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CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 6:48 am

Continental is supposedly going to start flying 737-800 w/ Winglets on all Houston-Hawaii flights. These flights include Honolulu and Maui. Why are they doing this?
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 6:49 am

Holy crap! I thought Texas to Hawaii was an eight hour flight. Via San Diego par chance?
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 6:51 am

It might be IAH-LAX-OGG, but not IAH-HNL non-stop.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 6:53 am

I know they use the 737-800 to ANC nonstop from IAH. Wonder if it's a similar distance? I bet this is just so they can free up some of those 767s for EU this summer.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:00 am

I searched flights on the Continental website, and could not find anything stating this. The fares still show 767s.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 3):
I know they use the 737-800 to ANC nonstop from IAH. Wonder if it's a similar distance? I bet this is just so they can free up some of those 767s for EU this summer.

Maybe so, but there are alot of place you can land and get fuel. Not too many places in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:04 am

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 2):
It might be IAH-LAX-OGG, but not IAH-HNL non-stop



Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Via San Diego par chance?

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It's not possible non-stop without auxiliary fuel tanks which would take away cargo space. It's stopping somewhere, it must.

Probably direct service through one of the already mentioned places.

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:05 am

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 3):
I know they use the 737-800 to ANC nonstop from IAH. Wonder if it's a similar distance?

From To Distance
IAH-ANC 3266 mi
IAH-HNL 3904 mi

A 738 in a normal configuration cannot fly between IAH and Hawaii. That route is pushing the limits of the 757 (as it is on par with CO's longer flights to Europe).
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:08 am

No way!! It can not make that flight. What is the source?

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:12 am

I reckon it's a single flight number from Houston to any Hawaiian destination that doesn't get a nonstop from IAH, which I presume is everything bar HNL, and involves a "a change of guage" at LAX, but where this person has looked up the flight, it just shows the aircraft type for the first sector, IAH-LAX, and a 737 is entirely likely. At LA you change to a 767. In some CRSs it probably shows as 737/767 but if there isn't space or software compatibility to show two aircraft types, it'll just say 737.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:15 am

I think there might be a misunderstanding here. CO 137 is the new IAH-LAX-OGG flight, which replaced the nonstop CO 49 764 IAH-OGG. The new flight is usually a 757-200, but sometimes is scheduled as a 737 IAH-LAX then a "change of gauge" LAX-OGG on a 757. With the same flight number, it shows up in iteneraries as a 737 the whole way, when the second leg of it is actually a 757. A friend of mine was booking a reservation on this flight and asked me if it was a 737 the whole way, and I looked it up, and found it was really a 757 on the LAX OGG portion.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:25 am

Narrowbodies to HNL IMO are a joke. I am proud that Delta doesn't fly any narrowbodies to HNL.

Most airlines are now utilizing smaller aircraft to HNL than in the past.


  • American flies a mix of 757-200s and 767-300s to HNL. Both of these aircraft are smaller than the past DC-10s. IMO the A300 would make more sense for HNL.
  • United flies 757-200s, 767-300s and 777-200s to HNL. Did United once fly the DC-10 to HNL? The 752 and 763 are smaller, while the 772 is larger.
  • Northwest flies 757-300s from the west coast, but still uses DC-10s from MSP. Could there be an A330 on that route in the future?
  • Delta flies the 767-400ER, which is approximately the same size as the L-1011. Delta is one of two airlines to use an aircaft about the same size as the past.
  • Continental also flies the 767-400ER, which is approximately the size of the DC-10.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:26 am

Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS? I know they are overwater equipped, but do they meet the ETOPS requirements to even fly to Hawaii to begin with? I can't think of any 737 routes that CO has that would require ETOPS.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 11):
but sometimes is scheduled as a 737 IAH-LAX then a "change of gauge" LAX-OGG on a 757

This is exactly the case..  worried  CO 137 IAH-LAX-OGG
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:33 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS? I know they are overwater equipped, but do they meet the ETOPS requirements to even fly to Hawaii to begin with? I can't think of any 737 routes that CO has that would require ETOPS.

