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EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 2:25 am

According to several sources, easyJet Switzerland plans to increase it's services to/from GVA and BSL possibly already as of autumn with increasing service on existing routes and adding new destinations. easyJet mentions new destinations could be in Morocco, Croatia and Turkey.

Speculation is open!  Wink

No doubt GVA/BSL to Marrakech would do well (vacation/ethnic travel) as well as GVA/BSL to Croatia which is an increasing holiday destination. And there are so many people from Croatia living in Switzerland.
Soon they will start BSL-SAW so I guess GVA-SAW will follow. An interesting route could be BSL-Izmir...but we shall see.

easyJet Switzerland is currently employing approx. 350 people in GVA and approx. 150 in BSL. Currently 7 aircraft based in GVA and 4 based in BSL.

Any thoughts?

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 3:20 am

Just 1 or 2 thoughts.....

I cant really see GVA/SAW being launched when BSL already has it, there is the possibility that you could see either GVA or BSL launching RAK, possible expansion to Croatia too, already have Rijeka and Split maybe we could see Zagreb launched, possibly Dubrovnik in Serbia too. On a side note, the promised expansion in GLA isnt looking too good, the SXF proving route for GLA isnt doing well aparently, loads are very small, hopefully it will pick up in the next few months and we'll see what happens. If i hear anything at work with regards to BSL/GVA expansion ill be sure to post it here first.....one rumour i have heard at work is they thinking of returning to ZRH from LTN

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 3:34 am

Seeing as I live in BSL, I'm all for it obviously. Easyjet is still cheaper than flying stand-by! I just wonder if they may not be having problems in filling their planes from BSL. Their prices ex BSL have not increased in the same way they have ex GVA for example. Would be cool if they returned to ZRH but it does seem a bit far fetched after the big drama Easyjet made last time upon quiting ZRH.

One way or another, this promises to be very interesting, especially if LX does actually station those RJs in BSL!
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 4:38 am

@Knightsofmalta: I'm not sure about all the fare discussion (that we already had once  Wink). According to easyJet the base in BSL is breaking even after less than a year of operation (while others need much more time). The planes have good to very good loads. I cannot judge about profitability but if easyJet says they break even then I believe it (and since they expand services they cannot do that bad).
I actually don't think that fares from BSL are too low. A comparison with Geneva can be made but we must remember that Geneva is a well established base since several years. Remember that whenever an airline starts a route they usually start with lower fares and then increase. Most of the routes in BSL are less than a year old. As a frequent easyJet traveller I have the feeling that the fares actually DO increase. The only route that is still a little bit behind is CDG according to my knowledge (not a big surprise with 11 daily AF flights on the Basel-Paris route).

Try to find some low fares from BSL in summer. You pay 500 CHF to get a return to SAW (I have no problems to find a 689.90 CHF fare though)...

@Glenn: Thanks for your input. What i can say is that BSL and GVA do not compete each other (I think some other Swiss members can agree with that). The distance between the cities is just too large. I don't know who has told you the thing about the return on LTN-ZRH but it 100% won't happen if you ask me. easyJet has left ZRH due to high fees and ZRH airport has in the meantime increased fares again (for instance for badges, deliveries to the airport etc.)! Also I read a newspaper article with an easyJet spokesman today who explained that they are currently in talks with a lot of airports- but not with ZRH. The rumour maybe came up because easyJet still holds slots for this route (they do it since they left ZRH).

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
One way or another, this promises to be very interesting, especially if LX does actually station those RJs in BSL!

