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Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sat May 20, 2006 3:00 am

Courtesy: WKBN-TV

Allegiant Air May Bring Better Days To Youngstown Airport

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http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/2830196.html
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sat May 20, 2006 3:20 am

I am happy the YNG is getting this flight then. Youngstown is where my family has our "get away" place so we can cool off from the hot california central valley. Maybe I can try to work something out to fly Allegiant the whole way  Smile
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sat May 20, 2006 11:13 pm

Courtesy: WKBN-TV

Allegiant Air Takes Flight In The Valley

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http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/2836696.html?skipthumb=Y
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sat May 20, 2006 11:18 pm

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 12:50 am

Here is a couple of more.

A couple of quotes from this article.
http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/286134548571531.php
"Tyri Squyres, Allegiant's director of corporate communications, said the flight on the 150-passenger McDonnell Douglas plane had 148 passengers. The company has booked 86 percent of the seats on the remaining flights in May, 60 percent of seats on its flights in June, and 53 percent in July, she said.
It will be interesting to see what happens after the summer travel season ends.

I also like this quote in this article,
" Tom Martin, a sales representative for Rubenstein Associates of Liberty, which is marketing the Allegiant flights, said Pittsburgh International Airport can market itself in the Youngstown-Warren area all it wants to with amenities such as a shopping mall.

"But you don't go to the airport to buy a sports coat. They have a food court, but we have a food court, too. It's called Belmont Avenue," he said.’’

Been years since I've been in the area including driving on Belmont but that is an interesting way to put it.

And another article with similiar info.
http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/articles.asp?articleID=4090
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 2:59 am

I wouldn't go to YNG, this is just how I feel. WN, FL, and US are just a cheap as Allegiant and these carriers fly PIT-MCO.

I hope this doesn't pull to many people from PIT. I doubt it will. Maybe US or WN can fight them off. What do you guys think?
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:01 am

The only reason to discredit an airport like PIT is when you know the airport you are tasked to market can't hold a candle against the bigger competitor. Pure hyperbolic marketing nonsense. I hope the G4 flights do well.

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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
I wouldn't go to YNG, this is just how I feel. WN, FL, and US are just a cheap as Allegiant and these carriers fly PIT-MCO.

I hope this doesn't pull to many people from PIT. I doubt it will. Maybe US or WN can fight them off. What do you guys think?

You have summed it up nicely and this is what G4 is up against, remember the market is use to driving to get flights to airports such as PIT, CAK, CMH and CLE.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:15 am

I look forward to YNG getting some traffic again. I'd personally like to see em get seom EAS from New York, DC, or CVG. Would be nice!

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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting Jjbiv (Reply 6):
The only reason to discredit an airport like PIT is when you know the airport you are tasked to market can't hold a candle against the bigger competitor. Pure hyperbolic marketing nonsense. I hope the G4 flights do well.

I am not sure I understand you completely, what is it you are hinting at?

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 7):
You have summed it up nicely and this is what G4 is up against, remember the market is use to driving to get flights to airports such as PIT, CAK, CMH and CLE.

Thanks! I just don't think YNG is going anywhere. I believe this is going to be a short lived thing. I may be wrong though.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:29 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 9):
Thanks! I just don't think YNG is going anywhere. I believe this is going to be a short lived thing. I may be wrong though.

Well after the busy Summer travel season we will know! I hope for the best though not to sure of the outcome on this venture.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 7):
You have summed it up nicely and this is what G4 is up against, remember the market is use to driving to get flights to airports such as PIT, CAK, CMH and CLE.

In most G4 markets that is what they are up against.

BLI and FNL had no service so people were driving to SEA and DEN respectively. BLI is now the only outstation with 6 day a week service to LAS.

Rockford, Worcester, and many others have proven to work even though passengers could drive to another airport. I don't know what to think about YNG yet that is what makes this another interesting one to watch.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 3:47 am

When will G4 announce some more markets?
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 4:10 am

I think G4 will announce new cities after the IPO, and when they announce what new aircraft they are going to get. Either 737's or A319. I think they are leaning towards Boeing, but it depends on when they get take delivery or price.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 4:34 am

Quoting Sunking737 (Reply 13):
I think G4 will announce new cities after the IPO, and when they announce what new aircraft they are going to get.

