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Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:36 am

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/15/libya/index.html

Now that full diplomatic relations will be restored, will any U.S carriers fly to Libya? Is there any chance that their national airline will order new aircraft and resume services to the U.S ???
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:40 am

Good chance that Libyan Arab will fly to the US but I do not see a US major going there. None of them serves Algeria and there is oil traffic as well.

They need new or second hand aircraft badly, my guess is that Airbus gets the preference.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:41 am

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Seeing as how their short and long haul fleet is made up of Airbus, will they buy a fleet of A330's or wait for the A350 ???

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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:44 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
Good chance that Libyan Arab will fly to the US but I do not see a US major going there.

There are several U.S carriers such as World Airways that fly regularly into Iraq. Perhaps there will be a great demand now as U.S businesses invest money into Libya........
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:52 am

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 3):

There are several U.S carriers such as World Airways that fly regularly into Iraq. Perhaps there will be a great demand now as U.S businesses invest money into Libya........

Yes, I have seen them here at FRA until the AB closed last year. But the business World and others are flying into Iraq is not the same as the potential Libyan business. Because Col. Ghaddafi got the message, there are now Diplomatic relations and the traffic potential is a lot less than that to Iraq.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 12:57 am

What about potential traffic from European or Russian carriers. Will Air France use their specially configured Dedicate all business class A318's on potential business or oil routes. As you can see Libya would fit right in.....


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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 2:37 am

For now, I think AF pax are routed through AMS (KL has a thrice-weekly TIP service). Other european carriers that currently serve Libya: OS, LH, MA, BA, AZ. (maybe even LX)
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 2:41 am

If any airline would start, I suspect Afriqiyah would take a bold decision to fly to the US, given their amazing expansion over the last couple of years. This airline has shown the largest growth in terms of routes recently, while Libyan Arab has somewhat been stagnant.
 
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 2:54 am

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 5):
Will Air France use their specially configured Dedicate all business class A318's on potential business or oil routes. As you can see Libya would fit right in.....

Hmm pretty old map ?!?
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Africa
There's also: Nouakchott, N�Djamena and Riyadh
Doha and Kuwait aren't sereved anymore by AF only by KL.

p.s. it's a A319LR, not A318.

Quoting AJO (Reply 6):
Other european carriers that currently serve Libya: OS, LH, MA, BA, AZ. (maybe even LX)

yes, LX do serve TIP, and used to fly to BEN (Benghazi - Benina), but they did closed the destination, even as they were the only Star Alliance airline flying to BEN.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:08 am

I imagine all that will happen is codeshares - e.g. UA codesharing on LH flights, AA codesharing on BA flights etc
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:13 am

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2):
Seeing as how their short and long haul fleet is made up of Airbus, will they buy a fleet of A330's or wait for the A350 ???

There were noises about a year ago that Libya was interested in 777s; partially because they were genuinely interested in them, and partially as political reciprocity.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:40 am

I definetly do not see any US carrier, at least the legacies, flying to Libya for a long time. US carriers have basically no presence in the Middle East/Africa except for TLV.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:42 am

Maybe AirTran will start service to Libya  Big grin
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:45 am

I'd bet on just code-shares...UA /USon LH through FRA, DL on AZ through MXP/FCO, CO/NW on KL through AMS, AA on BA through LHR would be the possibilities.

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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:47 am

Quoting AJO (Reply 6):
urrently serve Libya: OS, LH, MA, BA, AZ. (maybe even LX)

I think, MA doesn't serve anymore TIP, maybe only as a summer charter destination...
 
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:48 am

No way will a US carrier do Libya. Truthfully, the restoration of diplomatic relations doesn't mean much, the US has never had a problem buying oil from it's "enemies" - in the 90s, 20% of oil imported by the US was from Iraq. And they're buying plenty from Iran right now. It doesn't require 200 seats a day to an oil producing nation to buy it's oil, just the occasional Falcon 20 or Gulfstream IV with a VP- registration. A direct airline link would only be for the benefit of Americans with Libyan heritage visiting the Old Country or Libyans emigrating to the New World, which can be easily done by flying Austrian, Alitalia or Malev.
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 3:51 am

I don't think they'll wait for the A350, maybe some A330 but I'll see them operating some B767. Besides they'll need the aircrafts right away, because there will be huge business traffic to Libya due to oil.

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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 4:36 am

I think it will take quite some time before any traffic would build beyond expanded code shares. After all, with no relations for 27 years and insignificant ex-pat communities of either nation residing in the other there isnt much to build on at the moment. Though Im certainly no expert on either country, I would look for a much slower buildup in US-Libya than for example what we are now seeing between the US and Vietnam after the normalization of relations. Nothing against Libya at all, its just that there were much stronger prior business and family relationships with Vietnam and its still been a very gradual buildup. In any case, this is definitely something I am glad to see.
 
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RE: Who Will Now Fly To Libya?

Tue May 16, 2006 7:43 am

QR flies there as well, what ever happened to the Bouraq or whatever it was called 738 order?
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