I don't really know either. Would some of the Micronesia flights need it out of Guam? Thats my best guess.

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:35 am

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 15):
I don't really know either. Would some of the Micronesia flights need it out of Guam? Thats my best guess.

Aren't the planes operated by Continental Micronesia part of a different fleet? I didn't think that they mixed with the mainline Continental, but I could be wrong.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:41 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS?

I'm 99% certain they're not. There is no reason for CO to go to the expense.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 17):
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS?

I'm 99% certain they're not. There is no reason for CO to go to the expense.

Ok so that would put to rest the possibility of Continental 737s in Hawaii then. But there is no solid evidence in this thread anyway.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 17):
I'm 99% certain they're not. There is no reason for CO to go to the expense.

You're 99% wrong.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 8:17 am

Continental Micronesia is a wholly owned subsidiary of Continental Airlines, and has a separate Part 121 Operating Certificate. The vast majority of the employees, except for the pilots and the very top management, are Continental Micronesia employees and not employees of Continental Airlines. On the other hand, they do have full flight benefits on CO and are integrated into the same data base for pass riders.
There are nine 737-800 aircraft on the CMI certificate and they are sub-leased from Continental Airlines. All of these aircraft are ETOPS certified, as several routes require ETOPS operations. GUM-HKG-GUM, GUM-DPS-GUM, GUM-CNS-GUM, HNL-MAJ-HNL, HNL-KWA-HNL are all ETOPS flights. 737 flights between Guam and Japan were operated as ETOPS flights untiil CMI received permission from the Japanese government to use Iwo Jima as an emergency airport.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 8:50 am

It is supposed to connect in LAX.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 8:53 am

My source is a local aviation magazine called flightline weekly. This is a magazine but i'm not sure if it is totally correct.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 9:14 am

Quoting ContinentalGuy (Reply 22):
My source is a local aviation magazine called flightline weekly. This is a magazine but i'm not sure if it is totally correct.

I'm sure this information is incorrect--I'd be very very surprised if it was factual. They would not have 2 daily 764s if they planned on stopping these flights and replacing them with 738s, they would reduce the schedule before they do this--Besides they already fly from IAH to LAX and connect onto HNL anyways. Flight 1 also is the route that connects IAH to GUM so I'd doubt this one would leave. This information makes no logical sense that I can see.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 9:20 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
Narrowbodies to HNL IMO are a joke. I

Guess you're too young to remember the flying boats, 707, DC-6, DC-7, DC-8 and the early Boeing props...

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
Did United once fly the DC-10 to HNL

Also the 747..Pan Am also used the L-1011 later sold to United.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16):
Aren't the planes operated by Continental Micronesia part of a different fleet? I didn't think that they mixed with the mainline Continental, but I could be wrong.

Yes, they are mixed. The HNL-GUM flight uses both 767-400 configurations. 5 days a week, the route is flown by the CMI configured 767-400 (20 BF seats) and the other two days are flown by the normally CO configured 35 BF seat 767-400. I've also been on the HNL-IAH flight and the FAs were not from CMI, but were on a CMI configured 767-400.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:49 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
Did United once fly the DC-10 to HNL?

Lots of them . . . I flew ORD-HNL on a UA DC-10 in 1998.

CO also flew DC-10s IAH-HNL . . . been there done that also.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:52 am

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 14):
737 IAHLAX, 757 LAXOGG.

Must be a summer change. I flew 137 IAH-LAX on Tuesday and it was a 752 with 24F. They still changed planes though, to a different 757 on to Maui. This was announced multiple times, and it was at gate 60. We arrived gate 64, and the OGG leg 757 was waiting at 60 for the pax.

I don't see why they wouldn't change the whole route to 738 if needed during the summer, unless they are trying to make Hawaii legs all BF cabins, since the upgrades awards cost more and they don't do elite upgrades at all.

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 17):
I'm 99% certain they're not. There is no reason for CO to go to the expense.