Yes but one can hope they behave cleverer than in the past. There is room for a second carrier on certian routes out of BSL. But if they just begin with a senseless "blood war" with easyJet they will lose it. What they need to offer is a product that attracts good paying passengers, therefore flight times need to be better than easyJet's. Novartis and Co. have all switched to easyJet in the meantime. And they are very happy...take the AMS flights from BSL for instance. There are two daily flights with Swiss but no same day return (where Novartis customers used to pay up to 1500 CHF in eco) is possible. Since no same day return is possible, they can also fly easyJet (which is cheaper)- and they do it.
What we need is a good addition to the network with ideal flight times for customers. If Swiss can provide this then they are more than welcome to return. If they want to start a stupid war against easyJet then they should stay where they are now!  Wink

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RJ100 (ready to book Marrakech and more)  Wink
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 3):
I don't know who has told you the thing about the return on LTN-ZRH but it 100% won't happen if you ask me.

Its just a rumour floating around at work at the moment, but as you say it wont happen, with easyJet doing extremly well at BSL (better than expected) it would be stupid to go back to ZRH, I believe it was the increase in landing fees that easyJet left ZRH. I wish BSL all the best with easyJet, id like to go over there one day and see how the operation is doing, I know our LTN-BSL-LTN is very popular, another rumour is that it will go 3x daily in the near future, but who knows, we'll have to wait and see!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 4):
LTN-BSL-LTN is very popular, another rumour is that it will go 3x daily in the near future

Now these rumours are what RJ100 likes! Big grin

Again, thanks for your input and thanks to you easyJet staff for the great product and work. Always feel very well aboard.
Have a nice trip up to CPH, will be cool to have a chat about this topic!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:11 am

Hey RJ100

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 1):
possibly Dubrovnik in Serbia too.

Dubrovnik's in Croatia

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 1):
On a side note, the promised expansion in GLA isnt looking too good, the SXF proving route for GLA isnt doing well aparently, loads are very small, hopefully it will pick up in the next few months and we'll see what happens.

Why is it European city destinations dont seem to work from GLA. If GLA-SXF doesnt work, perhaps EZY may consider EDI-SXF. European City Destinations seem to work far better from EDI

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 1):
one rumour i have heard at work is they thinking of returning to ZRH from LTN

Well there is a vacancy on the route now Helvetic have puulled of it but ZRH will need to have offered EZY a very good deal for them to return
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 5):
Have a nice trip up to CPH, will be cool to have a chat about this topic!

If only, i waited for staff travel to drop down on STN-CPH flights, and it well.........never dropped to an affordable price  Sad but, in the next few months, i shall be on a LTN-BSL flight!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:18 am

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 6):
Since when have you turned Russian??

Since today  Wink Mental support for a good friend of mine.

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 8):
i shall be on a LTN-BSL flight!

Too bad but let me know in case you come over here. Shall go for a drink then!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:30 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 9):
Too bad but let me know in case you come over here. Shall go for a drink then!

I shall indeed but do you really mean A drink or several drinks?
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 5:48 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 10):
I shall indeed but do you really mean A drink or several drinks?

As much as you want  Wink easyHotel by the way is located in the city center. Not too far away if someone gets problems to walk home Big grin
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 6:21 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 1):

Always thought SXF was an odd choice from GLA anyway- why they didnt focus on the proven market or include Paris is anyones guess.
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 6:21 am

We should expect some movement in terms of expansion for EZS in the next number of months.

Regarding ZRH, yes the airline and the airport parted company on pretty bad terms, but at the end of the day business is business, and if a new deal has been struck which is agreeable to both parties then a return to ZRH could be very possible indeed.
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
Easyjet is still cheaper than flying stand-by!

Absolutely true. People often don't believe me when I tell them. Plus I know there's a seat for me on the plane.

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 11:39 pm

Welcome  Wink

Couldn't resist to book some more trips on EZS, BSL to PRG and BSL to LIS in June Big grin
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 11:44 pm

Does anyone know if the Swiss bases already switched over to the A319 (from the 737s)?


If so we might be able to work out fromt he delivery schedules for the next planes whether an expansion in the Swiss operation is on the cards
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu May 18, 2006 11:48 pm

Yep, everything is A-319 in Switzerland (apart from some incoming flights). Currently 7 based in GVA and 4 based in BSL.

