it eased its way upwards ever so smoothly. The flight lasted just under one hour and was really a great ride. Yes, those TriStars of BWee's not only look great but continue to fly very well and have indeed served BWee well for 20 years. Panther, I certainly agree with you!

Alas, BWee has put the -500s up for sale and is considering replacing them with 767s. TransatGuy, BWIA no longer uses TriStars to YYZ except during peak periods (summer, Christmas); at other times they use the MD83s and now the 738s. The TriStars mainly fly to JFK and LHR these days.

 
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copper1
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 10:08 pm

Glad to see there are a few fans of the wide body three's around. I forgot to mention in my earlier post that my favourite paint scheme for the L 1011 was when Air Canada brought them out of retirement and flew them for a short time in their current colours. On a bright clear day it looked like the paint scheme was designed specifically for the L 1011.

I have a couple photos in this colour scheme but I have no way to post them to share with the rest of you. If anyone out there has a photo and a way of posting it pls. share this beauty with thoses unfortunates who did not get a chance to see this grand airliner in a gorgeous colour scheme.

Copper1
 
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RE: Your Toughts..L-1011TS

Wed Jun 14, 2000 10:46 pm

Yes, it´s really cool!
Here is another great sheme:

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Photo © Alexander Jonsson

Joystick for flightsim. Yokes for real planes.
 
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For Copper1

Wed Jun 14, 2000 11:01 pm

I also like that AC green/white on the L1011's, although I rather liked the L-1011-500's in the old AC colours too:


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HARTSFIELD
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L-1011

Thu Jun 15, 2000 1:19 am

The Lockheed L-1011 TriStar is the best aircraft ever built!!!! I have flown on it 9 times, 8 with Delta, and 1 with Eastern. I will miss the smokey start up, and the powerful takeoffs!!!

L-1011!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
L-1011Alpha
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That's The Spirit...BWIA L10 Photos

Thu Jun 15, 2000 3:47 am

Yeah!!!   
That's the spirit people!!
Here anothers beautifuls photos.these are
BWIA L-1011's........



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Awesome uh??!!!
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classic707
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RE: That's The Spirit...BWIA L10 Photos

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:00 am

I love the Delta TrStars best and here is why,

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Eastern is also very nice,

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and this is a true classic!

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It is too bad that this is now becoming the fate of many.  

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fanofjets
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RE: Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Thu Jun 15, 2000 7:03 am

I, too, love the TriStar. Check out the pix of the new Yes scheme. Let's hope this airline stays in business for a good while and holds onto this wonderful bird.
The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
 
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RE: Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Thu Jun 15, 2000 7:25 am

The TriStar is by far the most graceful jet ever built. Not to mention a tremendous workhorse and great performer for its operators. I guess all the rumors of the TriStar refit program is all just a hoax, as I have not heard anything or seen anything from Lockheed Martin and Delta is definitely not keeping any of theirs on for cargo ops. At least nothing official has been said about this rumor.

Long live the TriStar! And I think that it will live on, the later build examples from the late 70s and early-mid 80s are not yet old aircraft in the big picture. They will also be very low priced widebody a/c for charter operators to aquire.
 
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RE: Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Thu Jun 15, 2000 8:05 am

I hope that BWIA replacesn those L10-11's with Airbus A330-200's instead of the 767. The latest article I read on the BWIA L10-11 replacement is that they are also considering the A330/A340....
 
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RE: Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:17 am

What I will remember most about the L-1011 is; it was the first widebody jet I ever flew on. In May 1999, I flew on a Delta L-1011 from MCO to ATL and the flight was terrific!!! Those 3 RR RB211s had alot of power on takeoff and they were smooth quiet running engines. Too bad Lockheed didn't develop more advanced models with FBW after the 500 series with engines from P&W and GE to attract more customers, it would have stayed in production maybe to this day.
 
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RE: Your Thoughts..L-1011TS

Thu Jun 15, 2000 1:15 pm

It is a good aircraft,I never been in one But I wish I could..Someday I will,its one of my favorite a/c too.

each time I see one passing above my house I stop my sight in the airplane. 
LONG LIVE THE TS!!!!!!
 
