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Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Tue May 16, 2006 11:53 pm

Could this be an ex-DL M11 going to ROW to be a freighter ?

Detailed Flight Information:
United Parcel Service Flight 9581 to Roswell, NM
(ROW-Industrial Airport)
52° F
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Airline United Parcel Service
Flight Number 9581
Departure City (Airport) Montreal, QC, Canada (YMX)
Departure Time 05/16/2006 10:11 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Roswell, NM (ROW)
Arrival Time 05/16/2006 12:21 PM
Remaining Flight Time 04:10 (planned)
Aircraft Type Boeing MD11
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Planned
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c5onknees
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 12:20 am

Yes, it is.. UPS is also buying all of World's ex-DL airplanes in some time to come.. even the one painted in the old scheme.
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 1:00 am

Are they still in DL colors, minus the "Delta"? If so will they be repainted in UPS colors or stay in DL.
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 1:08 am

Is this the bird that was repaired after the fire at ATL?
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting C5onknees (Reply 1):
UPS is also buying all of World's ex-DL airplanes in some time to come.. even the one painted in the old scheme.

Actually, 801, 803 and 804 are already owned by UPS. They are leased by UPS to World for a little more than another year. (You're basically correct; I'm being a little hypertechnical, I know.)

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 2):
Are they still in DL colors, minus the "Delta"? If so will they be repainted in UPS colors or stay in DL.

The aircraft will undergo major structural modifications, including cutting a cargo door in the side of the aircraft. They will need to be repainted, and they will be repainted to look like all the other MD11s converted to UPS freighters.

Quoting Dbba (Reply 3):
Is this the bird that was repaired after the fire at ATL?

At first, I was thinking that the answer would be "No", because when I looked the other day, the aircraft to which you refer (802DE) was still shown as being registered to the trustee for the group that owned it and leased it to DL, and I thought "Well, maybe it was in such bad shape that UPS didn't want it." That has now changed in the last few days, and it is shown as "Registration Pending" at the address of UPS in Kentucky. So UPS did indeed buy it. Right now, it only has an experimental airworthiness certificate, because of the repairs, and it has to demonstrate its airworthiness. I'm guessing that this is indeed 802, and it either has demonstrated its airworthiness or is going to do so at ROW.

[Edited 2006-05-16 20:28:35]
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 4:27 am

Ferrying the 3 ex-Delta MD-11's from Mirabel to Roswell was interesting.
The main reason is that there was a 3 engine airplane, a 2 engine airplane, and a single engine airplane. The removed engines were in the shop, but not being refurbished. So a game of musical engines resulted. With one engine being removed from the first airplane, once it got to Roswell, and shipped back to Mirabel to be placed on the second airplane. Once that airplane got to Roswell, then 2 engines had to be removed from the ones available and sent to Mirabel to get the third airplane out.  Smile
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 4:28 am

Ferrying the 3 ex-Delta MD-11's from Mirabel to Roswell was interesting.
The main reason is that there was a 3 engine airplane, a 2 engine airplane, and a single engine airplane. The removed engines were in the shop, but not being refurbished. So a game of musical engines resulted. With one engine being removed from the first airplane, once it got to Roswell, and shipped back to Mirabel to be placed on the second airplane. Once that airplane got to Roswell, then 2 engines had to be removed from the ones available and sent to Mirabel to get the third airplane out.  Smile
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 6:41 am

Mr. Roke:

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, can you confirm that the three a/c to which you refer are 806, 811 and 802? Do you know the order in which they were sent to ROS? Also, what work is being carried out at ROS, and who will be doing the freighter mod?

Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 6:49 am

The more the better as Hong Kong see's them about 4 times per day now  Smile

Will all these new aircraft be converted in Singapore like the other MD-11's? Thats how I get to see the new ones so fast as they ferry from Singapore to Hong Kong then operate out.
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 10:12 pm

Mr. Candee,
The airplanes are in Roswell just for storage and to get the proper number of engines on them before they are ferried to SASCO (Singapore - QPG) for the conversion to freighters, known as the P-F modification.
N806DE (FN 511) arrived in ROW on 3/1.
N811DE (FN 543) arrived in ROW on 3/23.
N802DE (FN 481) arrived in ROW on 4/20.
They will be there until late 2007.
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Wed May 17, 2006 10:26 pm

ROW is a better and I'm sure,cheaper place to store a plane for that long . Better climate than damp,cool and snowy Montreal.
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RE: Ex-DL MD-11 On The Move To ROW W/UPS?

Thu May 18, 2006 10:47 pm

I see on flightaware,that another is schedulded for today,but it's delayed .
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