Maybe they will start some more night flights like BSL-SAW.
I would love to see flights to Moscow too!
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Fri May 19, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 16):
Does anyone know if the Swiss bases already switched over to the A319 (from the 737s)?

Geneva was the first A319 base for the whole easyJet network, but has had constant expansion since the A319s have been based.

There was an article published today in a Swiss newspaper interviewing the manager of easyjet switzerland. He confirmed that Geneva will see an 8th airplane this fall and that they are considering routes to Marrakesh, Croatia and Turkey from Geneva.

He has also confirmed there is no interest in flying to Zurich again.
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Fri May 19, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 14):
I've been reading these pages for months now and as from today am officially a member!

Well in that case welcome to airliners-net, infodesk!
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Fri May 19, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 1):
On a side note, the promised expansion in GLA isnt looking too good, the SXF proving route for GLA isnt doing well aparently, loads are very small, hopefully it will pick up in the next few months and we'll see what happens.

Looking at the booking system today it seems the loads are getting better and better. Already the majority of next week's inbound have less than 40 seats left and thats the same for a couple of outbounds. So hopefully the upward trend continues, especially seeing as EZY have eventually got around to doing some advertising.

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Sat May 20, 2006 5:41 am

It would be intriguing to see where in Croatia; Split, Zagreb or Dubrovnik.
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Fri May 26, 2006 10:40 pm

Just noticed a strange thing on EZY's website. They will begin flights between BSL and SAW on Monday but I cannot find fares until June 12. Are the flights fully booked until then or is there a mistake in the booking system?
Also I noticed that EZY is promoting Berlin-SAW flights... via BSL!!!  Smile

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Sat May 27, 2006 1:07 am

Oviously it was a mistake since flights are now back for sale. The first flight on Monday to istanbul has 136 pax booked so far. 90% load factor on the first flight-not bad at all!  Smile

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 12:01 am

And why not a link to BOD ?

I mean a GVA-BOD-GVA and a BSL-BOD-BSL route could be interesting...
Bordeau is a growing holiday destination as well as a bisness one. AF fly daily from BOD to GVA (I don't know BSL), but it could be an interesting competion  Smile

EZY has just arrived in BOD from London Luton, do you think there is any chance to see EZS there ?
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 12:08 am

Why no new GVA-MUC flights???
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 12:10 am

Quoting Flymunich (Reply 25):
Why no new GVA-MUC flights???

MUC is a very expensive airport to operate into
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 12:14 am

Basel-Bordeaux is currently operated by AF Régional twice daily with E-145 (just went double daily and increased from E-135 to E-145).

Bordeaux is interesting, why not? Marseille seems to be interesting as well out of Switzerland.

According to slot coordination Germany EZS had slots for GVA-MUC for this season but did not start the route. They also had slots for BSL-DUS...

I guess we see a GVA-Morocco first plus maybe something from BSL. It seems they want to expand to non-EU destinations...

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 1:13 am

And remember: Tonight easyJet will operate it's first scheduled flight to Turkey ever. EZS1143 will leave BSL with 139 passengers in about four hours at 22:20 towards Istanbul Sabiha Gökcen and will return back to it's home base at 5:30 in the morning as EZS1144.
Flights are very well booked in the coming days (around 90%) on BSL-SAW, while SAW-BSL is still a bit weaker (probably because easyJet is not a well known brand in Turkey).

 

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[Edited 2006-05-29 18:14:10]
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 28):
Tonight easyJet will operate it's first scheduled flight to Turkey ever



Quoting RJ100 (Reply 28):
Flights are very well booked in the coming days

Are they targeting turkey bound tourists heading to Istanbul for a city trip or the ethnic VFR trade ?
 