L-1011Alpha
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HISTORY..L-1011TS

Fri Jun 16, 2000 3:29 am

Here's the history:

The Lockheed TriStar's origin lies in a 1966 American Airlines specification for a short to medium-range, large-capacity transport. Lockheed and Douglas both designed an aircraft to meet the specifications. The result was two very similar aircraft. American decided to buy the DC-10. Lockheed received launch orders from TWA (33 orders/11 options) and Eastern (25 orders/25 options) on March 29, 1968 and production of the first L-1011 was started.

The engine of choice was the Rolls-Royce RB.211. The design, development and production costs for this new engine led Rolls-Royce to declare bankruptcy in Februay, 1971. Rolls-Royce's bankruptcy was a tremendous setback for the L-1011 program and one that it never recovered from.

Despite Rolls-Royce's financial problems, development of the TriStar continued and on November 17, 1970, Ship One (193A-1001) made the first flight with production RB.211-22 engines producing 42,000 pounds of thrust.

The L-1011-1 received FAA certification on April 14, 1972 and on April 26 the first revenue flight of the TriStar was made by Eastern Airlines. TWA followed Eastern and made their first TriStar flight on June 25, 1972 (LAX-STL-LAX).

The longer-range L-1011-200 was certificated on April 26, 1977 and was first flown by Saudia. The -200 is powered by the RB.211-524.

The L-1011-250, a conversion of -1 aircraft, that includes the RB.211-524B (50,000 lbs thrust) and greater fuel capacity entered service with Delta Air Lines in 1986.

The initial version of the inter-continental L-1011-500 entered service with British Airways on May 7, 1979. Pan Am introduced the extended wing and Active Control Surface L-1011-500 the following year.

Demand for the L-1011 did not meet market projections and Lockheed halted production of the TriStar in 1984. A total of 250 airplanes were built.
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mlsrar
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RE: HISTORY..L-1011TS

Fri Jun 16, 2000 4:00 am

Copper1, nice analogy. I've gotta agree with you on the TS and 10 being classics never to be duplicated again. Thankfully, living in MKE, I enjoy coming home on the Sunday night service from MSP to MKE on a D10-40. Such a smooth-riding, powerful and exceptional aircraft. I've been the only person on this forum defending Northwest and their DC-10 fleet. Also in MKE, we get Sun Country's D10-15s, and Occasionally, ATA runs a MKE-RSW charter with their L1011s. My first experience in a tristar was at age 2 from NRT-HNL-SFO on Pan Am. Second, at age 8 from SAN-HNL, and most recently 4 years ago from ORD-SNN-ORD. Great, smooth flights. I get to enjoy the -10 on a weekly basis, but I never tire of it
Long live the king and queen of the skies!
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L-1011Alpha
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May 27, 1985 - Runway Overrun<incident>

Fri Jun 16, 2000 2:21 pm

HERES'S A L-1011 INCIDENT
BRITISH AIRWAYS

Landing at Leeds/Bradford on May 27th 1985. The aircraft landed long and fast on an already marginal (7400 ft) & wet runway 14 and overran. 1102 came to rest at the end of a steep embankment. The nose gear strut was broken off.

The only thing I know about this accident is what I read above and what I can see in the picture. Why are the thrust reversers stowed?

Additional Information:AW&ST Oct 12,1987 page 52 -- Article concerning the British Airways runway overrun accident pictured in the Not So Great Moments page. Possible problems concerning braking certification by British Civil Aviation authorities.

Additional Unofficial Information:
1) The runway is crowned with the middle being significantly higher than the ends.
2) The airport and runway in question was being transitioned from VAPI to PAPI approach lighting system. There was apparently some confusion on the pilot of the accident aircraft and the technicians that installed the lighting system.
3) The lighting system was installed incorrectly. They were supposed to compensate for the crown.

THATS ONE OF VARIOUS OF THE L-1011 INCIDENTS....
BUT,WHATEVER
LONG LIVE TRISTAR!!!!!
"For Us, Sky is not the limit.. Its Ground" / L-1011Alpha.

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