I believe there are a couple of additional Mad Dogs joining the fleet in the fall, so there may be some city announcements closer to that. I think they will also look at reservations after the summer and possibly, possibly, move some aircraft around by changing some frequencies.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Sun May 21, 2006 10:25 am

I wasn't aware they were doing an IPO. With new aircraft, I hope they will start PIE-LAS service. PIE's management just conducted a survey to which over 4,000 passengers responded and the #1 desired destination (one out of every three respondents picked it as #1) was LAS. The only nonstops between nearby TPA and LAS are on WN and US but the times aren't very convenient.

It would also be nice to get another US airline in there besides USA3000. In the last couple years they've been hit pretty hard, losing Southeast, ATA, Lehigh Valley Air, Boston-Maine(Pan Am) and recently Hooters. They've got a market of one million residents in Pinellas County who would prefer to not cross the bridge into ever-growing TPA.
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Mon May 22, 2006 2:44 am

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 15):
I wasn't aware they were doing an IPO.

In case you want to catch up on this week's Allegiant IPO news.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2773829
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Mon May 22, 2006 4:01 am

Allegiant only offers flts on certain days... WN, FL , US all offer daily flts to MCO. so if you miss the G4 flt. you will not be able to fly stand-by on next flt. you are driving to another airport. and purchasing a new ticket.
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Mon May 22, 2006 6:04 am

Courtesy: The Tribune Chronicle

Allegiant Sales Sluggish

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/articles.asp?articleID=4145
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Mon May 22, 2006 6:51 am

This quote is encouraging

Quote:
Squyers said Allegiant is not concerned at this time about the response from the area to its Orlando-only flights. Her airline, she said, has a track record of turning around markets scarred from poor service in the past.

Hopefully the service will be a success, however the article states it may be suspended in September
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Mon May 22, 2006 7:15 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 19):
however the article states it may be suspended in September

Actually, it will be suspended in Sept and I think a couple of weeks in Oct. Most markets will be reduced during this time.
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 8:06 am

Courtesy: The Business Journal

Allegiant Flight Draws Passengers from Beyond Valley

http://www.business-journal.com/AllegiantFirstFlight.asp
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 9:04 am

Congrat to YNG it always good to see small communities grow & benefit from the airline industry.
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 12:49 pm

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 5):
I hope this doesn't pull to many people from PIT. I doubt it will. Maybe US or WN can fight them off. What do you guys think?

I love how folks on here hope an airline offering an alternative service to a market FAILS. I mean, in this case, just how many people are you thinking they're going to grab from PIT? Is PIT-LAS so precarious of a market that the thought of a couple flights a week out of YNG is that much of a threat?

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 7):
remember the market is use to driving to get flights to airports such as PIT, CAK, CMH and CLE.

I thought WN was the carrier that served "secondary" airports, relieving people of the stranglehold of the majors. How the days have changed.

Again, why so negative on G4/YNG? If YNG shouldn't have service, maybe there are a few other markets that should drive as well? Like CAK (drive to CLE), CMH (drive to DAY), BWI (drive to IAD), ISP (drive to JFK), etc.

Maybe I'm just grumpy, but it seems like sour grapes to get negative towards these tiny airlines that are just trying to make a buck serving markets no one else will. If I lived in BLI, YNG, etc. I'd be thankful to have a nonstop alternative once in a while.

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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 12:55 pm

Who do you think is the "legacy" carrier that's interested in YNG?
 
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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 12:56 pm

Quoting WN57787 (Reply 17):
Allegiant only offers flts on certain days... WN, FL , US all offer daily flts to MCO. so if you miss the G4 flt. you will not be able to fly stand-by on next flt. you are driving to another airport. and purchasing a new ticket.

Again, I'm reminded of the legacy mantra of "WN is bad. You must stop in three places and change planes twice just to get from A to B. And if you get stuck in one of those midpoints and miss a connection, you may be there a while." It's funny to see the WN crowd so eager to lump themselves in with the old guard.

I think it's the WN folks who are throwing me off. I guess after so many years of being the guy to get picked on, it's nice to be able to look down your nose at the newer "little guys".

Again, maybe I'm having a Seattle caffeine imbalance, but I would think on this forum there would be a little more enthusiasm for a carrier that is doing it's thing - albeit differently than the template that has been drawn by us armchair you-know-who's.

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RE: Allegiant Lifts Off From YNG To SFB Starting Today

Tue May 23, 2006 1:10 pm

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 24):
Who do you think is the "legacy" carrier that's interested in YNG?

The 2 leading rumors are UAX to IAD or DLConn to CVG.
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