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Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Wed Jun 14, 2000 7:44 pm

Hey everyone,
What do you all think of the new new colors on Delta's MD-88? I think this plane looks very nice in these colors.

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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Wed Jun 14, 2000 8:09 pm

I think the previous new colors looked good and this new one is just as nice.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Wed Jun 14, 2000 8:20 pm

Although not as nice as the previous one, I'm getting used to it. It looks pretty okay. I'd still like to see the cheatline on the previous paint together with this one...
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Wed Jun 14, 2000 8:20 pm

I just saw it, and the first thing I thought was it looks like crap. Maybe it's cause I just woke up, who knows. But I think it's ugly.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Wed Jun 14, 2000 11:55 pm

I think it looks good, much better than that ugly interim piece of sh$t that they had. I think the original is still classy, but the new one'd be all right if they added some kind of cheatline, preferably dark blue. I like the tail.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 12:16 am

As someone who generally doesn't like Delta or their livery problems, I
actually find this pretty attractive, clean and crisp. The tail looks great.
I just hope they manage to keep that all white fuselage clean.

I like the Varig, PIA, Northwest, Biman Bangladesh in the background.
Very eclectic mix of airlines there!

Chalk one up for Delta Air Lines!!


RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 12:32 am

I still think it's bad. It's just sooooooooooooo plain and imagination at all. White must be on sale, again and again and again. I guess cheap is what they were going for and cheap it is.

Sorry...I just don't like it.  
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 3:53 am

I used to think it looked like crap but the more i look at it, the more i like it, I still think the "old new" scheme is one of the best i have ever seen-on any airplane, i say go back to the old new scheme.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:03 am

Saw the real thing at ORD along with the new 757 and they look OK.

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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:13 am

Hey DeltAirlines, I sent you an e-mail. Did you receive it???
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:18 am

I liked the old old Delta Livery. Those were the greatest. The old new ones aren't much of a change from the old old ones, so i never really liked them.

The new ones look much better. I can't wait to see them here in Montreal!!!
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:30 am

I don't think the new graphics on the tail are conducive to the MD-series tail structure (i.e. the stabilizer wing). I think the new design looks better on the 777's, 767's, etc., because the idea of the new design was to evoke a sense of "flow" and "fluidity" and warm touchy-feely "we're a friendly, responsive airline" kind of feelings. The stabilizer wing visually prevents that on this aircraft.

I still think they should've put the redesigned widget on the tail. It would immediately visually identify the plane as Delta's, and create a stronger brand tie in with the tri-colored Aeroflot motif on the tail and Delta's identity.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 6:54 am

The tail looks great. Looking at it more closely, it resembles a stylised widget. However, Delta ought to paint the rest of their planes' fuselages. It looks like they forgot to finish the job.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 7:09 am

Its nice but a cheatline would top it off. One concern that has already been mentioned is the white fusealge, it gets dingy looking really fast. Take a look at Alaska Airlines 737-200s/400s, they are beige from the middle of the wing back, because of thrust reversing I suppose, they look terrible! And on MD-80s the APU outlet always leaves a big black streak, I know its not a big deal but to some joe-idiot, it looks like there has been a fire!

So, I guess the MD-88s will be around at least till another heavy-check eh? They should have at least one Tri-Star in the new scheme, like they do on the website!
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 12:14 pm

Personally I liked the old new scheme better, but it was hard to improve on the classic widget scheme first introduced in 1960 on the DC-8s. but the new new scheme looked "OK" on the 777 and 757 that they painted them on, mostly b/c the larger aircraft better show it off. But it just does not look right on the MD-88... especially with that large bare expanse of white. Why can't they be creative and use color???
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RE: Deltaflot's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:02 pm

I am completely mystified by DL's latest livery. It's perfectly nice and functional, but they had already got themselves one of those (the "old new" one) which everyone liked AND it looked a little different to everyone else (ie, it had a cheatline). The classic livery (post 1960) was desperately in need of updating but having done it once I don't see the point of spending MILLIONS (literally) to do it again. And this latest scheme may be pleasant but it's soooo conventional! White body, pastel colours on the tail which say NOTHING about the airline or even which airline it is.

I don't mind the latest livery at all, but I'm very confused by the need for it. Deltaflot need to improve many aspects of their service and the money should have been spent on catering, buying new planes, or improved profits. This is so wasteful.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 9:16 pm

Cedarjet...sorry, but Delta isn't spending 'millions' on a new paint scheme. That's the beauty of painting airplanes, you can change your mind at any time and the only additional cost is to pay the designer for a new scheme.

Delta has three (I think) paint lines going all the time at Hartsfield. With over 600 airplanes, DAL finishes painting its whole fleet about the time it has to start repainting them. Delta is not opening any new paint lines nor sending aircraft out to a contractor to be repainted. They just started using a different scheme on the planes already due to be painted.

So there are many reasons to like or not like the new livery, but it didn't cost Delta any more money than they were already spending on paint.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Thu Jun 15, 2000 10:11 pm

Another cheap, bare-nacked, paint scheme with a lost identity!
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Fri Jun 16, 2000 12:15 am

I personally dislike Delta's new livery. I prefer the one immediately prior to this one...the navy blue tail with just a tiny red stripe on the edge. However, the new rounded triangle design is by far better than the original.
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RE: Seasonedflyer

Fri Jun 16, 2000 3:05 am

There is another cost to a new scheme other than just paying the designers. The paint isn't merely applied -- a template for each aircraft needs to be created taking into account the planes dimensions, where exactly the titles are to be placed, etc. This ensures the paint gets put on correctly and in a uniform fashion. I don't know what it costs to make these templates, but it's got to cost something.

Also, paint costs money. If colors change, then an airline has to buy new paint as well (although not in Delta's case as they kept the colors).
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Fri Jun 16, 2000 8:15 am

I like Delta's new livery. I just saw the MD-88 in Atlanta, and I think that it looks great.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Fri Jun 16, 2000 10:47 am

Honestly...I don't see what's to like about the scheme other than its sheer starkness. I liked the "delta" Delta livery the best, followed by the last generation livery.
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Sat Jun 17, 2000 6:29 am

as a true delta fan i have to admit that i don't like
their new livery at all.
the new old painting i didn't agree with also, but
i've got used to it.
my question is why delta doesn't show their logo
or at least their letters on the tail?
They loved to fly and it showed..
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Sat Jun 17, 2000 7:39 am

I suppose the more I see the new livery the more I think that these folks who designed it are trying to secretly make all airlines look exactly the same. They should have paid me to come up with a new scheme- at least mine would still have been recognized as Delta. Its the only US airline that has a name that actually means something and the widget is soooooo recognizeable- why reduce it down so much? United did the same thing with their puzzeling latest scheme which took the stylized U and shrunk it down to a fraction of its former self.

I loved the old livery and the new-old one was a beauty, a true update of the classic DELTA scheme. This new one is just like every other European carrier. Anybody see a Japan Air System plane? I saw a 777-200 in Everett with the JAS livery- wow, what a looker that is!

Bring back the cheatline!!!
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RE: Delta's New New C/s MD-88

Sat Jun 17, 2000 9:53 am

Ugly colors on an ugly plane.

They look a bi t better on a 777 but that's because the 777 tail is large enough to evoke that sense of flow.

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