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 4:20 am

I think both but of course they will see mainly ethnic travel. The most Turkish people in Switzerland are living in Basel and Zurich- and between the two cities (add to that large Turkish populations in the Mulhouse area and Southern Germany). No wonder they have full house beginning with the first flight.
I just see that bookings are very good on the BSL-SAW flights but weaker on the return. It will get better as soon as all the people start to return or/and easyJet will be better known in Turkey.
It is also a good example how LCCs can generate "new" passengers because it doesn't seem to hurt TK since they just announced to go daily on the BSL route in summer.

This is the first intercontinental flight of easyJet (Sabiha is in Asia). I would call this a milestone in easyJet's history.

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Tue May 30, 2006 5:59 am

Topswiss1143 is on the way to the wonderful city of Istanbul  Smile
They needed approx. 45 minutes to board this flight. Probably lots of families with kids and a massive load of baggage.
Probably most of the pax are new easyJet customers. I can only imagine the boarding scenes! Big grin
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:42 pm

A little bit off topic but the easy group is now also mixing up Basel's party scene:

www.easycasino.ch

Website only in German but too funny Big grin Well done easy.  Smile
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:50 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 32):

Just... unbelievable!!! What is coming next? A cinema? A supermarket? A nightclub?  Silly

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:41 pm

Mister Vignon from easyJet Switzerland once said that easyCruise on the Rhine river would be a future idea. Big grin

But your nightclub idea is great! Instead of red lights with orange lights of course  Wink

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:50 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 34):
But your nightclub idea is great! Instead of red lights with orange lights of course

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:28 pm

easyJet Switzerland has now filled slots for the Basel-Munich route.

I know that this does not automatically mean they will start the route- but it is still most interesting!  Smile

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:43 pm

According to the slots the route could be 3x daily.  eyepopping 

Seeing the current success of the routes to Germany and Lufthansa's monopoly fares on the same route, I have no doubt it could work.

It would, however, mean that easyJet needs to base another aircraft in BSL. Not sure if they have planned something in this direction.

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:38 am

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 37):
It would, however, mean that easyJet needs to base another aircraft in BSL

There is another aircraft planned to be moved to the EZS fleet rather soon. G-EZEB will become HB-JZP. Watch this space!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:15 pm

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 38):
There is another aircraft planned to be moved to the EZS fleet rather soon. G-EZEB will become HB-JZP

Just had the chance to speak with a U2 cpt and he has confirmed me that the aircraft will be moved soon, however MUC is "highly probable" but not official yet.

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:20 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 33):
A cinema?

Already done that one!

http://www.easycinema.com/splash/Index.html
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:25 pm

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 40):
Already done that one!

God, it's an empire, not an airline anymore!  Big grin

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:29 pm

Anyway, back on topic.

A snapshot of August ex BSL for easyJet includes,

AGP, BCN, ALC, CDG, LIS, HAM, PMI, PRG, AMS, NCE, NAP, MAD

...but you didn't hear it from me!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:36 pm

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 42):
A snapshot of August ex BSL for easyJet includes,

AGP, BCN, ALC, CDG, LIS, HAM, PMI, PRG, AMS, NCE, NAP, MAD

and SAW, SXF, STN, LTN, LPL...
and probably MUC  

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:46 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
and IST

Being picky, but its SAW  Smile
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:47 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 44):
Being picky, but its SAW

You got me! I just edited it!  Big grin

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:49 pm

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
IST

Not IST, but SAW.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
SXF

...with SXF based A319 and crew.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
STN

...with STN based A319 and crew.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
LTN

...with LTN based B737 and crew.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
LPL

...with LPL based A319 and crew.

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 43):
MUC

Nope, but I can't comment on the winter schedule.
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:10 pm

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 46):
...with LPL based A319 and crew.

Being picky, with Liverpool based B-737-700 crew Big grin
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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:30 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 47):
Being picky, with Liverpool based B-737-700 crew

Nope! LPL is the next base to convert to Airbus!

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RE: EasyJet Switzerland Eyes Further Growth

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:50 pm

I think EZJ should start GVA-SKG and GVA-ATH.Also more flights from Germany to
other cities in Greece exept ATH should be added.
What do you guys think?

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