I believe the mid-cabin lav versions are etops, the others aren't, but don't quote me. But CO has ETOPS 737s.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 15):



Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 17):

Yes, CO's 738's are ETOPS. So are some of the 739's, I believe, and many, if not all of the 73G's. Trust me, I see "ETOPS" painted painted on the front wheel-well doors.  Smile
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 12:20 pm

Goodness I nearly had a heart attack when I read the thread title! I absolutely love those 764's. I couldn't fathom taking a 738 nonstop from my hometown to IAH, which is a 7-8 hour journey! But of course as others have confirmed a 738 is not capable of doing this, so hoorah! However, I guess this means the end of non-stops between OGG and IAH. Is this seasonal or permanent?

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
Narrowbodies to HNL IMO are a joke. I am proud that Delta doesn't fly any narrowbodies to HNL

Likewise I am proud that my favorite carrier CO uses the very comfortable, gorgeous 764 to Hawaii. I think it really is a shame that the others are using narrowbodies. I remember not too long ago, pre-9/11 I used to spend hours watching UA's, NW's, CO's, and AA's planes come in and out from gates 6-22 at HNL, and they were ALL widebodies. UA had lots of DC-10's and occasionally a 744, NW had a couple of DC-10's and also occasionally a 744, CO had their DC-10's, and AA had DC-10's and 763's. Now UA never sends 744s, with the DC-10 replaced by 763's and sometimes 772. NW has a lot more 757's than DC-10's, and AA has 763's and 757's. Needless to say I miss the DC-10  Sad As for DL...let's just say I don't hang around the Ewa side as much  Smile
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 12:25 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 28):
Trust me, I see "ETOPS" painted painted on the front wheel-well doors.

I've seen it too, on both the NG 737s and 752s. On a flight back in March on HP from AUS-PHX we were parked next to an ETOPS CO 752.

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 12:27 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS? I know they are overwater equipped, but do they meet the ETOPS requirements to even fly to Hawaii to begin with? I can't think of any 737 routes that CO has that would require ETOPS.

Yes they are ETOPS...I flew on one recently....

 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 1:49 pm

GUM to DPS was bad enough. I'd never fly them nonstop to HNL on the 738 no matter how deep I was in their ff program

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 1:50 pm

ya i don't think a 738/winglets can even fly that far!!!
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 2:11 pm

The only 737 that could fly the route, as far as I know, is the 737-700ER, which no one flies yet.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 2:35 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 27):
I believe the mid-cabin lav versions are etops, the others aren't, but don't quote me. But CO has ETOPS 737s.

Actually, all the 738s are ETOPS certified. CMI uses 738s that do not have the mid-cabin lav.
 
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Fri May 19, 2006 2:59 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 26):
Lots of them . . . I flew ORD-HNL on a UA DC-10 in 1998

I also took this flight several times. It was flight 43 outbound and 44 on the return. I miss the UA 10's over the pond.

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 3:37 pm

Does anyone know the reason of pulling the non-stop IAH-OGG? Where is this 764 rotation going? Is the new 757 flight LAX-OGG operated in a BF configuration?

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Fri May 19, 2006 3:42 pm

Quoting AQ737 (Reply 37):
Does anyone know the reason of pulling the non-stop IAH-OGG?

There was a thread on this when it happened. It had something to do with lack of cargo on the route, need for the plane in Europe because 777s were needed to India, and the desire to pick up pax LAX-OGG.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 5:28 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity, are CO's 738s ETOPS?

All of CO's 737 Next Generation fleet are ETOPS. (180 minutes)

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
I can't think of any 737 routes that CO has that would require ETOPS.

Some of the 737NG flights from EWR to the Caribbean are ETOPS.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 6:24 pm

Is this the same source that advised you that EWR-IAH will be operating with 772ERs - please stop spreading false information.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 8:40 pm

Quoting MX757 (Reply 39):
All of CO's 737 Next Generation fleet are ETOPS. (180 minutes)

Although you probably would know better than I would, I didn't think they were ETOPS to 180 minutes. I thought it was 120 minute. LAX-HNL (or OGG) would need an aircraft that is ETOPS certified for 180 minutes.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 9:54 pm

After doing some checking I found that:

B-737-700, -800, and -900 are ETOPS approved to 75 minutes only.
B-757-200 to 180 minutes
B-767-200 and -400 to 180 minutes
B-777-200 to 207 minutes

This is from the CAL Ops Specs and other company sources.

CMI's 737s might have a longer authorization.
 
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Fri May 19, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting Nyskymasters (Reply 42):
After doing some checking I found that:

B-737-700, -800, and -900 are ETOPS approved to 75 minutes only.
B-757-200 to 180 minutes
B-767-200 and -400 to 180 minutes
B-777-200 to 207 minutes

This is from the CAL Ops Specs and other company sources.

CMI's 737s might have a longer authorization.

Interesting info.....thanks for doing the research.

The stats make sense, CO has absolutely no plans to use the 737 family on transatantic routes or routes to Hawaii......case closed. CO does use a 752 on the reworked IAH-LAX-Maui service (which freed up a 767 for EUropean operations) and there is talk of a IAH-LAX-Kona service to be launched at LAX (creating a mini-Hawaii gateway op at LAX allowing pax for the EWR, CLE and IAH hubs onestop service to the islands).....but thats it.

CO needs the 764s on the Hawaiian routes in order to move lots of Cargo destined for Micronesia......there has been talk that CO was thinking about using a 753 on the LAX-HNL segment (I think that a 753 subbed on the route a few weeks ago) but, atleast for the time being, LAX-HNL is staying with the 764 since a good amount of cargo bound to Micronesia originates in the LAX-SoCal area.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
Narrowbodies to HNL IMO are a joke. I am proud that Delta doesn't fly any narrowbodies to HNL.

Narrowbodies to HNL make perfect sense when flying from SAN, LAX, SFO, SEA, etc. It's no different than flying them on a SEA-MIA, LAX-PHL, or SAN-BOS route.
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Fri May 19, 2006 10:13 pm

Quoting Ssides (Reply 44):

Narrowbodies to HNL make perfect sense when flying from SAN, LAX, SFO, SEA, etc. It's no different than flying them on a SEA-MIA, LAX-PHL, or SAN-BOS route.

As I mentioned above, the only additional consideration on Mainland-Hawaii flights is cargo......lots of stuff goes to/from Hawaii via air cargo, thus wideboby service can be an advantage on the routes. Other than that, the 757 or 737NG have no problem with WestCoast - Hawaii routes.
 
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:16 pm

Doesn't Aloha use 737's from Hawaii to the mainland?
 
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Fri May 19, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting Nyskymasters (Reply 42):
After doing some checking I found that:

B-737-700, -800, and -900 are ETOPS approved to 75 minutes only.

Thanks for that information. ETOPS 75 isn't much, and definitely not enough to get anywhere near Hawaii.

Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 46):
Doesn't Aloha use 737's from Hawaii to the mainland?

Yes Aloha flies 73Gs with winglets to all over the west coast. The 737NGs can easily operate those routes. However the plane cannot go the extra distance to IAH.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Tsnamm (Reply 46):
Doesn't Aloha use 737's from Hawaii to the mainland?

TZ and AQ both use 737 variants on this route.

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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:47 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 43):
CO does use a 752 on the reworked IAH-LAX-Maui service (which freed up a 767 for EUropean operations) and there is talk of a IAH-LAX-Kona service to be launched at LAX (creating a mini-Hawaii gateway op at LAX allowing pax for the EWR, CLE and IAH hubs onestop service to the islands).....but thats it.

Believe me, I love the 764 service to HNL on CO but I would gladly one stop on a narrowbody to get to KOA and LIH directly from a west coast gateway. While LAX certainly has its share of Hawaii flights on a number of different carriers, it makes sense to make it a minihub given the current facilities, number of flights from the 3 hubs, and lack of weather delays.

Being that CLE is my home airport, I would certainly love a direct flight to Hawaii, even if it was on a 73G, 738, 752 or 753.
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RE: CO To Use B737-800 On IAH-Hawaii!

Fri May 19, 2006 11:56 pm

This is crazy houston is a major hub for CO so why on earth try with a 737 to reach HNL or OGG... stoping in LAX doesn't make any sense... summer maybe but high season ??? 764 is the way to go

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